RIAA sues 500 IP numbers

it sounds stupid because it is stupid. i cant say i blame them though... its stealing. for now i just download through my browser.
 
LoneDeranger said:
http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=17500462

Not only does this sound stupid, it will be technically impossible since most people use dynamic IPs.
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Might sound stupid but think about it

The RIAA sue 500 users, chances are most of those will have been breaking the law using illegal files. If not, their suing innocent people, who in turn will REALLY hate those who break the law. They will then turn on their own friends blaming them for causing them all the trouble. It continues and grows, people going to the media, big stories about it, always in the news, innocent people afraid they'll be sued for doing nothing, so they start to support the RIAA and grass up the pirates they know and so on..
 
They should just ****ing give up.

People are actually very willing to use services like Napster, mycokemusic, i-Tunes etc. Those that aren't and are still going to download illegally surely aren't going to be causing too much damage.

They're never going to stop it unless they outlaw P2P networks, but recently some sort of authority tried to sue one or something but it turns out that they aren't doing anything illegal as such.
 
I think Cortes had an easier time searching for the Fountain of Youth.
 
LoneDeranger said:
Not only does this sound stupid, it will be technically impossible since most people use dynamic IPs.
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Most DSL/Cables setup run 24/7 and often rarely change their IP address, simply renew their existing DHCP lease. Dialups change each time they connect.

Also, ISPs log all DHCP leases so given an IP and date and time they can identify the hardware address at the time. This hardware MAC is a unique address of your router/modem/NIC. Once known they can relocate it's current address and investigate.

They may also log user account, since many PPPoE requires a sign-on.
 
Ok, but with the IP address, are they legally allowed to trace people?

I assume before, issuing subpoenas to them directly was illegal due to them having to gain the information from the ISP therefore the ISP breaking the Data Protection Act (states that all digitally stored data is stored safely and unavailable to third parties etc.) but what is the situation now if they file the law suit first?
 
Chris_D said:
Ok, but with the IP address, are they legally allowed to trace people?

I assume before, issuing subpoenas to them directly was illegal due to them having to gain the information from the ISP therefore the ISP breaking the Data Protection Act (states that all digitally stored data is stored safely and unavailable to third parties etc.) but what is the situation now if they file the law suit first?
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Last time I checked that was an invasion of privacy. Could probibly even get in trouble with the ISP.
 
"was illegal due to them having to gain the information from the ISP therefore the ISP breaking the Data Protection Act"

That's what I just said.
 
Fenric said:
Might sound stupid but think about it

The RIAA sue 500 users, chances are most of those will have been breaking the law using illegal files. If not, their suing innocent people, who in turn will REALLY hate those who break the law. They will then turn on their own friends blaming them for causing them all the trouble. It continues and grows, people going to the media, big stories about it, always in the news, innocent people afraid they'll be sued for doing nothing, so they start to support the RIAA and grass up the pirates they know and so on..
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Your logic is flawed. If the RIAA keep suing innocent people it will do nothing but piss everyone off and get the RIAA very bad press. Remember that 12 year old girl? She wasn't even innocent yet the media had a field day with it.

Courts have also shown that it isn't illegal, so technically there isn't anything wrong with it.
 
i urned off file sharing on limewire

will that keep the crazy riaa police away???
 
Chris_D said:
"was illegal due to them having to gain the information from the ISP therefore the ISP breaking the Data Protection Act"

That's what I just said.
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Yeah well FBI somehow can get away with stuff like that..... :flame:
 
Javert said:
I think Cortes had an easier time searching for the Fountain of Youth.
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:)

*pssst! it was ponce de leon that was searching for the fountain of youth.. cortez just conquered and subjugated mexico

.. not to ruin anyone's fun or anything :)



oh and, the RIAA sucks :angry:
/in-depth analysis
 
If they sue my motherboard (since I use onboard lan), I'll be sure to get it a good laywer!!!

*thinks a minute*

On second thought, scratch that... I'll rather just give them the mobo and buy a new one, its cheaper. I'll be sure to visit it in jail though, and bring it a harddrive with (legal of course) information once a month.
 
RIAA are a bunch of ****ing assholes.. Can't believe they're still in business..
 
I can't wait to go to the RIAA headquarters, drop my Jedi robes and bring out my real lightsaber.
And hack them to pieces.
 
Lil' Timmy said:
:)

*pssst! it was ponce de leon that was searching for the fountain of youth.. cortez just conquered and subjugated mexico

.. not to ruin anyone's fun or anything :)



oh and, the RIAA sucks :angry:
/in-depth analysis
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*Kicks himself. :cheese:
 
Well in the UK the Data Protection Act doesn't offer any protection if you are suspected of criminal activity or may hid something that is required for National Security.

Basically if it is for an illegal thing (Which it is....) and they can get permission then the Data Protection Act protects squat.
 
It's a sad commentary when the criminals are considered the victims and a body persuing legitimate legal action is considered the criminal. What next, we're going to start feeling sorry for rapists when their victims press charges?
 
yea most people do use dial ups hmm....this sux....do they have to cacth you in the act??? or if you have songs on your computer?
 
Mountain Man said:
It's a sad commentary when the criminals are considered the victims and a body persuing legitimate legal action is considered the criminal. What next, we're going to start feeling sorry for rapists when their victims press charges?
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You did NOT just compare sharing music online with rapists..
 
dawdler said:
If they sue my motherboard (since I use onboard lan), I'll be sure to get it a good laywer!!!

*thinks a minute*

On second thought, scratch that... I'll rather just give them the mobo and buy a new one, its cheaper. I'll be sure to visit it in jail though, and bring it a harddrive with (legal of course) information once a month.
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Heh :D

I'll do that too :)
 
What ya want the RIAA won't let ya see,
Music sharing is alright for you and me.
Piracy, 'tis for the brave and true!
Don't be dumb, join in, have some fun!
Oh, the life of a pirate, that's the life for me!!
YARR!!!
 
Haha, good one .. Yarr matey thar be music and rum for all of us in ye olde KazAa blacksmith
 
Before the RIAA was demanding the personal information from the ISPs that are connected with the IP addresses they had.

Now they are filing lawsuits against the Unique Ip addresses and will get the information through Subpoenas to the ISP's from a judge.

Thats the only difference, one extra step, The court system.
 
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