prop_static entities disappear

[bynari]

I've got a really strange problem here, and I'm not sure how to fix it.

My map calls for a really tall ladder, so I've stacked several ladder models going up a wall. When I get to the fifth ladder, it shows up in the 3d view window in hammer, but not when I test the map. However, if I move the ladder away from the others, It shows up.

It isn't a problem just with the ladder model, I've had the same thing happen with handrails.

Any ideas?

Nick

 

[Dangles7]

you could just creat your own with brushes which would probably be easyer and you wouldn't have to put so many togeather.

 

[Limpet]

have you checked the start and end fade distances?
start -1
end=0

 

[Mess]

Try using props_c17/metalladder_03 or something similar. It's the really tall ladder used at the start of ravenholm.

 

[bynari]

Yeah, those are correct. I've been playing around with it a bit, and I've found that the ladders seem to disappear in that one spot. I removed the other ladders, and placed one at the problem spot. It disappeared once i tested the map. I moved it to the side, and it reappeared.

 

[npstaind]

im having the same problem with sinks in my map. i tried changing the space fades, but that didnt work. i tried just plain moving them and that didnt work either. the rest of the props in my map work fine, is it the model?

 

[bynari]

Okay, this is really starting to tick me off. I took the metalladder03 suggestion, which worked, and I moved on. Now, some of the new things i've added don't show up. I'm missing fences, ladders and other entities all over the place.

 

[UltraProAnti]

I've had this with prop_physics: I put one of those orange trolleys and a grav gun in a test map, the grav gun picked it up and threw it even though I couldn't see it.

 

[bynari]

Well, the weird thing with my problem is that the objects don't exist at all ingame. I shot a crossbow bolt through the side of a visible ladder, and It stuck. When I try to shoot through where the missing ladder should be, it goes through. I can walk through spaces where I had placed fences.

 

[Mess]

Check your console after loading the map and see if it has come up with any error messages. Also, check your compile log.

 

[bynari]

ok, i know what the problem is now, im just not sure how to fix it. My map is basically four large walls surrounding a courtyard. its an outside map, so I need to have to see the sky. And thats the problem. above the four walls is one giant leak. The question is now, How do I seal off the open area while still allowing players to walk on top of the four walls?

 

[kan3]

try changing it to an override instead of static see if shows up...if it does then just check the appropriate flags so it doesn't move

 

[bynari]

Ok, that leak was definitely the problem. I enclosed the playing area with a few brushes, and the props are showing up. Now, how do I seal off the map AND be able to see my skybox?

 

[bynari]

HAHA! Nailed it! I replaced the texures of the brushes surrounding the map with the nodraw texture, and that did the trick!

 

[Raeven0]

You could even go so far as...

 

[Mess]

It'd be better to use Player Clip on the brushes that you want to restrict the player from falling out of the courtyard.

 

[npstaind]

if you use the no_draw texture on the walls, when u shoot a crossbow at it, it will stick in it...atleast thats what it did for me, and that wont look very good.