so whats your opinion on the killzone2 video

[<RJMC>]

I vote "cant decide cuz are things that say is in-game and things that say is prerendered"

 

[Neutrino]

I wish it were in game but I'm quite sure it was pre-rendered.

 

[joule]

It's been said to be pre-rendered, but it still looks damn beautiful.

 

[Lemonking]

its prerenderd....but If epic says the PS3 is capable of doing that what is shown in the vid Im happy and Halo 2.5 and 5 can go **** themselves

 

[smwScott]

I believe that it is rendered real time using the same engine that Killzone will use and obviously PS3 hardware, but the entire video is scripted all the way down to player movement. In other words it's a tech demo, pretty much what you would expect to see at a tradeshow.

 

[lePobz]

pre-rendered propaganda to get a fan following ... if they released realtime footage of the games in the state they are in now (and the hardware) they would definately not have any fan following.

 

[satch919]

A beautifully pre-rendered work of art. :thumbs:

 

[Ames]

Prerendered. Sony kicked ass with the hype machine.

 

[<RJMC>]

pre-rendered propaganda to get a fan following ... if they released realtime footage of the games in the state they are in now (and the hardware) they would definately not have any fan following.

and what make you think that

epic say that they showed the U3engine in the ps3 and looked good and IMO anything that will runs the U3engine will hav a fan following

 

[Murray_H]

Prerendered but possible....you guessed it, it's that link time again!

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/615/615178p1.html

By the time I die, I want everyone on this forum to have read that. Twice.

 

[Cole]

It's prerendered..but if it is capable of that gfx and all that...then... I want my....precious...

 

[lePobz]

and what make you think that

epic say that they showed the U3engine in the ps3 and looked good and IMO anything that will runs the U3engine will hav a fan following

I didn't say the hardware won't be able to make that a reality, i'm just saying that the current state of the hardware and the current state of the software can definately not make that a reality just yet. They've got a lot of time between now and release day though... Time will tell.

There's no doubt in my mind that all these movies are pre-rendered though.

 

[<RJMC>]

I didn't say the hardware won't be able to make that a reality, i'm just saying that the current state of the hardware and the current state of the software can definately not make that a reality just yet. They've got a lot of time between now and release day though... Time will tell.

There's no doubt in my mind that all these movies are pre-rendered though.

still we should consider that this all is next gen,compare the current consoles to the ps1 and n64,it was a huge advance
so I think we should be a litle open minded to everything until we got it in our hands

 

[Icarusintel]

like i've said before, PS3 games will look like that, it'll just happena couple years after its been out, like the games we're seeing now on the PS2, once they've got the coding down the things we will see will be absolutely amazing

 

[Malfunction]

Choice two, for the sheer fact that Epic games only had the PS3 hardware, for what was it, 2 weeks or 2 months, and they managed to make an amazingly beautiful tech demo showing off the Unreal 3 Engine, so if the Killzone 2 team had enough time, or any quality development team, I'd feel somewhat confident that that quality could, in fact, be achieved. I mean, have you guys read what's inside the PS3? I mean, day-um!

 

[torso boy]

pre-rendered propaganda to get a fan following ... if they released realtime footage of the games in the state they are in now (and the hardware) they would definately not have any fan following.

You mean like the rest of the games they showed besides Killzone. Because I personally thought almost all of them were impressive.

 

[OCybrManO]

They should change the name of the PS3 to "Deep Thought." I'd buy it.

 

[chu]

They should change the name of the PS3 to "Deep Thought." I'd buy it.

Then I would buy the console that it creates.

 

[Murray_H]

Then I would buy the console that it creates.

Only to have it blown up by Vogons a few seconds before it Killzone loads

 

[OCybrManO]

Then I would buy the console that it creates.

Yeah, I'll see you in a few million years...

... or are we already playing a game on the console created by Deep Thought? :rolling: If so, this game sucks!

 

[Agent.M]

The video itself that is out now and that we have all seen may be pre-rendered however there is no doubt in my mind that through the power of cell and rsx (as well as 360) that this video could not eventually become reality and become what actual in game footage will look like later on down the road!

 

[gh0st]

games will have that quality, most likely, on all the new consoles. just let the devs do their thing

 

[BRODIEMAN2k4]

Prerendered, but I wouldn't be suprised if they can pull that off

 

[BRODIEMAN2k4]

Once they started shooting people it was obviously prerendered. If it was ingame they would have been ragdolls

 

[dream431ca]

what about the unreal 3 engine demo.. that was not pre-rendered and it looked like killzone if not better than killzone. They froze the video and moved around the video in real-time. That freaked me out because it was not pre-rendered.

 

[Sparta]

Wasn't that on the Xbox360 though?

 

[gh0st]

yeah GoW looked almost as good as the bullshit sony tried to pass off to gullible fans as actual gameplay.

 

[Burn]

Look back when Ps1 came out, remember the games, tomb raider 1? Wipeout? Those where the worst looking piles of crap ever... compaired to the ones that came out later.

Killzone is prerendered, we now know this, but that doesnt mean its not possable, that doesnt mean sony is lieing to you, and it does not mean the ps3 is just a big cover up story.

Only been a day and Im sick of you silly little people running around the forum like headless chickens because a company dared to show Prerendered game footage I mean, my god no one but pretty much every freaking game company making a trailer for there game before has done that!

This all stinks of Valves E3, when they "Faked" the AI and stuff in HL2, but sure as hell when it came out it was real. That shut up the headless chickens.

 

[gh0st]

Only been a day and Im sick of you silly little people running around the forum like headless chickens because a company dared to show Prerendered game footage I mean, my god no one but pretty much every freaking game company making a trailer for there game before has done that!

No I'm just saying there should be a balance between stuff designed to pump you up, with things that are actual. None of you know whats possible on ps3, neither do I. I'd be amazed if they were anything like what was shown at their conference (aside from the in game footage, which was not all that impressive). Microsoft did this, I dont think they expected sonys marketing to be so absurd. I cant remember a time when, basically, ONLY this prerendered shit was shown at one of these conferences. Basically they built up this huge hype and when it came out (As with the ps2) people were not blown away. Especially me. Hoepfully they prove me wrong this time.

 

[Burn]

gh0st, just why is it so hard to beileve? You know how powerfull the console is. Like its been said, look at n64 compaired to say the gamecube, a huge leap in terms of graphics and power.

I can see what people mean, the killzone video does look prerendered, and its a shame that there is no ingame video, but all these people saying "There was no ingame video THEREFORE ITS FAKE" are just being a tad silly. Pretty much the same as saying "I dont see any rocks around, therefore they dont exist". We will have to wait till there ingame footage.

 

[gh0st]

gh0st, just why is it so hard to beileve? You know how powerfull the console is. Like its been said, look at n64 compaired to say the gamecube, a huge leap in terms of graphics and power.

The consoles are very similar in power. I believe they are both capable of relatively the same graphics; hopefully the games will set them apart.

I can see what people mean, the killzone video does look prerendered, and its a shame that there is no ingame video, but all these people saying "There was no ingame video THEREFORE ITS FAKE" are just being a tad silly. Pretty much the same as saying "I dont see any rocks around, therefore they dont exist". We will have to wait till there ingame footage.

Oh.. i dont think its fake. I'm sure Killzone will look fantastic, just like a great many xbox 360 games. I dont like these fanboys spouting this as though its actualy what they are going to see: it isnt. If its graphics were that similar, they wouldnt have needed to pre render it.

 

[Burn]

Im not a fanboy, fanboi, fangirl or fangrrl. Whatever stupid little name people give others.

Ive yet to even watch the Nintendo or microsoft footage, so I cant comment on anything about the xbox.

But what I said few posts back.... companys hardly EVER use ingame footage for trailers. This is like people watching an fmv for somthing new on ps2 and going "What the hell?? It wont look like that!". Killzone video looked like it was using the ingame engine, but the player and other things, the other marines, there paths, who they killed etc was made to show a good trailer.

We know ragdolls as possable, yes? Theres no need to say "That man falling over the rail? THATS IMPOSSABLE!"

We also know cloth will act pretty well perfectly in the next gen of games, no reason to think thats fake.

The graphics themselves have allready been said by Epic to be possable.

So..why do people think its fake? Happy to let people think its prerendered, sure it is. But why fake?

 

[Tr0n]

Who gives a damn?

It was ****ing awsome and that's all that matters.

 

[Burn]

Who gives a damn?

People need somthing to whine and cry about... by the looks of things. Cant they just go back to trying to prove the moon landing didnt happan, Tr0n?

 

[gh0st]

I never said its fake, i never said ragdolls are impossible, I never said the cloth performance was fake. Whats possible isnt always whats presented, but I'll give sony the benefit of the doubt. Like I said, I'm waiting for the floor performance of this game. I bet it will contrast sharply with thats presented (this is the one sentence sum of my feelings on the subject), especially given the rather lackluster performance of the other games (those that were actually shown in game).

 

[qckbeam]

I never said its fake, i never said ragdolls are impossible, I never said the cloth performance was fake. Whats possible isnt always whats presented, but I'll give sony the benefit of the doubt. Like I said, I'm waiting for the floor performance of this game. I bet it will contrast sharply with thats presented (this is the one sentence sum of my feelings on the subject), especially given the rather lackluster performance of the other games (those that were actually shown in game).

UE3 was in-game footage...and it was absolutely incredible...

 

[Burn]

I never said its fake, i never said ragdolls are impossible, I never said the cloth performance was fake. Whats possible isnt always whats presented, but I'll give sony the benefit of the doubt. Like I said, I'm waiting for the floor performance of this game. I bet it will contrast sharply with thats presented (this is the one sentence sum of my feelings on the subject), especially given the rather lackluster performance of the other games (those that were actually shown in game).

Just look at the footage of U3 that was shown..in real time.

 

[Tr0n]

People need somthing to whine and cry about... by the looks of things. Cant they just go back to trying to prove the moon landing didnt happan, Tr0n?

Wait, the moon landing actually happened? :O

Anyways...even if the vid is real or it isn't...killzone 2 still has my money and so does the ps3.

Now I need a job...

 

[gh0st]

UE3 was in-game footage...and it was absolutely incredible...

Yeah the UE3 engine will be on both consoles, its not a selling point at this point. We all know about Gow, etc, etc its not a big deal.

 

[Burn]

Yeah the UE3 engine will be on both consoles, its not a selling point at this point. We all know about Gow, etc, etc its not a big deal.

Um.... Killzone looked pretty much as good, not better then U3.

U3 was showen to run in real time. Thus..surely, Killzone can run like that in real time?