Should people be allowed to sell their organs?

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NEW YORK (AP) - In 2005, a rebellious and sporadically employed Israeli man flew to New York to give up a kidney to save an American businessman. For that, he says he was paid $20,000, which appeared in a brown envelope on his hospital bed after the operation.

That payoff would be illegal.

But the kidney donor, 39-year-old Nick Rosen of Tel Aviv, says that doesn't matter. "I smoke pot. That's also against the law."

Rosen believes he did a good deed and that organ donors like him should be compensated. Much of his story can be confirmed, and the case gives new resonance to claims that a black market for kidneys has thrived even in the United States.

Rosen made a video about his transplant experience, and near the end of it, he is seen reclining on a bed piled with cash. A subtitle says: "This is what $20,000 looks like." It's hard to tell the amount, but the $100 face of Ben Franklin is visible on the bills.

His tale of organ trafficking might be incredible if he had not made the video - and if the issue of black market organs had not burst into public view with the recent arrest of a New Yorker accused of brokering a kidney sale. Rosen does not know that man, who as far as he knows, had nothing to do with his own transaction.

For years, kidneys have been available on a thriving international black market, but evidence of organ trafficking in the United States is harder to find. However, doctors and others in the transplant field have long suspected an illegal organ market exists here.

Nick Rosen's story - which he says began when he answered a "Kidney Donor Wanted" ad in an Israeli newspaper - may open a window into that world.







what do you guys think?
I think alot of people in the U.S would if they could. But it would most likely mean that only "rich sick" people could afford to ever get a heart or kidney so I was thinking couldn't they just keep the system that they have right now and a separate system were people have to pay?
I know it probably just wouldn't work the way where rich people and "poorer people"would have the same chances...and if they can't have equal chances then I don't think it should become legal then.
but wouldn't it be nice if my family received some compensation for all my organs in case I die an early death? I'm a donor right now and I really don't mind them making my Casket lighter but I'm sure people without life insurance would appreciate this as well.
 
Sure why not. The more people donate, the more organs available, the lower the price of getting a replacement, the better the chances for someone getting an organ no matter their financial status.
 
them you have the case of a litle poor girl that needs a kidney,and when the donor is about is about to give it,a rich old man surrounded by guards and girls enters and said "I give you the triple" and the donor change its mind and the girl will have to wait for someone to die to get a kidney if the family of the deceased dont sell it to other person
 
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be selling it to specific people who need your squishy bits, but rather a collective pot like it is now.
 
I think people who donate organs, or who agree to donate upon death should get tax breaks. i think i even made a similar thread at some point here about the issue
 
It's their organs let them do what they want with them - why is this illegal? Like it's not even immoral or anything. You are allowing someone else to live, and getting payed. Same principle as those guys who make artificial hearts and stuff.. Some of us don't have that skill to make them so we just donate the ones we have. It doesn't effect anyone else negatively..
 
Why donate when teen pregnancies, which are always a rapid occurance, can build new organs.
Unprotective whores, the real heroes of society.
 
I'm curious as to how low somebody would sell their organs for. I can't help but feel where there's a guy selling for $20,000 there's a guy willing to sell for $19,000.
 
The only issue I have with organ transactions is if any party is unwilling. Like somebody stealing somebodies organs.
 
For Sale:

Human Kidney.
Used.
Works great.

$20,000 Or best offer

NO REFUNDS.
 
The only issue I have with organ transactions is if any party is unwilling. Like somebody stealing somebodies organs.

lol no shit.

I'm curious as to how low somebody would sell their organs for. I can't help but feel where there's a guy selling for $20,000 there's a guy willing to sell for $19,000.

I'd sell one of my kidneys for 5 grand. I mean, shit. If I ever need another then I'll just go to the hospital. Hell, I may even get my own put back in.
 
The best organ to sell would be the liver. For a liver transplant, all they need is to cut a portion off. In both the patient and the donor, the liver will grow back to a full sized organ in a matter of weeks.
In a typical adult recipient Living donor liver transplantation (LDLT), 55% of the liver (the right lobe) is removed from a healthy living donor. The donor's liver will regenerate to 100% function within 4–6 weeks and will reach full volumetric size with recapitulation of the normal structure soon thereafter. It may be possible to remove 70% to 75% of the liver from a healthy living donor without harm in most cases. The transplanted portion will reach full function and the appropriate size in the recipient as well, although it will take longer than for the donor. [1]
 
But how much money can you get for that little chunk?
 
Krynn72 said:
But how much money can you get for that little chunk?
I'm not sure how much it's worth. You tell me.
Dog-- said:
So could you just grow one in a jar?
You mean keep one? No, it must be immediately transplanted. Organs can only be kept alive in ice for a matter of hours before tissue begins to die. I'm no expert on the subject - only a vague knowledge - but I think its because it needs blood / oxygen circulation. But if that is the case, you'd think they would have invented machines that circulate oxygenated blood in order to store organs. Dunno.

Anyway, keep in mind that organs are only compatible with the identical blood types.
 
Can't say it's a bad thing, you save a life.

On the other hand, if the people who needed an organ transplant needed it due to their bad habits (drinking, smoking, drugs etc.), they should not receive a new organ. If I am to donate an organ, I will only donate it to those who require a new organ due to natural diseases, not from smoking or drinking etc.
 
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Straight-edge praying good ol' boys are the only ones allowed organs?!
 
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Straight-edge praying good ol' boys are the only ones allowed organs?!

Depends, if you are an alcoholic who refused to stop drinking so much and get professional help, you don't deserve a new kidney. Who says you won't go nuts drinking again after that?

There are those less fortunate who cannot afford a new kidney even though they desperately need one due to a natural born disease, these people should be getting new organs, not those who spoil themselves away doing drugs.
 
What if the addiction was so strong they needed more than just a few suggestions to see a pro-ass-fessional.

But that's just getting into silly what if's.

I say, a spot in tea in the park?
 
Can't say it's a bad thing, you save a life.

On the other hand, if the people who needed an organ transplant needed it due to their bad habits (drinking, smoking, drugs etc.), they should not receive a new organ. If I am to donate an organ, I will only donate it to those who require a new organ due to natural diseases, not from smoking or drinking etc.

What a nice person you are.
 
What if the addiction was so strong they needed more than just a few suggestions to see a pro-ass-fessional.

But that's just getting into silly what if's.

I say, a spot in tea in the park?

The first step to correcting one's mistake is admitting to it.

I guess if the person realizes he has a problem, and wants to get help, then he should absolutely recieve the help he needs and a nice second hand organ. It's understandable if the person can't pull out of his addiction, but no addiction is strong enough to make you not admit you have a problem.

It all pretty much depends on the person. I believe in second chances, but only if you are willing to work for it, not wait for it to be handed to you.

My opinion of course.

Oh, and yes I love tea.
 
We don't have enough organs for everyone, so I think that people who have abused their bodies through something like drinking, should be a lower priority. And I think that is how it works anyway. If you're waiting for a transplant, then you have to be the cleanest you possibly can, or else they deny it to you. Hasn't anyone seen Scrubs?!


Anyway, there are benefits to allowing people to sell organs, but I think turning it into a market is dangerous. The main reason I can think is that people forced into debt for whatever reason might feel that their only option is to sell body parts.
 
Anyway, there are benefits to allowing people to sell organs, but I think turning it into a market is dangerous. The main reason I can think is that people forced into debt for whatever reason might feel that their only option is to sell body parts.

I don't see why it couldn't work as a set price incentive to help pay for time off work, painkillers and to encourage the donors. It would probably have to be paid by the government (say $3000 for a kidney) as most recipients couldn't afford it.
If the aim is to reimburse people then this would work without creating a market that blocks patients out.
 
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