Stalkers and their modifications

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If any of you have noclipped and seen stalkers up close, you've seen the extent of their modifications performed by the combine. From what I can tell, they've had their feet and hands chopped off, and have had several organs removed. Now, maybe organ removal can be somehow compensated for with technology, but how the hell do they expect to have stalkers function properly when they can barely keep their balance and lack the ability to hold anything at all?
 
The Combine themselves are depentant on technology.
Would seem the same for the Stalkers. The Stalkers have additions applied to their arm stubs. If they're purpose is to weld. They have a welder. Ect, Ect.

I pity the poor bastards. They could possibly be telepathic as well. Who knows.
 
the overwatch have some interesting stuff too... yadda yadda throat plug..everyone's seen that...but they also have their parietal lobes half-removed...makes me think their sensory organs have been replaced with new tech or something
also they have a ?plastic? collar on their necks
very odd
also, on the fully clothed overwatch soldiers, the black and blue ones, you'll see they seem to have some sort of crystal antenna on their helmets
piezoelectric or something? blargh
 
jimmyjam said:
the overwatch have some interesting stuff too... yadda yadda throat plug..everyone's seen that...but they also have their parietal lobes half-removed...makes me think their sensory organs have been replaced with new tech or something
also they have a ?plastic? collar on their necks
very odd
Maybe its equivalent to the vortigaunts ones, they've both been made into slavve/warriors, willing to follow any order, so it'd make sense

jimmyjam said:
also, on the fully clothed overwatch soldiers, the black and blue ones, you'll see they seem to have some sort of crystal antenna on their helmets
piezoelectric or something? blargh
Why Would they have piezoelectric antenna?
 
*whips out raising the bar*

They rip out all the organs and run them on saline solution so they are easier to maintain. The stalker idea came from wanting something that crept around in the shadows and then lunged at you.
 
jimmyjam said:
also they have a ?plastic? collar on their necks
very odd

They're like the Xen slaves!! maybe the combine like enslaving races or something??
 
azz0r said:
*whips out raising the bar*

They rip out all the organs and run them on saline solution so they are easier to maintain. The stalker idea came from wanting something that crept around in the shadows and then lunged at you.

And instead they got something that just stands there... I miss the original ones, those were very creepy as hell... erm.. from what I saw on the erm. video's on erm.. hl2 world, yeah, i'll blame them, everyone will believe me then :E
 
lol I didnt see them in the...video.

Well I did, but they just had lasers and stood there.
 
azz0r said:
lol I didnt see them in the...video.

Well I did, but they just had lasers and stood there.
Oh they moved around... in the video.. ran after you... in the videos.. on that site..


They were neat. The lasers were nasty, hard to avoid, very cool... in the video
 
I might try to find that video so I can ...watch them again.
 
I... Don't... Know... Why... The... Hell... We... Are.... Talking... Like... This...

Is there something wrong with watch the... video?
 
Are you guys talking about porn? its porn isnt it?
 
The Dark Elf said:
And instead they got something that just stands there... I miss the original ones, those were very creepy as hell... erm.. from what I saw on the erm. video's on erm.. hl2 world, yeah, i'll blame them, everyone will believe me then :E
It'd be nice to see a similar enemy in an expansion because the concept art for them looked fantastic (and looked nothing like the enemies in-game). I never actually saw this <Ahem> "video" :)

EDIT: It's just occurred to me that I was actually referring to Prowlers... Never mind me, just carry about your business, people.
 
Well, a large part of the Stalkers are still in the code. However, a model error causes them to crash every time they ragdoll, and I've not yet worked out what animation is causing it to discombobulate.

Still, you'd need to code some running animations, and they still have their lasers (although, because they haven't assigned an attachment point for it, it comes from between their feet. The laser's quite nasty, too - they either shoot just in front of you, and sweep upwards, or they zig-zag it.

Can anybody give me full details of how the Stalkers acted in the *cough* video (in text, I don't want the *cough* video because I'll lose my soul) so I can refurbish them for my mod, and maybe make the source available for others to fart-ass about with.

Then again, maybe I should get Raising the Bar and read about them. But Amazon don't have any in stock.

-Angry Lawyer
 
bliink said:
Are you guys talking about porn? its porn isnt it?
bliink, im in a thread posting.. OFCOURSE ITS GONNA BE ABOUT PORN! what else do I post about? :p
 
The Dark Elf said:
bliink, im in a thread posting.. OFCOURSE ITS GONNA BE ABOUT PORN! what else do I post about? :p

and you're almost at 12,000 posts!
 
Angry Lawyer said:

Well they didnt move for me, but raising the bar states that they hid in the shadows and then ran out and shot at you with their lazer (they used to have a lazer from there head).

It would basically make you feel sorry for them because they were really weak.
 
azz0r said:
Well they didnt move for me, but raising the bar states that they hid in the shadows and then ran out and shot at you with their lazer (they used to have a lazer from there head).

It would basically make you feel sorry for them because they were really weak.
They were only weak if you didn't have much ammo, or got them on their own with plenty of cover. In a group with one behind and infront they were evil.

according to err raising the bar and err the video. yes.
 
In the preliminary coding that I've done to restore them, they shamble all over the damn place. But with peg-legs, they don't go very fast.

-Angry Lawyer
 
I like what they ended up doing with them. They are a testament to the horrible dehumanizing nature of this impersonal force we struggle against the whole game. It’s very mature of valve to make a game in which instead of fighting an obvious enemy we are forced to deal with the more realistic impersonal but even more horrible force that is the combine. Fighting the legions of hell or Hitler is just too easy… In hl2 we are confronted with a force that hardly has an image to vilify. Only the figurehead of Dr. Breen or the mask of a combine overwatch soldier. Evil in this game like in the real world doesn’t make itself an easy target. It hides behind words. In hl2 it hides behinds “progress, immortality, destiny.” In current affairs in our world it hides in “Patriotism, Freedom, and Good vs. Evil.” Notice that none of those words are negative things… They are simply being perverted to serve alternate purposes.
We must ask ourselves… Is that progress? Is that kind of immortality worth the price? Is that the only way to achieve our destiny? Isn’t forcing freedom an oxymoron? “Is patriotism synonymous for blind unquestioning devotion? If we completely these actions are we acting out the part of good or evil? Can we even define a complex world it two undistinguishable black and white halves?
 
Angry Lawyer said:
Well, a large part of the Stalkers are still in the code. However, a model error causes them to crash every time they ragdoll, and I've not yet worked out what animation is causing it to discombobulate.

Still, you'd need to code some running animations, and they still have their lasers (although, because they haven't assigned an attachment point for it, it comes from between their feet. The laser's quite nasty, too - they either shoot just in front of you, and sweep upwards, or they zig-zag it.

Can anybody give me full details of how the Stalkers acted in the *cough* video (in text, I don't want the *cough* video because I'll lose my soul) so I can refurbish them for my mod, and maybe make the source available for others to fart-ass about with.

Then again, maybe I should get Raising the Bar and read about them. But Amazon don't have any in stock.

-Angry Lawyer

actually i think the game crashes because the stalker model doesn't have a "ragdoll" animation, and i'm sure that if you check in the model viewer, it doesn't have a ragdoll model either.

the laser would come out of their eyes. well actually, in the center of both eyes, but it would be like a big, red gleam and a laser.

in the

leak/beta/SB/ffs

they would just stand around, unless you got close to them, which is when they would attack you with the laser. I think they would also punch you if you got too close to them. they were all crippled basically. in the leak/beta/SB/ffs, they looked like this:

leenk
 
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