sick of farcry fanboys

[dYiN]

The farcry fanboys are allways telling every1 that the engine gives better gfx than the hl2 engine . My opinion is that this is big shit ( also they never played it so ...) because hl2 just looks better to my eyes ( the movies of hl2 just look amazing , and those of farcry just look really nice ). what is your opinion ?

 

[The Brick]

Farcry is a great game (graphics and gameplay), but HL2 is way better in all aspects.

 

[Brian Damage]

HL2 looks better, at least from looking at the Binks... But I forsee some flaming in this thread...

 

[Mr.Magnetichead]

Farcry only looks great with everything set to its highest and running at high res.

The graphical scaleing sucks.

We also havn't seen Half Life 2's graphics in any kind of context.

We've had a few shorts videos and a very empty beta.

 

[ShinRa]

Uh...sweet post? Welcome. HL2 is far more advanced than Far cry, but to say far crys graphics arent good and plus uve never played the game you have no position to talk. try playing the game first before you get sick of the 'far cry' fanboys. because most of the fanboys are hl2 fanboys as well.

 

[Mr-Fusion]

Next gen game engine arguments

Welcome to infinity.

 

[Mr.Magnetichead]

Unreal Engine 3 kicks the shit out of EVERYTHING seen to date anyway.

 

[The Dark Elf]

Mr-Fusion, your sig is over the limit, fix it

Farcry bashing thread moved to general gaming

 

[mrchimp]

I say all talk of FC should be banned from this particular forum... not just threads like this but if somone mentions it in the HL2 section they get a months ban and have there post count put down to 0.

 

[sharp]

Far Cry engine is very good with gfx but with the water HL2 is superiour. Far Cry uses 3 shaders to create a 3D effect, HL2 only 1 shader and I must say the water in HL2 is more realistic then Far Cry. HL2 engine s better with facial animations, player
animations, physics, lightings and AI.

 

[Xenome]

Unreal Engine 3 kicks the shit out of EVERYTHING seen to date anyway.

Yes but games on it wont be released in 3 years, so it's pathetic to even mention it..

that like mentioning the source engine 3 years ago..

And far cry is a nice game with great graphics..but it's no match for half-life 2, and even the far cry fans will admit that, once hl2 is out

And far cry has nothing on halflife2..no further comment..

 

[Majestic XII]

You can only do islands with the sandbox editor...trying to build a "real" level would be hard as hell

(if you dont use a big model or something)

 

[Mountain Man]

Far Cry is overrated.

 

[Sprafa]

Far Cry is overrated.

yes. extremely overated. It's the new Unreal 2, no story, no gameplay (except KILLL!!!!, use the valve to stop the steam and get pass that hall), pure graphical wonder.

 

[Soundwave]

Yeah right. If anything Far Cry is overly bashed here. It's getting kind of sad. I think I should just steer clear of the threads mentioning Far Cry now.

 

[Mr.Magnetichead]

Yes but games on it wont be released in 3 years, so it's pathetic to even mention it..

that like mentioning the source engine 3 years ago..

And far cry is a nice game with great graphics..but it's no match for half-life 2, and even the far cry fans will admit that, once hl2 is out

Actually Epic say 2006 which starts in 19 months.

 

[The Brick]

Actually Epic say 2006 which starts in 19 months.

Have you ever heard of a game that never got delayed?

 

[mrchimp]

heh UE3 will look even better by then, what we saw in the tech video's were the second to lowest settings (r300 class cards being the lowest supported).

Anyway thats not what this thread is about, it's about FC and it's overatedness. Some of it felt just like the jungle scenes in SOF2 which isn't so bad but it's not that great either.

I know the rest of the FPS community is going mad over it (with exceptions) but then they went mad over MOH:AA. HL2 fans expect something else and probably something better.

FC is to HL2 as Rambo is to the Godfather 2. Nuff said.

EDIT: I might be wrong but RA2 came out early... actually I'm not sure but I know a C&C game has done.

 

[Lobster]

guys why should we pitch games against each other, the competative world of the gaming industry is a good thing, every time a great game comes out it makes the other devs buck up there ideas and improve what they have..

However in my personal opinion, it seems games of recent years have been concerntrating in singular areas, whether it be rendering, physics, multiplayer, large maps, vehicles etc etc, and because of this other features lose out, which does make gameplay a little dull somtimes, It does look to me like HL2 is achieving a good balance in all areas, and using the engine they do have to do some pretty cool and fun ideas.

Its good for the gaming industry cause successfull games like this improve the quality of future projects, I enjoyed far cry alot, it was a nice new use of tech, and im sure alot of its more impressive graphical features will become standard in the next gen titles, but when it comes to overall game design, and variety of styles and locations, i think the industry will be taking alot of ideas out of HL2, and hopefully companies will start not only making good engines, but good games to

Which is all good

 

[Mr.Magnetichead]

Have you ever heard of a game that never got delayed?

Yes.

Every ID game to date because they've never given dates.

 

[dYiN]

well , srry i made the post on the wrong foru m I just can't stand pll saying : - i won't buy hl2 , its so overhyped . OR I won't cuz the gfx will really suck . OR I won't cuz valve is stupid ..... etc . from what i have seen of hl2 and read of it , it is no match for any other fps game on the moment . ( a combination of much more than only gfx )

 

[clarky003]

yeh well who cares about those people, they'll be the ones loosing out at the end of the day dude

 

[The Brick]

Yeah people that say Valve hyped HL2 too much are a little dumb. The only thing Valve did is showing the E3 vids, not much further. We're the ones that hype the game.

 

[Soundwave]

I think anyone that thinks that about ANY of the big FPS out or already released are missing out, whether it's HL2 or not.

 

[Crushenator 500]

Have you ever heard of a game that never got delayed?

dont quote me on this, but im pretty sure that max payne 2 didnt get delayed.....

 

[x84D80Yx]

im a unreal 3 engine fanboy, i want you to be sick of me

 

[Mr.Magnetichead]

im a unreal 3 engine fanboy, i want you to be sick of me

Unreal Engine 3 not Unreal 3 Engine

 

[x84D80Yx]

but you understood what i ment, hate me more

 

[Letters]

Far Cry was certainly worth my 40 bucks.

 

[Bio]

Yeah but hl2 will probobly be more worth your 40 bucks.
And i have played far cry it was a good game but it was more entertaining to just see the hl2 vids.

 

[AmishSlayer]

Far Cry was certainly worth my 40 bucks.

Yeah right. If anything Far Cry is overly bashed here. It's getting kind of sad. I think I should just steer clear of the threads mentioning Far Cry now.

I agree with both statements.

When people say things like:

no gameplay (except KILLL!!!!, use the valve to stop the steam and get pass that hall)

I just have to point out...use this as an example: Press a button here; run around; kill some aliens; get to a lever or wheel; toggle that; go to a control room; kill some more aliens on the way; press a third button and burn a big bad guy to death...whee.

Sound familiar? Half-Life. I'm not bashing HL1's gameplay or anything (I'm totally fine with that style of flow through a game)...but think about what you're saying when you talk about how simplistic goals and gameplay can be in Far Cry and such games. Half-Life wasn't much different...and everyone seems to hold it up on such a high pedestal...like it's untouchable to critisicm or something. THAT'S what bugs me on these forums.

 

[Soundwave]

Amish, thanks. I was gonna reply to that gameplay comment earlier but what I would have said would have most likely gotten me banned.

What really gets me is some people here act like Half-Life 2 isn't going to have that EXACT kind of stuff. Sure, there's a couple of new features, but really, it's going to be just like other FPS except you can use a weapon to toss chairs at people. All FPS are run and shoot, with some other objectives mixed in. wtf are people expecting out of Half-Life 2 if they bash Far Cry for being "run and shoot, push lever, use valve etc". That's ALL FPS. That's why it's called a first-person SHOOTER

 

[famas_man]

Sure, hl2 will have that. It will also have a lot more. I'm going to try to make a mod and I plan to take advantage of the physics system. For example a fully functional catapult (working rope tention, a release mechanism, wheels, and calculated shots depending on the mass of projectile you're using.)

I doubt you can do that with far cry, and I wouldnt classify that as just pushing a button.

 

[Soundwave]

That definately sounds cool, but I'm talking about the core HL2 single player campaign. I'm sure modmakers are gonna come up with some kickass stuff like what you will be doing.

 

[famas_man]

Yeah, I guess you're right about that. From what I've seen so far the sp does seem to be leaving a lot of the cool stuff for mods. On the other hand they may surprise us.

 

[ComradeBadger]

Amish, thanks. I was gonna reply to that gameplay comment earlier but what I would have said would have most likely gotten me banned.

What really gets me is some people here act like Half-Life 2 isn't going to have that EXACT kind of stuff. Sure, there's a couple of new features, but really, it's going to be just like other FPS except you can use a weapon to toss chairs at people. All FPS are run and shoot, with some other objectives mixed in. wtf are people expecting out of Half-Life 2 if they bash Far Cry for being "run and shoot, push lever, use valve etc". That's ALL FPS. That's why it's called a first-person SHOOTER

Banned for pointing out a stupid comment. Not likely

Anyway, I'm going to buy Far Cry soon, I hope, it's right after Ut2004 on my want list

 

[Gorgon]

Unreal Engine 3 kicks the shit out of EVERYTHING seen to date anyway.

I agree.

FarCry vs HL2 = Ferrari vs McLaren F1

they both sexy, and fast but both got diffrent experience. :E

 

[KagePrototype]

[EDIT]: I'm going to title this rant "sick of fanboys in general"

The great thing about Far Cry is that there's a suprising amount of freedom involved. It's not the sort of freedom you'd expect from something like Deus Ex, it's more of a tactical freedom. For example, you could sneak onto that boat, drive down to the beach and kill eveyone in a huge blast of gunfire and explosions; or you could snipe those explosive barrels from afar taking most of them out, and then sneak past everyone else; or you could divert their attention one by one around a corner with a rock and silently kill them...it's a lot more freedom than most FPS games have.

But in reality, I think the one thing that sets it apart from most other games is the incredible amount of immersion the game creates. If you're going to play the game with a cynical attitude, you're not going to like it, because you'll just point out that it's an unoriginal game. This is true, there aren't that many new features in it. But then again, Half-Life didn't have that many new features in it either. The biggest thing that everyone enjoyed about Half-Life was how involved you got in the gameplay. Let face it, the story was pure garbage. The only interesting part of it was the whole conspiracy side to it, and even that had been done to death by other forms of media. It was the way it made you feel that you were Gordon Freeman, i the middle of this huge crisis, that was so inviting about it. It's the same thing with Far Cry; the game absorbs you into it's world, as long as you let it.

Hell, why do we have to argue over such trivial things? I find it funny that a lot of people are slamming far cry fanboys because they slam HL, yet at the exact same time they are praising HL2 for all it's worth, and then some. "The graphics are better in HL2 because there's more stuff" or "the gameplay will be more innovative in HL2, and so Far Cry is bad" or "Far Cry is completely unoriginal, and is therefore worse than HL2". I've mentioned this point on a number of boards (and find it increasingly frustrating that I have to keep raising it over and over), but what happened to basing a game on how much fun it is? Some people are so wound up in their own excitment for a certain game that they become the most arrogant people on the planet and block out everything else. Look at Painkiller. That's hardly original at all, but it's damned fun to play. Hell, Commander Keen is still fun to play for me.

Urgh, somehow my opinion on Far Cry has turned into a rant against fanboys and pointless arguing. My bad. :-/

 

[torso boy]

All of those people are like..."Oh, im boycotting hl2 because it was delayed!" but they didn't do that for any other game....you know why...because nobody cared about the other games.

 

[Sprafa]

HL to the time had great gameplay, but I agree that to today's standards it's pretty much surpassed. That doesn't justifies FC. I agree that the upper rant may be a little over-the-top, since FC does has great AI.
But I really don't like the fact they increase the damage to increase difficulty....it just shows lack of inovation.