pretty sad

[shapeshifter]

Nvidia's at it again:

NVIDA's Money Lures EIDOS To Pull Patch Discuss
EIDOS Interactive, the publisher for Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness issued a patch a couple of weeks ago for the game which happened to include a way to use the game as a DX9 benchmark. Since it shows NVIDIA hardware performing slower than ATI, EIDOS has pulled it down. Remember, this is a "Way it's meant to be played" game, which means NVIDIA has paid EIDOS marketing money. Keep in mind, that this patch improved performance on both ATI and NVIDIA hardware. Here's a bs statement from EIDOS Europe:

"It has come to the attention of Eidos that an unreleased patch for Tomb Raider: AOD has unfortunately been used as the basis for videocard benchmarking. While Eidos and Core appreciate the need for modern benchmarking software that utilizes the advanced shading capabilities of modern graphics hardware, Tomb Raider: AOD Patch 49 was never intended for public release and is not a basis for valid benchmarking comparisons. Core and Eidos believe that Tomb Raider: AOD performs exceptionally well on NVIDIA hardware." - Paul Baldwin, Eidos

on http://www.gamersdepot.com/index.asp

LOL I mean god, nividia is trying everything to hide their poor dx9 performance, next we will hear on the news that terriorts have attacked valve software killing the staff and destorying hl2 (nvidia's hit squad) lol.

Gabe should pull out the special fx path, force nvidia to use either dx8 or 9. lord knows they deserve it.

Just another nail in nivida's coffin for reputation.

 

[Chris D]

I haven't seen nVidia acting very professional about all this stuff. They've made a shit product, move on.

 

[koopa]

Anyone know how much of Nvidia's sales are taken by the 5900/etc line of cards (or do they make most of their money from their mobo chipsets). I'm sort of hoping this kind of stuff hits them where it hurts.

 

[The Mullinator]

Nvidia better accept they have done really crappy as of late and begin fixing the problems they have. Otherwise they could go the way of 3DFX and ATI will have no competition, which is NOT a good thing.

 

[Gorgon]

10 to the power of 6 cards Nvidia has sold in the last three- four months, Nvidia statment.

Means 1000000 poeple or more will suffer.

 

[Chris D]

I don't want them to fail. The geforce 4 line of cards seems to be brilliant. With FSAA, AF (activated through the card settings), a 1024x768 resolution, max settings I can run R6 3: Raven Shield with no problems and a playable frameright. With the odd jump at the start of a level because my computer about dies cos it only has 256mb RAM and I'm running my internet connection, IE, Steam, Kazaa Lite and MSN in the background.

It's just that the FX 59xx seems to be way too overpriced for a card that's not performing as well as it's competitors lower end cards. To be honest, knowing what the ATI cards can do, if the nvidia card could do exactly the same, I'd probably buy an nVidia fx 59xx based on the fact that my geforce4 card is brilliant, even with the later day games. But as it's not, and they've failed this time I'm going to buy an ATI. Meanwhile, I wish them all the best in scraping together a card that will match or beat the performance and quality in the next generation of video cards.

 

[Gorgon]

Originally posted by The Mullinator
Nvidia better accept they have done really crappy as of late and begin fixing the problems they have. Otherwise they could go the way of 3DFX and ATI will have no competition, which is NOT a good thing.

they will have in the near future, a better product than any cards available today, its the XGI GC.

Visit this for more info:

http://www.xgitech.com/index.htm

 

[Mother]

I've just recently made the jump from nVidia to ATi hardware. Nothing top end, but just something to replace my GTS with so I can get higher framerates and maybe a bit more eye candy.

Honestly, I can't really tell that I'm not running nVidia hardware, and I don't really care about it. I seriously considered getting a Ti4200, but with the 9100 being based on the well used 8500 chip, and being half the price, my hand was swayed. Big thumbs up for the 9100 supporting DX8.1 too.

As far as I can see it, nVidia seem to be ballsing this up completely. Their low end cards are uncompetitive, and they're top end cards don't shine anymore. I hope for their sake, they're kicked into touch by this complacency.

 

[The Mullinator]

Originally posted by G0rgon
they will have in the near future, a better product than any cards available today, its the XGI GC.

Visit this for more info:

http://www.xgitech.com/index.htm

hmmm... Thanks for the link. I will definatly be finding out more about XGI.

 

[Gordon'sFreeman]

GooD old Nvidia omg this is so funny
get more info

 

[Typhon]

Originally posted by koopa
Anyone know how much of Nvidia's sales are taken by the 5900/etc line of cards (or do they make most of their money from their mobo chipsets). I'm sort of hoping this kind of stuff hits them where it hurts.

Yeah, that would be awesome. Then ATI would have a monopoly, and then they wouldn't have to keep making better products! Then, the whole market could stagnate. That would ROCK. And nVidia failing would be a bonus, since we all gain when nVidia fails....


You're a moron.

 

[Gorgon]

Originally posted by The Mullinator
hmmm... Thanks for the link. I will definatly be finding out more about XGI.

visite xbitlabs.com

and

anadtech.com

:thumbs:

 

[Chris D]

It's always best for the consumer to have a choice. What if nvidia went bust, and it was just ATI. What if ATI's DX10 cards were too expensive and shit performance, we couldn't just run off to a different card manufacturer. We'd either be stuck with a piece of shit, or DX9.

 

[nsxownzme]

Originally posted by Typhon
Yeah, that would be awesome. Then ATI would have a monopoly, and then they wouldn't have to keep making better products! Then, the whole market could stagnate. That would ROCK. And nVidia failing would be a bonus, since we all gain when nVidia fails....


You're a moron.

So are you.

 

[koopa]

Originally posted by Typhon
Yeah, that would be awesome. Then ATI would have a monopoly, and then they wouldn't have to keep making better products! Then, the whole market could stagnate. That would ROCK. And nVidia failing would be a bonus, since we all gain when nVidia fails....


You're a moron.

Way to go on deliberately misunderstanding my post there. I hope it hurts Nvidia because this kind of business practice isn't helping consumers at all. I didn't say I want them to go out of business.

BTW, was the 'moron' comment really necessary?

 

[Gorgon]

and who said Nvidia will bust........

this is a big company m8.....and it will continue to produce GC.

they know their errors but it needs a big period of time to get it right.

 

[worldspawn]

nvidia kicked ass for me when i got my geforce 2 mx.. the first day you could... it was amazingly fast.. now, my cheap radeon 9600 is better than anything nvidia could shit out.

 

[rob.derosa]

An advantage of a monopoly would be a slow down in the development cycle, meaning we would actually have time to save up some money after buying a top-of-the-range graphics card before the next one comes out.

 

[koopa]

Originally posted by rob.derosa
An advantage of a monopoly would be a slow down in the development cycle, meaning we would actually have time to save up some money after buying a top-of-the-range graphics card before the next one comes out.

Hey, great point! I remember my old Voodoo 3 card lasting for ages, but with all the competition now a card is obsolete in months :flame:

 

[Mother]

Hey, great point! I remember my old Voodoo 3 card lasting for ages, but with all the competition now a card is obsolete in months.

Yeah, I know that feeling, I forked out £180 ($300) for a TNT2 Ultra when it first came out (I was only 16/17, and saved for ages) to have it replaced a few months later with a GeForce.

Since then, I can't see the point of buying cutting edge hardware.

Coincedently, I recently gave it away to a mate in exchange for a Big Mac and Fries. £180 -> £3.59 in only 3 years. That really sucks.

 

[shapeshifter]

but guys here's the BEST part:
Core and Eidos believe that Tomb Raider: AOD performs exceptionally well on NVIDIA hardware." - Paul Baldwin, Eidos >>>
LOL LOL LOL, I mean you can't say "bought out" better then that line.

AOD performs like utter garbage on the FX cards, every site that has tested it shows this.

 

[SuperFat]

OK WE GET IT NVIDIA MADE A BAD DECISION WOW. It's not like I couldn't find this out from nvidia or professional sites bymyself, jesus chill out, I swear at least 1 person makes a new "Nvidia sucks" thread every day. OK, enough is enough it's just lame now.

 

[shapeshifter]

Originally posted by SuperFat
OK WE GET IT NVIDIA MADE A BAD DECISION WOW. It's not like I couldn't find this out from nvidia or professional sites bymyself, jesus chill out, I swear at least 1 person makes a new "Nvidia sucks" thread every day. OK, enough is enough it's just lame now.

they just make it so easy, every day, or week they do something new to drive anything left of their repuation into the ground.

 

[rob.derosa]

Originally posted by SuperFat
"Nvidia sucks" thread every day.

Although this could be described as one of those threads, it has supplied us with some new information of... well... how nVidia suck.

 

[spitcodfry]

Originally posted by G0rgon
and who said Nvidia will bust........

this is a big company m8.....and it will continue to produce GC.

they know their errors but it needs a big period of time to get it right.

Awesome new avatar...what's it of?

 

[BlumenKohl]

There was a time I thought nVidia were decent and trustworthy. Those times are long gone.

 

[GRIMEY]

Go XGI!

 

[Feath]

You know people are saying "Oh, I wonder how well NVidia would've performed in the benchmark if they had the deal with Valve."

Answer: There wouldn't have been a benchmark.

 

[Direwolf]

Does anyone even care that Tomb Raider: AOD performs well or badly?
And if Nvidia went under theres always Matrox....

 

[A2597]

Well...TR: AOD IS DX9...

may be a crappy game, but it is DX9

 

[merc]

ati is the gamer card nvidia is the card for people who dont know what theyre buying and just buy what they see on tv and whatnot

-merc

 

[Typhon]

Originally posted by merc
ati is the gamer card nvidia is the card for people who dont know what theyre buying and just buy what they see on tv and whatnot

I have never, in my life, seen a commercial for either ATI or nVidia.

 

[Typhon]

Originally posted by koopa
Way to go on deliberately misunderstanding my post there. I hope it hurts Nvidia because this kind of business practice isn't helping consumers at all. I didn't say I want them to go out of business.

BTW, was the 'moron' comment really necessary?

Sorry. I just assumed you were another anti-nVidia troll/fanboy who actually wishes ill on companies and products he doesn't buy. I'm glad you aren't. Cheers. :cheers:

 

[A2597]

NVidia advertises on every gaming site out there....and alot besides...

bah...

 

[Typhon]

Originally posted by A2597
NVidia advertises on every gaming site out there....and alot besides...

bah...

I meant on TV, oops.. :cheese:

 

[Stiler]

ATI advertises too.
Maybe not as much, but they advertise pretty well.
On gaming sites and magazines.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

imagine if 3DFX had not been bought out by Nvidia?..

we would have lots of competition.. and last i remember, 3DFX manufactured cards that were very competitive compared to rival cards..

ya, granted 3DFX slipped a little at the end with Voodoo4/5 but before that, if u had a limited budget and wanted a card that would keep u happy, then a Voodoo card was one decent option.


stupid Nvidia had to buy them out.. i hate that sorta thing..
now if Nvidia doesn't get their act together and put together a good card, Ati is going to control the market like Microsoft does with O/S's..

i miss 3DFX


anyone else a 3DFX fan?