Sony Announces $300-400 PS3 Packed With Movies And Games!

[Kschreck]

Sony’s strategy includes $300-400 PS3, pre-loaded content on PS3, and new portable video players

The PlayStation 3 is expected to cost between $300 and $400, according to a new data point buried deep in an article in the Hollywood Reporter about Sony’s overall business strategy. In addition to the PS3 price hint, there are some other interesting factoids in the article:

* Sony will be releasing new portable media player devices that “will focus primarily on video and transferring user-selected content from digital video recorders and other devices using Sony Memory Sticks”
* The Sony PlayStation business is worth approximately $20 billion out of Sony Entertainments’s entire $37 billion valuation. (The entire company rakes in $65 billion per year.)
* The PS3 is a Blu-ray trojan horse. According to an anonymous ”high-level studio executive,” the PS3 will be a “subsidized Blu-ray play that will sell 20 million units. The first HD player will be on the market for $1,000. PS3 could be at $300 or $400. Sony will be selling them at a loss the first six months to a year just to get Blu-ray players out in the market. So studios realize they need to have their content on it.”
* ”PS3 will be bundled with a selection of preloaded films, TV programs and games”

The Articles:


http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000220066600/

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001393147


If this is real then Sony has just won the next gen console race and this is not debatable. Sony can include movies because they MAKE the movies so they don't have to pay for licensing. The same goes for games and other exclusive content. Also since Sony will be making Blu-Ray players they will be able to get them extremely cheaply. I now see Sony's stragedy and if this is real then theres nothing Microsoft can do to stop this.

 

[<RJMC>]

sure there is something hide to trick the people

 

[Teta_Bonita]

Great, now I don't know what console to buy again.

 

[AmishSlayer]

!!! if that's real I'm surprised. $300-400 is way cheaper than I expected.

 

[Qonfused]

I've always been behind the PlayStation and I still plan to this generation. This news just sweetens the pot.

 

[JellyWorld]

I would love Sony if not for their ****ing DRM.

 

[CptStern]

if this article is true sony stands to lose between $100 - $200 per machine

 

[JNightshade]

If this is real then Sony has just won the next gen console race and this is not debatable.

pshh. what a joke. everything is debatable! but besides that, all this really doesn't apply to nintendo's Revolution. so far, that's easily my favourite console. Of course, I'll probably end up buying a PS3 in the end, but still.

 

[VirusType2]

The Articles:


http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000220066600/

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001393147


If this is real then Sony has just won the next gen console race and this is not debatable. Sony can include movies because they MAKE the movies so they don't have to pay for licensing. The same goes for games and other exclusive content. Also since Sony will be making Blu-Ray players they will be able to get them extremely cheaply. I now see Sony's stragedy and if this is real then theres nothing Microsoft can do to stop this.

Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? Ya sony also got people to make movies onto their PSP player, so what?

Maybe this is another failing media type Sony invented? DAT player? Mini Disc player? Does anyone remember these? Sure, Since sony invents Blu ray, they put it in their playstation3, they sell the PS3 for 400$ at a loss, and charge $1000 for a Blu Ray player. so what would you buy? a 400$ machine that plays HD movies and PS3 games? or a 1000$ machine that only plays High Defenition (HD) movies but not PS3 games. Sure its a good plan. Sony isn't about to do an Atari. Or are they? But, does anyone with a brain think that $1000 is a fair price for a Blu Ray player (basicaly a DVD player with all movies being HD). the drive only costs $70 and will cost less as time goes on. the Cell processor costs about 160$. thats $230, and that cost goes down over time. they are basically making everyone pay $770 for the case, buttons and remote.

I remember when a DVD recorder was $1000 a few years ago, when it came out. Now i can get one for 150$ at wal*mart

Im in no hurry to jump on another media type. If they get tons of support and they put the extra storage space on the blu ray to use, and make it worth it, then maybe one day. I am happy to say that I think this is going to fail. the amount of People that might buy a PS3 to play HD movies is very small in America. The HD TV's aren't in very many peoples homes yet.
Well, we will see what happens in the future. If they can sell me a PS3 for $150 way down the line, then that might be worth considering, but Im in the market for a video game player, not another dvd player. I don't even use the 5 DVD players i own as it is. i just use my PC usually.

Every Xbox 360 game is in HD anyway

And does anyone want Sony to have this much control? To own all rights to the main media type of the future? That means they have everyone who buys any kind of video media balls in their hand. Any video game machine made by anyone other than sony won't be able to play movies on blu ray discs. Like i would care anyway, i dont use my PS2 or Xbox to play movies anyway, so why would i use my 360

Im sorry but i dont want sony getting a cut every time i buy a movie or game.
We need a neutral company to invent the next media type.
That way anyone can make the drives and discs. you could buy a disc player that's comparable to the blu ray technology made in china by some off-brand company. This forces competition and low prices.

The PS3 processor is basically a Hi Def DVD player processor. Most info i have been reading points to the x360 being better for games

Dual layer DVDs are fine with me. so what. put the extra content on a 2nd disc, like Lord of the rings movie did. The making of the movie and all that

they say 299-399 . they mean 399. lol. then they make up for it. you need a memory card? sure 60$. you need another controller? sure 50$, but you have to buy an adaptor to play 2 players! the system only supports 1 controller, unless you buy the mult-tap. how much is that? 50$? lol. I wonder if they were nice enough to give you a modem this time or thats another 50$ right?

Oh, and I love how everyone says the cell processor will be able to have "much greater A.I." lol Funny! The cars on Gran Tourismo4 drive with the AI from Gran Tourismo 1. they are practically oblivious to your exsistance and will just drive right into you. I would say the A.I. is up to the programers.

 

[Raziaar]

* The Sony PlayStation business is worth approximately $20 billion out of Sony Entertainments’s entire $37 billion valuation. (The entire company rakes in $65 billion per year.)



Man... thats crazy... 65 billion per year? Seems like such a low number, for a mega corporation... Seems oil companies like Exxon Mobile make like that much in a single quarterly earnings report.

 

[VirusType2]

* The Sony PlayStation business is worth approximately $20 billion out of Sony Entertainments’s entire $37 billion valuation. (The entire company rakes in $65 billion per year.)



Man... thats crazy... 65 billion per year? Seems like such a low number, for a mega corporation... Seems oil companies like Exxon Mobile make like that much in a single quarterly earnings report.

I don't think the alleged 65$ billion a year is profit. Oil companies making 65$ billion 4 times a year. profit.

Gas prices are coming down becuase they have been exposed

 

[destrukt]

If this is real then Sony has just won the next gen console race and this is not debatable.

you can debate it, and not just mindlessly.

noone will know until both are released and have been out for 1+ year respectively, until than it's just rumours, biased opinions and fanboys ranting.

 

[VirusType2]

Ya and you know a CD's & DVDs cost pennies to make $0.03 thats why we can buy movies for 4.99 in the bargain bin and 19.99 or 14.99 when they are just released.

Get ready to pay 10$ for a blu ray disc. A movie on a blu ray might cost 29.99.

no thank you, ill just buy a dual layer DVD High def movie for 15$ thanks

 

[CptStern]

I don't think the alleged 65$ billion a year is profit. Oil companies making 65$ billion 4 times a year. profit.

Gas prices are coming down becuase they have been exposed

no gas prices have come down becauses there's a surplus ...supply and demand

 

[VirusType2]

no gas prices have come down becauses there's a surplus ...supply and demand

this thread for this but no, i just saw it on the news. they are price gouging. and .. surplus? theres a surplus now? A couple months ago we were dipping into our nations reserves. I don't believe it

Oh and i just remembered the other media type sony invented besides the Mini-Disc. the DAT. Digital audio type (i think) i mean this was another flop was it not?

 

[boglito]

The Articles:


http://www.joystiq.com/entry/1234000220066600/

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001393147


If this is real then Sony has just won the next gen console race and this is not debatable. Sony can include movies because they MAKE the movies so they don't have to pay for licensing. The same goes for games and other exclusive content. Also since Sony will be making Blu-Ray players they will be able to get them extremely cheaply. I now see Sony's stragedy and if this is real then theres nothing Microsoft can do to stop this.

Unless you can actually choose which games and movies to get preloaded onto your ps3 that feature is pretty much useless. "The legend of zorro" wouldnt make a ps3 one bit more atractive for me.

.bog.

 

[Absinthe]

Sorry, this means nothing to me. 360 still looks more appealing.

omg teh blu-ray?!?! The way I see it, Sony is jamming their console full of so much crap that's never going to be utilized. I remember the original Xbox discs were made to hold an assload of information, but in the end they only had a handful of games that made use of all that space. Blu-Ray does not seem like technology worth investing in at this point.

I'm not bothering with movies on my console any way. I don't see how PS3 has won anything yet.

 

[Direwolf]

Well we already knew the Blu-Ray was there. No surprise at all. And as for the preloaded stuff, what does that mean to someone who bought it to play games? I already have a movie collection, why does my PS3 need to come with its own movies that I can't play on anything else?

 

[VictimOfScience]

If this thread proves to be true, then its all just gravy for anyone thinking of purchasing a PS3. It sounds like a great deal to me. And Sony has already issued a fix for that insidious DRM debacle, so they clearly know that this sort of thing won't be as easy or tolerated in the future. I think before Blu-Ray is finalized, there will be some alterations made to the security measures found therein. Gates and the HD-DVD camp admit that this is the only real issue of debate between the two format camps at this point--not costs or storage space or anything else--so there may be some very serious decisions made between both camps.

The PS3 processor is basically a Hi Def DVD player processor. Most info i have been reading points to the x360 being better for games

You're reading the wrong info then. Its not that the 360 is better for games, its that it is really best suited for games. The Cell is a much more complete package in terms of its potential functionality. Don't believe me? Don't take my word for it, try starting here. Then maybe check this.

Dual layer DVDs are fine with me. so what. put the extra content on a 2nd disc, like Lord of the rings movie did. The making of the movie and all that

I, for one, have never liked how many dual-disc and quad-disc sets there continue to be in the market. If I can have all of this data available on one disc, then I am all for it.

 

[Gray Fox]

Blu-ray Disc Association is the succesor of Blu-ray Disc Founders

HD DVD

In any case as you can see, the blua ray may have been developed outside of the DVD forum, but it has actually more companies behind it thne HD DVD.
The only thing is that blua ray disc may be more prone to damage from scratches then HD DVD.

But apart from that, 'cmon people how can any of you be exited about the xbox360 or ps3. I can understand that you will eventually want to buy them cause they offer as much power as a 5000 dollar pc. But 'cmon but beeing this exited about them is reduculus. I was just amazed at the amount of lazyness from MS an Sony, there was absolutely nothing exiting or new about the presentation.

I mean you would think they would make two original products to differentiet from the competition. Lets take MS for example, they have had big succed with halo, they could have made a controlelr with a small touch sensetive square pad, where, where you put your thumb the crosshair on the screen would move to to the corresponding position which would make aiming way easier. Now I know this is probably a faulthy idea, but seriously there are plenty of good game enhancing ideas out there.
In any case, their consoles are pretty similar, so the only way they can outdue each other is to cut the price, cause there isn't much else that makes them that different. in any case use that to your advantage. Don't buy them on release, wait make them cut their price more. It's their own fault.

 

[StardogChampion]

Sony doesn't need all of this to sell their console. The name Playstation alone is enough for it to win the race.

 

[Gray Fox]

Sony doesn't need all of this to sell their console. The name Playstation alone is enough for it to win the race.

Thats not true. If that were teh case then the N64 would have outsold the PSX.
What matters most are the games.

 

[VirusType2]

Blu-ray Disc Association is the succesor of Blu-ray Disc Founders

HD DVD

In any case as you can see, the blua ray may have been developed outside of the DVD forum, but it has actually more companies behind it thne HD DVD.
The only thing is that blua ray disc may be more prone to damage from scratches then HD DVD.

But apart from that, 'cmon people how can any of you be exited about the xbox360 or ps3. I can understand that you will eventually want to buy them cause they offer as much power as a 5000 dollar pc. But 'cmon but beeing this exited about them is reduculus. I was just amazed at the amount of lazyness from MS an Sony, there was absolutely nothing exiting or new about the presentation.

I mean you would think they would make two original products to differentiet from the competition. Lets take MS for example, they have had big succed with halo, they could have made a controlelr with a small touch sensetive square pad, where, where you put your thumb the crosshair on the screen would move to to the corresponding position which would make aiming way easier. Now I know this is probably a faulthy idea, but seriously there are plenty of good game enhancing ideas out there.
In any case, their consoles are pretty similar, so the only way they can outdue each other is to cut the price, cause there isn't much else that makes them that different. in any case use that to your advantage. Don't buy them on release, wait make them cut their price more. It's their own fault.

So this is basically a Disc format war. it looks like both types: HD DVD and Blu Ray are both receiving alot of support. with Dual and triple layer HD DVD, don't you think thats enough space on the disc? i mean, with dual its what? 30GB and thats what Xbox 360 can use right? and blu ray single layer is ~50GB and they don't have a dual layer format yet, but can most likely make that at least which would be like 100GB

On space alone, the obvious choice is the blu ray.

But when you take into consideration the manufacturing cost of the drive being about twice as much, and the discs costing about 1000 times as much and these discs are easily scratched. Sure! Sony would love for you to scratch more delicate disc so you have to buy it again! yay, sell 2 copies to everyone. I doubt they will find much use for all that space besides for thier Blu ray cam-corders. And again, why not use HD DVD's? they are going to charge about 10$ for a stupid blu ray disc when a HD disc costs a few cents. So what would you rather have (not doing the math here) 50 dual layer HD DVD's to make home movies with, or for 10$ or 1 blu ray disc?! LOL

and they want to design blu ray walkmans?! lol maybe they haven't heard of MP3 players using Ram and harddrives? probably not becuase when i was choosing an MP3 player i saw Sony still trying to sell their stupid Mini-Disc player.

In my opinion, the type of discs we are currently using scratch easy enough!

I don't trust Sony. They are doing all kinds of questionable things like damaging malware, that renders your DVD recorder unusable.

Bunch of crooks in my opinion

I mean, companies need to come to a common ground on the future media type. its DVD R DVD RW DVD R- DVDRW+ DVD R-- DV... for example. WTF? PICK one good type and everyone jump on. come to some common terms. a compromise. its getting a little rediculous.

And yes. Technology is huge in japan. they don't have a space program, they seem to have some sort of robot program. THey loooove technology. but to me, it's just a bunch of gadgets and gimmicks that are a waste of money. they need to do more research before they put the cost of all this crap on us.

Im not trying to stifel innovation, but they are droping hardware on us that isn't fully developed and researched. reminds me of nintendo's robo-rob http://www.gamer-talk.net/images/article/editorials/matt/rob-robot.jpg this thing got used for only the one game it came with!, yet to buy a NES it came bundled with the system when the NES was released. wasting everyones money, including nintendo's. ...or that other nintendo thing Virtual Boy http://rjbs.manxome.org/images/gaming/vbn-3.jpg
I say save the innovation for the software.

Since Wolfenstein and Doom1 I have been dying for the most sur-realistic First person shooter, and other types of games. with the extreme power the hardware these new Consoles provide, they can not only reach that goal, they can do it at a price obtainable by many! Thats what the excitement is about

So whatever, if you are reading this, you are obviously a huge video game fanatic. PS3, PSP, Xbox360, Revolution, whatever. Choose your poison, and lets see some great games!


I just want a video game powerhouse, and the super smooth online play is a huge bonus. And that, my friends is why i am very excited about the Xbox360.

 

[Cole]

its DVD R DVD RW DVD R- DVDRW+ DVD R-- DV... for example. WTF? PICK one good type and everyone jump on. come to some common terms. a compromise. its getting a little rediculous.

DVD R's can only be written to once.
DVD Rw's can be rewritten to.
And I don't give a shit about the + and -.

But when you take into consideration the manufacturing cost of the drive being about twice as much, and the discs costing about 1000 times as much and these discs are easily scratched.

Both HD and Blu-ray are not easier to scratch but when scratch the scratches are much more harmful. This is because the laser has to be closer to the disc, and the laser has to detect a much smaller area for both of them. It just so happens that the Blu-Ray one is a little bit closer.
Another thing with Blu-Ray is that it also has much faster read-times than Hd. This is very important. I mean it's so important to Nintendo that they wouldn't go with CD's with the N64 cuz of load times(No load times on 64, load times on Ps) and gamecube had specially designed smaller DVD's(Load times on Ps2\Xbox, none on Gamecube).

I mean overall, Blu-Ray does offer more. Depending on what the discs are made out of, scratching on Blu-Ray may be less. But each scratch means more. It is somewhat a big thing, but not a massive horrible thing where if you breath on the disc it will break apart, or if you drop it on your floor it will shatter.
If you just keep it safe, and don't get bored and take your nail and start scratching it then it will be just fine.

 

[Warbie]

Thats not true. If that were teh case then the N64 would have outsold the PSX.
What matters most are the games.

Obviously not

 

[Gray Fox]

Obviously not

Did I just get Nintendowned.

 

[OCybrManO]

So this is basically a Disc format war. it looks like both types: HD DVD and Blu Ray are both receiving alot of support. with Dual and triple layer HD DVD, don't you think thats enough space on the disc? i mean, with dual its what? 30GB and thats what Xbox 360 can use right?

Wrong. AFAIK, the Xbox 360 is only shipping with dual-layer DVD support, not HD-DVD. Most rumors otherwise are usually based around a misquoted statement by Bill Gates in which he says they are looking into potentially replacing it with an HD-DVD drive somewhere down the road, in later models of the 360. So, IIRC, that leaves it with a maximum capacity of 9GB.

 

[Warbie]

Did I just get Nintendowned.

hehe - damnright!

(sorry )

 

[Icarusintel]

Wrong. AFAIK, the Xbox 360 is only shipping with dual-layer DVD support, not HD-DVD. Most rumors otherwise are usually based around a misquoted statement by Bill Gates in which he says they are looking into potentially replacing it with an HD-DVD drive somewhere down the road, in later models of the 360. So, IIRC, that leaves it with a maximum capacity of 9GB.

wow, only 9 GB compared to 50 GB? Hmmm... Microsoft really dropped the ball on not putting HD-DVD support in there

 

[Whezzy]

Dual layer DVDs are fine with me. so what. put the extra content on a 2nd disc, like Lord of the rings movie did. The making of the movie and all that

Programmers do not need the space of Blu-ray for "Extra content" they need it for the game. For next Gen games 9gb's can cause some major restrictions.

you need a memory card? sure 60$. you need another controller? sure 50$, but you have to buy an adaptor to play 2 players! the system only supports 1 controller, unless you buy the mult-tap. how much is that? 50$? lol. I wonder if they were nice enough to give you a modem this time or thats another 50$ right?

Memory cards at least in sony's protary flash format are a thing of the past, they have moved onto other formats (Hard drive, Memory sticks) Better storage support than M$ Provides. And the controllers are wirelesss and support more than 1 player.

Oh, and I love how everyone says the cell processor will be able to have "much greater A.I." lol Funny! The cars on Gran Tourismo4 drive with the AI from Gran Tourismo 1. they are practically oblivious to your exsistance and will just drive right into you. I would say the A.I. is up to the programers.

Yes however the Programers are restericted to the power of the Processor(s)
You would not see Goldeneye on the N64 Having the A.I. of F.E.A.R. becuase of a lack of power.

 

[The Mullinator]

Yes however the Programers are restericted to the power of the Processor(s)
You would not see Goldeneye on the N64 Having the A.I. of F.E.A.R. becuase of a lack of power.

From what I understand the power of the system will certainly dictate how good the AI can be, however the real problem right now isn't a lack of pure processing power but a lack of knowledge and time to develop better AI. Remember top scientists from around the world are working on these problems and they still havn't been able to do too much better than your average game developer for a lot of things.

 

[Gray Fox]

Wait the ps3 will have standard wireless controllers. I don't like the sound of that, judging by past experiences with sony and batteries chough*PSP*chough.

 

[Cole]

Programmers do not need the space of Blu-ray for "Extra content" they need it for the game. For next Gen games 9gb's can cause some major restrictions.

The good thing baout Blu-Ray is though, that we may some day need such extra space.

 

[Qonfused]

9GB is going to be a HUGE limitation. EverQuest 2 takes up 7GB already... and that came out a year and a half ago?

 

[VirusType2]

9GB is going to be a HUGE limitation. EverQuest 2 takes up 7GB already... and that came out a year and a half ago?

But that game is abnormally huge dude. and it could still be put on more than one disc. I wonder if they could use some data compresion ?

Anyway im not arguing the fact it would be great if the discs had alot more space. Currently, when i weigh all the pro's and con's. I prefer the dual layer HD DVD format over the Blu ray format. 30GB is alot also and is cheaper and more durable. I think discs need to be more scratch resistant, not less. remember large and small floppy discs? why did they drop this idea of having the discs encased in a protective sleave? to save money i assume... i say bring it back