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A.k said:my friend came to me with a smile on his face...i ended up shouting at him, he's a complete asshole.
jondyfun said:What the ****?
he doesn't seem to like the country he lives in, england offers jobs and so much more which he woudn't be able have in his country and doesn't seem to apreciate it. he also involves iraqi people being killed by amercans and the war, the fact is 8000 iraqi people have been killed by terrorists in 6 months.Feath said:Why did he?
A.k said:he doesn't seem to like the country he lives in, england offers jobs and so much more which he woudn't be able have in his country and doesn't seem to apreciate it. he also involves iraqi people being killed by amercans and the war, the fact is 8000 iraqi people have been killed by terrorists in 6 months.
Pulling our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan.in their speeches and that following what happened in London, Tony and George both said something along the lines of 'we will never give in to terrorists'. But what exactly would happen if we did 'give in'? And what would 'giving in' involve?
Jangle said:But what exactly would happen if we did 'give in'? And what would 'giving in' involve?
Lets not turn this in to politics right now.seinfeldrules said:Pulling our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan.
Hapless said:Well, I would assume the ultimate "giving in" would result in all of us becoming Muslim, whether we like it or not. That is Al Qaeda's ultimate goal.
Did you even read his post? He asked the question, I gave an entirely unopinionated answer.Lets not turn this in to politics right now.
if it's gonna turn into politics anywhere, at least its in the right forum hereNo Limit said:Lets not turn this in to politics right now.
Your entire post was opinionated.seinfeldrules said:Did you even read his post? He asked the question, I gave an entirely unopinionated answer.
But what exactly would happen if we did 'give in'? And what would 'giving in' involve?
I'm not commenting on how I feel on it, just what the facts are.A previously unknown group, "Secret Group of Al Qaeda's Jihad in Europe," claimed responsibility in the name of Al Qaeda for the blasts, saying they were in retaliation for Britain's involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The group claimed the attack in a Web-site posting and also warned Italy and Denmark to withdraw troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.
I wont bother as I don't want to turn this in to politics.seinfeldrules said:Sorry No Limit, I suppose that Al Qaeda merely wanted us to plant flowers and sing camp fire songs.
By the way, it was unopinionated:
I'm not commenting on how I feel on it, just what the facts are.
No Limit said:Your entire post was opinionated.
Lets not turn this in to politics right now.
I was on the underground only two stops from Kings Cross when the bombs went off.
And I've just got home after walking 3 hours through Central London. As horrible as it's all been, people here are amazing - everyone is helping everyone and making the best of a terrible situation. The pubs are overflowing - people are gathering together and standing tall. Yesterday they may have won the Olympics, and I was in Trafalgar Square when the annoucement was made, but today shows how this city really does stand together when it really counts.
Amazing.
Craig Magee
I work for a bank in Canary Wharf - the new financial district of London & a prime terrorist target. It has not been reported in the news yet, but there are a number of reports from staff at Citigroup (just around the corner from me) that two suspected suicide bombers were shot dead outside their building.
Canary Wharf is locked down - no trains or buses. I'm looking outside my window at the free river ferry service that has been put on to take people east & west along the Thames, & the queue is enormous - over a two-hour wait, & no bags (even handbags) allowed. it is strangely calm nonetheless - I think it is fair to say that the British do live up to their reputation for stoicism in crises.
It is a surreal situation here, but the emergency services have been planning for this for years. So far, the response seems quite organised & efficient, which is not typical for this country.
Elliot Smith
We will fight in our trains, we will fight in our buses but we, Londoners, will never surrender!
George Justo, London
Although I wholeheartedly agree that it must be extremely difficult to prevent a terrorist from carrying out an atrocity if they are determined to commit one and that the only people that should accept responsibility are those that perpetrated it I can't help feeling that our intelligence sources knew something was afoot.
Yesterday late afternoon, my partner and I drove back through London after a mini-break to Brighton rather than face the M25. Hackney seemed to be crawling with police cars and I even saw an armed officer patrolling the streets, which seems ironic considering the bus involved in the blast at Tavistock Place has been reported as the number 30 Hackney to Marble Arch service.
Kelly, London
CptStern said:that's just an excuse ...they're (osama and Yusuf Azzam) not really all that religious to begin with ..they just believe pushing a hardline stance of the islamic faith will attract martyrs to their cause ..you really should watch the The Power of Nightmares Hapless, I think you'd find it interesting
you need Real Player to watch it - click the free player version
Hapless said:I watched the whole thing. Interesting theory. However, the, "neo-cons" were already in power prior to 9-11. Bush was elected in 2000, and there had been a Republican majority in the House, at least, since 1994.
Hapless said:I was particularly interested in the fact that there was no evidence presented to back up their assertions about bin Laden, Al Qaeda, the alleged sleeper cells, etc. They merely said, "This was not the case." Ok, then tell me why this was not the case. I found it EXTREMELY ironic that towards the end they were poking fun at Blair and others assertion that it was only a matter of time before Britain is attacked. Whoops, there goes that theory.
BTW, I have Real Player, WMP, and several other media players. But thanks for the helpful hint. :E :E :cheers: :dozey: