probably one of the best food docu out there...british made

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i'm sure Eejit will have a lot to say.

let's clear up something first...yeah, it's subliminally anti-corporation (even tough they do interview or try to contact these corporations).
what makes it stand out, that the lady narrator actually used real lab results for her arguments and other more or less valid tests.
she interviews farmers that actually work for the mentioned supermarkets and even then it's not a pretty picture.

it's a tiny bit sensationalist, but the fact that she doesn't outright throw shit at the retailers, makes it decent in my book. in some parts it actually criticizes the consumer.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5774892958354867332&hl=en part 1

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3486838871531386599 part 2



things that interested me

-practices of animal husbandry and process...they actually showed proof that badly treated animals are not a rarity and they do end up on shelves of supermarkets

-nutritional and taste value of industry produced food...i think this is the least disputed part of the video. i can vouch for the taste...homegrown fruits are incomparably more delicious than what you can get in standard supermarkets.

-bad practices in agriculture and food waste...makes me even more skeptical about the benefit of GM foods. obviously caloric value is not an issue, but as Eejit will point out nutritional value is...well considering how much space is wasted to produce waste food we could just grow a richer variety of vegetables/fruit and of course our practice to process vegetables/fruits that lose up to 50% of their vitamin value (i.e. freezing food...sending it 3000 miles away just to be processed and back again). i really believe super foods will just further perpetrate our bad habits. as for use of pesticides...obviously the use of these is overdone due to ridiculously high standards for fresh food. (i.e. the farmer being potentially rejected due to a few rotten specimens).
 
Might watch it tomorrow.
You make it sound like it isn't a totally biased piece of shit pushing an agenda this time, which is a plus.
 
96% chance thats its a totally biased piece of shit pushing an agenda.
 
Might watch it tomorrow.
You make it sound like it isn't a totally biased piece of shit pushing an agenda this time, which is a plus.

i thing i have to agree with the lady on this part:

supermarkets made food cheaper, but at the same time they made healthy/bio food a lot more expensive than it should be.


i think the number mentioned was 60%... of organic food was "wasted" due to BS aesthetic standards.


look you're free to watch or not watch it...i think it is a good piece.
and besides, calling it BS without counter arguments is silly.
 
The simple fact is the public demands a certain amount of product for a certian price.

People want cheap food so food has to be produced cheaply. It is all very well to complain about the poor standards of the farmers or moan about the super markets driving down prices but at the end of the day its the fault of the public. Producers and retailers go where the money is and the money is in dirt cheap food, which, entirely unsurprisingly is of dubious quality.
 
The simple fact is the public demands a certain amount of product for a certian price.

People want cheap food so food has to be produced cheaply. It is all very well to complain about the poor standards of the farmers or moan about the super markets driving down prices but at the end of the day its the fault of the public. Producers and retailers go where the money is and the money is in dirt cheap food, which, entirely unsurprisingly is of dubious quality.

agree...but that's a bit simplified and it doesn't mean we should just ignore it
 
I haven't seen this particular "food docu" yet (might check it out later), but if you want to know a good deal about our industrial food system here in the US, I'd recommend you check out the book "The Omnivore's Dilemma" by Michael Pollan, if you haven't already read it. I recently read that book, and currently reading the one he wrote after that, and it was very interesting/awesome to say the least.
 
This isn't actually all that sensationalist, it just states a lot of things that should be obvious. The poultry industry is pretty disgusting.
 
I really enjoyed that. I'm going to be looking out for hockburn every time I shop now though.
 
This isn't actually all that sensationalist, it just states a lot of things that should be obvious. The poultry industry is pretty disgusting.

I worked in a poultry slaughter house for a while. I am a vegetarian, so I agree that it is extremely disgusting. However it was very strictly sanitary.

What do you mean specifically?
 
By evolution, we will all evolve to have lousy quality chickens in our stomachs and still be superrace
 
Why the **** does a documentary have so many obnoxious sound bites and dramatic music? It panders to viewers with a 15 second attention span. Notice that the format is always 15 seconds of talking followed by some music and a montage of video clips.
 
Why the **** does a documentary have so many obnoxious sound bites and dramatic music? It panders to viewers with a 15 second attention span. Notice that the format is always 15 seconds of talking followed by some music and a montage of video clips.

that bothered even me...but i tend to focus on the info that gives not the appearance
 
agree...but that's a bit simplified and it doesn't mean we should just ignore it

Quite so, but the only way the situation is going to improve is if consumers are willing to pay for produce that is produced in a more acceptable manner. Until the public is genuinely willing to give up thier £3 chickens there wont be any improvement.
 
Quite so, but the only way the situation is going to improve is if consumers are willing to pay for produce that is produced in a more acceptable manner. Until the public is genuinely willing to give up thier £3 chickens there wont be any improvement.

Only 4 pence per chicken goes to the farmer. The supermarkets are controlling the meat industry my friend.
 
Although it's true that businesses respond to the actions of the public, they are also very opaque about their practicies. So your average shopper (Probably doesn't think about it much, but when he does) will think "I'm being ethical" because he just won't know what's gone into producing his food, and finding out just isn't something he can reasonably do.

Of course, seeing documentaries such as this is somewhat enlightening, but then changing eating habits is really, really hard.

I suppose the point of what I'm saying is this; It's everyone's fault but mine.
 
probably one of the best food docu out there...british made

Are you high? Good food documentary is supposed to make you hungry. That didn't even slightly make me feel like running to closest fast food stand or fridge.
 
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