Selling my current computer..building another.

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Since I've not played with AMD besides fixing them *Blown capaciters, fried processor, etc* I'm deciding to go out the box of what I know better, and build an AMD machine. I'm an AMD hater, it's true, but thats irrelivant right now...

I'm currently selling my box for $600 to a friend of mine. The entire box is going to be his *Besides my HDD I have now of course* So that means I need a new computer.

Here is my list up on Newegg....:

ASPIRE X-CRUISE -BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail$63.00

ASUS A8N-VM CSM Socket 939 NVIDIA GeForce 6150 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $80.99

SAPPHIRE 100154 Radeon X1800XT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - OEM $285.00
ASPIRE ATX-AS520W BLACK ATX 520W Power Supply - Retail

CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model Twinx2048-3200c2 - Retail $191.00

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Manchester 1GHz HT Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model ADA3800BVBOX - Retail $295.00$59.99


Grand Total - $1,005.65

So what do you think?
 
That power supply will not power that system. It's nice up to that part. (Nice case too. I have one -- very nice.) I'd suggest this power supply. I have one in my current system. You can't hear it and it hasn't failed on me yet.
 
that power supply will power that system. but get an ATX 2.0 one anyway. just to be safe. they are more stable! dont cheap out on PSU!

edit: haha its exactly the same PSU as my PC! its ATX 1 tho. its perfectly fine but ATX 2.0 is just better overall



i dont see why it wouldnt work on his system!

mines the same. ive overclocked everything to hell! no issues here



mirco ATXs arent fantastic for cooling i heard as everythings compacted!
 
What makes you think it wouldn't Qonfused? I've heard of lower PS's running systems like this. Though, I'm not 100% sure they were telling the truth, never noticed first hand...anybody want to confirm 100%?
 
neptuneuk said:
that power supply will power that system. but get an ATX 2.0 one anyway. just to be safe. they are more stable! dont cheap out on PSU!
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I doubt it.

When I say "power the system," I'm talking about long-term. You do want your power supply to last more than one month, don't you Cyber? On a power supply, look at the voltage on the 12v1 (and v2 rail if there is one) because most of the computer is run off of that rail. The one you picked only has 18A on it. A 7800GT officially need 25 at the minimum and it goes the same for an ATi counterpart. Not to mention you have a dual-core processor (and the CPU runs off from the 12v rail).
 
Qonfused said:
I doubt it.

When I say "power the system," I'm talking about long-term. You do want your power supply to last more than one month, don't you Cyber? On a power supply, look at the voltage on the 12v1 (and v2 rail if there is one) because most of the computer is run off of that rail. The one you picked only has 18A on it. A 7800GT officially need 25 at the minimum and it goes the same for an ATi counterpart. Not to mention you have a dual-core processor (and the CPU runs off from the 12v rail).
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Then sir, find me a cheap one :p
 
My PSU is a Antec TruPower II 550watt, I'd go with this. Costed me a little over a $100 but it was worth it...
 
Minerel said:
My PSU is a Antec TruPower II 550watt, I'd go with this. Costed me a little over a $100 but it was worth it...
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$100. D: Yeah, I found a 520W for 52.

Updating original post.
 
just curious but why on earth are you buying an matx board there so small
 
Yeah Cyber but theres more to it than that.
That Antec TruPower II can take almost anything you throw at it(except maybe Quad-SLI). You want a FX-60 with Dual 7900GTX that are massively overclocked? You want it to do that with ease? Yeah it will do that.

It isn't so much about Watt's, but about it's rails and stability. Sure that power supply can output 520 Watts, but do you really think it will be able to handle a 7900GTX and a Fx-60. Uh, no. It is cheap for a reason, because it is cheaply made.

I got the Antec Trupower II 550Watt so I know that I wont have to upgrade that part of my computer for a very long time. While the next computer you build will require a new power supply and you'll waste another $50, while mine will last and still be extremely stable. Not only that but yours also has a higher chance of breaking down quicker so you'll just end up buying another one.
 
Yeah, he's right. It's cheap for a reason. And this would be a good time to wait on buying.
AMD will be coming out with their new socket that uses DDR2 very soon. It will be the same CPU model numbers just on the new socket with DDR2 memory. And Socket 939 prices will probably drop then.

A) Buy when prices drop
or
B) Buy into new socket
 
also bad power suplys can lead to those blown capacitors and fried processors
 
Minerel said:
Yeah Cyber but theres more to it than that.
That Antec TruPower II can take almost anything you throw at it(except maybe Quad-SLI). You want a FX-60 with Dual 7900GTX that are massively overclocked? You want it to do that with ease? Yeah it will do that.

It isn't so much about Watt's, but about it's rails and stability. Sure that power supply can output 520 Watts, but do you really think it will be able to handle a 7900GTX and a Fx-60. Uh, no. It is cheap for a reason, because it is cheaply made.

I got the Antec Trupower II 550Watt so I know that I wont have to upgrade that part of my computer for a very long time. While the next computer you build will require a new power supply and you'll waste another $50, while mine will last and still be extremely stable. Not only that but yours also has a higher chance of breaking down quicker so you'll just end up buying another one.
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This entire post confuses me. Are you saying I picked a BAD Power Supply? WTB translation.
 
The PSU specs don't look bad...but its price means it won't last long.

Go with an Antec or enermax PSU. For $50 more yor computer will be stable and parts won't get ruined. A sound investment.
 
giant384 said:
just curious but why on earth are you buying an matx board there so small
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Ditto. Why would you want a micro atx when you are building a pc in a tower case ?

Also, you'd do well to take asus's advice and wait for the new socket and DDR2 support to come out.
 
Cyber. When I built my first and second PC, I always went cheap on the PSU (but changed my mind after some advice). And I used the same excuse too.

"Good ratings on rails? Alright, got one that's 40 bucks."
"Good wattage? Alright 600w ($30 PSU)."

And I know it's hard to dish out a whole $80-100 on a PSU -- it just seems stupid. I know where you are coming from. But listen to us when we point out faults and reccomend PSUs. Please, for your own sake, don't cheap out on the PSU. It seems so insignificant, I know, but it one of the more important parts in a computer. It's way too often overlooked and I've heard too many stories about PSUs going bad, shorting out and frying equipment.
 
A PSU is one of the most important pieces of your computer.
Theres more to it than watts there is rails and stability.
You have have a PSU that can do 2000 watts and have it cost $40, but that dosn't mean a $100 400Watt PSU couldn't kick its ass all over the place. A bad psu will need to be replaced rather frequent, can short out\fry equipment, in the end can cost you more money.

I mean that power supply may last you good for a few months, but it could die out and what are you gonna do then? Get another cheap one? Then another cheap one? Or just buy a nice $110 one that will last you more than long enough. My Power Supply is certified for SLI and that was done back in the 6800 days. The 6800's used more power than the 7800\7900. So I know that I will be able to upgrade my computer as well.

If your going to build a computer you should build it with flexibility. It's why I got a SLI motherboard, A good power supply, a socket 939 mobo. Because if I want to upgrade I can stick in another graphics card without having to worry about my motherboard or power supply. That just saved me a bunch of money. What if I want a new CPU? Socket 939 has a bunch of AMD Cpus and they've only recently switched over to the M. I can easily get a damn good CPU for my mobo.
And I know my power supply will be able to handle it.
 
3ssence said:
Ditto. Why would you want a micro atx when you are building a pc in a tower case ?

Also, you'd do well to take asus's advice and wait for the new socket and DDR2 support to come out.
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Considering I need a computer..well..nowish. Yeah, no time to wait. :(

So you guys are going on about rails and such, and I have no idea. Why don't you pick a decent PSU, and be like "put this one on Pitz" and I'll be like "KK".

How about this one? I can't tell about the rails and such though..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817190007
 
CyberPitz said:
Considering I need a computer..well..nowish. Yeah, no time to wait. :(

So you guys are going on about rails and such, and I have no idea. Why don't you pick a decent PSU, and be like "put this one on Pitz" and I'll be like "KK".

How about this one? I can't tell about the rails and such though..
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817190007
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I already did.

Qonfused said:
That power supply will not power that system. It's nice up to that part. (Nice case too. I have one -- very nice.) I'd suggest this power supply. I have one in my current system. You can't hear it and it hasn't failed on me yet.
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If you missed the link...
 
well see, every thing in you copmuter need power, some devices need more power than some. the rails are different voltage lines to devices, most of your high end stuff, video card, hd, dvd-r's adn such run off of the 12v rail. now to ensure that proper power gets to each device, you have to have enough amperage(amps). an ampere is the the amout of a steady current. the less amps you have the less power that your devices can recieve.

your first power suply was lacking a bit of amps on the 12v rail, and like every one else has been sudjesting, go with the better on.

hope that clears it up

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp fill that out, and find out how many watts you really need

or if your really up to it, read this. http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=779582
 
It's pretty good. The only thing keeping me from making a more enthusiastic comment is envy! :D
 
eqyally having a decent spu = mans they use better parts. which run cooler. it is designed better so it is more effcient( COSTS U LESS TO RUN)

enermax liberty 500W

i would totally reccomend that powersupply
 
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