Senate to apologise for not stopping lynching ...50 yrs after the fact

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"The Senate seldom says it's sorry, although it is now ready to officially express its remorse over the failure to outlaw lynching in the United States

A resolution that the chamber was likely to take up Monday voices regret for the Senate's unwillingness for years to pass a law stopping a crime that cost the lives of over 4,700 people, mostly blacks, between 1882 and 1968."


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an honest mistake or was it purposeful? It makes no sense ...there was really no reason not to legislate against lynching: Murder is still murder
 
Yeah but wait, it may not have been outlawed but people who lynched where still persecuted right. Cause I'm sure that I saw movies that were based on true stories of racist beeing procecuted for lyncing.
 
lynching? whats that? I read the articles and it seems like torture or something....
 
mob justice ...they hang a person ...usually blacks
 
And that was legal?

I thought they could still get done for murder.

America is relation to coloured people was an absolute disgrace from the word go. A simple apology cannot heal these wounds.
 
they just ignored it back then ...doesnt really surprise me because at the time small town law enforcement was sometimes behind the lynching
 
50 years ago, America was the land of the free, unless you were Black, Latino, Irish, Japanese, a Communist, a Muslim, a foreigner, a woman, poor, gay, Jewish. So if you're a poor, black, communist foreigner who's Jewish and gay, you're pretty done for.
 
heh I dont think all that much has changed since then :E
 
The Senate has reached an all-time low, i think...



in apologizing for this now, not for failing to make the legislation 50 years ago
 
Things like this should've been delt with long before. I think Stern is on the right track for his criticism.
 
Good they apologized.. but, if things were right, they shouldn't have had to legislate at all.. it's illegal as murder even before it being 'banned' (so isn't it banned anyway?)

But I understand that they had to have the senate outlaw it specifically for the proper attention and enforcement and for people to start doing the right thing about what was going on.
 
it shouldn't have happened at all...but when do I stop being persecuted for being born white? when do I stop being blamed for africans selling/trading prisoners from other tribes to be put into slavery 200+ years ago?

too many old grudges laying around doing nothing but continuing the hate..quit living in the past and learn from it instead,I say..
 
T.H.C.138 said:
it shouldn't have happened at all...but when do I stop being persecuted for being born white? when do I stop being blamed for africans selling/trading prisoners from other tribes to be put into slavery 200+ years ago?

too many old grudges laying around doing nothing but continuing the hate..quit living in the past and learn from it instead,I say..

please, this has nothing to do with race, it's about atonment for delayed justice ..or none at all in this case
 
are there a lot of people in senete who actually were in senete when lynching went down, back in the day?
 
no ..I dont think so ..lynching ended in the 50's ..so they'd have to be in their 80-90's
 
aren't some of them that old? what is the retirement age for politicians? it should probably be lowered a few years whatever it is IMO..;)

and I will say the important part (to me at least) of my previous post again..simply because I feel it applies here and in many other areas of this particular neck of the forums

"too many old grudges laying around doing nothing but continuing the hate..quit living in the past and learn from it instead..."

everybody has to drag up shit from 50+ to 200+ years ago not just blacks..

and before you start thinking ill of me in this area I'll have you know I am going out with a half black chick and have previously dated the races that I have access to in my city..:)

I just don't think I should have to apologise for something I had no part in..or make reparations or whatever either..

it was a horrible thing but I didn't do it..and I would do my damnedest to not let it happen again in this era..through voting or however it needs to be done..

even if it means cracking some skulls with my baseball bat to stop an evil act from happening again..F**K RACISM!!

thank you for your patience! :)
 
T.H.C.138 said:
aren't some of them that old? what is the retirement age for politicians? it should probably be lowered a few years whatever it is IMO..;)

and I will say the important part (to me at least) of my previous post again..simply because I feel it applies here and in many other areas of this particular neck of the forums

"too many old grudges laying around doing nothing but continuing the hate..quit living in the past and learn from it instead..."

everybody has to drag up shit from 50+ to 200+ years ago not just blacks..

and before you start thinking ill of me in this area I'll have you know I am going out with a half black chick and have previously dated the races that I have access to in my city..:)

I just don't think I should have to apologise for something I had no part in..or make reparations or whatever either..


not good enough ...4,743 of your fellow americans were murdered and will never see justice, doesnt that matter? thousands of peoples lives permanently affected and you'd rather we swept it under the carpet?
 
What is good enough then Stern? I often see you express facts, but you never reveal your agenda. Strategically, your methods are sound. If you don't have both feet in the room the door can't close behind you.
 
GiaOmerta said:
What is good enough then Stern? I often see you express facts, but you never reveal your agenda. Strategically, your methods are sound. If you don't have both feet in the room the door can't close behind you.

in this case, an apology should be made (still nowhere near enough)

the statute of limitations pretty much precludes it going any further than an apology
 
what isn't good enough? I haven't dated enough other races for you to not consider me racist? or I haven't killed myself in a glorious explosion in the name of___, to apologise for something NONE OF US had anything to do with?

apologies to any here at these forums who actually were around 50+ years ago..:)

how about the billions of HUMAN BEINGS killed throughout the centuries? don't they deserve something by your reasoning? how does a tsunami apologise, or an earthquake for that matter? do the dead apologise to each other?

and how the **** do you apologise to the dead anyways? do you hold a seance? or let the almighty army of the dead feast upon your flesh? ;)

seriously...
 
CptStern said:
not good enough ...4,743 of your fellow americans were murdered and will never see justice, doesnt that matter? thousands of peoples lives permanently affected and you'd rather we swept it under the carpet?


that number could also be considered genocide! if 6000 albanians got murdered in kosovo, is genocide that should also be! but last i've heared the senate is mostly red, or not?
 
CptStern said:
in this case, an apology should be made (still nowhere near enough0

No way. Rediculious. I'm not apologizing because my great granddaddies best friend hung a black person. I can say I'm sorry it happened. But don't even make it "I'm sorry that I did this to you." I'm not racist, I dispise racists. You want an apology? Go dig up some random white persons grave from the 1800's and ask them for an apology. I didn't ask for that shit. I never lowered a black citizen to another level. I never even thought low of someone for the color of their skin. It's not that there's not enough love, it's that there's too much hate. I'm not going to apologize, not that I should. My family got here in the 1930's.
 
Continueing, to put this in perspective for you Sterny:

Osama Bin Laden helped kill thousands of Americans of all backgrounds, colors, and religions. Am I going to expect an apology from his great grand children? NO. Why? Because they had nothing to do with it. If people have beef, make sure you got it with the right people.
 
No-one is going to reply to my rather open words? I'm shocked. I thought Sterny would be all over this.
 
50 years ago, America was the land of the free, unless you were Black, Latino, Irish, Japanese, a Communist, a Muslim, a foreigner, a woman, poor, gay, Jewish. So if you're a poor, black, communist foreigner who's Jewish and gay, you're pretty done for.


LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Anyway, getting back on Topic. Sad though it was, racism was rampant in the world, and the mindset of about every white person at during those times was "Hey, I'm the superior race, lets go teach the inferior races that we are better." Just look at the scramble for Africa, there is still a huge amount of racism there due to white interferance. A sad part in human history. And the apology is a little (Very) late. For once I have to agree with Stern, this isn't something you just sweep under the carpet.

So if you're a poor, black, communist foreigner who's Jewish and gay, you're pretty done for.

Communism promotes athieism, so that phrase doesn't really fit. But if there ever was a Poor, black, communist, gay foreigner, I think he wouldn't fit in in about 99% of the world. :upstare:
 
CptStern said:
no ..I dont think so ..lynching ended in the 50's ..so they'd have to be in their 80-90's
There was that senator who died two years ago who ran for president in 1948 with the dixies. Thats why Trent Lott got in so much trouble.
 
CptStern said:
"The Senate seldom says it's sorry, although it is now ready to officially express its remorse over the failure to outlaw lynching in the United States
uhhhhhhhh wasnt that already covered under murder laws?
 
Top Secret said:
No way. Rediculious. I'm not apologizing because my great granddaddies best friend hung a black person. I can say I'm sorry it happened. But don't even make it "I'm sorry that I did this to you."


you know you'd probably appear less idiotic if you actually read the first post ..unless you're a senator, you're not going to apologise
 
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