Subtle quotes with BIG meanings

[A True Canadian]

Many have said that the way the Half-Life games unveil their story is subtle at best. You aren't going to understand a lot of the details unless you go looking for them. I don't know if this is necessarily true, as some quotes generate more questions than answers. Take these single sentence quotes as examples:

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"I expected more warning." -Isaac Kleiner after learning of Gordon's arrival.

Kleiner seems rather surprised about Gordon's arrival, but at the same time was expecting more forewarning. Was Kleiner simply expecting Gordon to arrive with a bang instead of at a trainsation being shipped off to a prison? Or was Kleiner seriously expecting Gordon to arrive at some date that had yet to be given to him? The HEV suit he was working on suggests that he really was expecting Gordon to arrive soon. But why would Kleiner be expecting Gordon soon if Gordon hadn't been seen since the Black Mesa Incident two decades ago?

Is it possible that the G-Man notified Kleiner of Gordon's future arrival and gave him Gordon's HEV suit to upgrade? A later quote stating that Gordon's "old suit still fits [him] like a glove" seems to suggest so.

Eli is also rather amazed that Gordon arrives, but his elation is far less than that of Isaac Kleiner or even Barney. One of the theories out there is that Eli hired Gordon's services from the G-Man, but if that were the case then wouldn't he know of when Gordon would arrive? Maybe he's just surprised that his deal with the G-Man actually worked?

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"You remember my wife Azian don't you?" -Eli Vance responding to the Vance family portrait in Black Mesa East.

This reveals that Gordon and Eli knew each other before the Black Mesa incident. However, it might suggest that they weren't as close as one would expect. The way Eli asks the question implies that Gordon barely knew Azian. Of course it has been about two decades since Gordon and Azian would have last met, so this could merely be Eli being polite and sparing Gordon of asking "who is that again?"

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"You should hear her go on and on about how it should have been her in the Black Mesa test chamber that day." -Alyx Vance on her way to the scrap yard.

This one is interesting. It reveals that Judith Mossman was an employee at Black Mesa. What it also implies is that Judith Mossman was supposed to be the one in the test chamber and not Gordon. Gordon was promoted and thrown into the test chamber almost imediately (probably why he was so late at the start of Half-Life -- he had only just found out).

This sparks some questions:
Was Judith fired to make room for Gordon? This would be interesting if it were true as the Administrator at the time was none other than Wallace Breen.

Was Judith at Black Mesa during the Incident? I'd say it's unlikely, but considering how big Black Mesa is, it's entirely possible (unless of course she was fired).

Why is it that she never got the chance to work with Eli Vance and Isaac Kleiner at Black Mesa if she was with the Anomolous Materials team prior to Gordon's promotion? Perhaps Eli was promoted along with Gordon, while Kleiner was never in the office (although Barney's quip during Alyx's teleport suggests Issac was there before).

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"I've been hearing about you since long before the Black Mesa Incident." -Judith Mossman as Gordon is being scanned at the BME entrance.

Judith has been hearing about Gordon long before the Black Mesa Incident, but the way she phrases the remark indicates that they have never actually met. Now if Judith was supposed to be in the test chamber and therefore and employee at Black Mesa, how is it that they have never met? Gordon met Azian before the Incident, so why is it he's never met Judith. Like I've discussed above, Judith working at Black Mesa but never meeting the members of the Anomylous Materials' team is rather puzzling.

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"Didn't you realize your contract was open to the highest bidder?" -Wallace Breen during Gordon's capture in the Citidel.

This indicates that the G-Man has spoken to Breen about Gordon's services. Clearly, it indicates that Gordon is being shopped around and avaliable to whoever has the best offer. What makes this confusing is who aquired Gordon's contract at the start of Half-Life 2? One of the theories out there is that Eli hired Gordon to help combat the Combine. But if this is true, then why is the G-Man offering Gordon's contract to Breen? What did Eli offer in return for Gordon's services?

G-Man intervened and removed Gordon at the end of Half-Life 2. Why did he do this? Was the terms of Gordon's current contract met? Was Gordon hired to remove Breen from power? Was Gordon hired to destroy the Citadel? If the G-Man cheated and removed Gordon before his contract had expired, then this could be why the Vortiguants took him away from the G-Man to start Episode 1.

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"For once the lesser master lay defeated, we knew the greater must also fall in time." -Random Vortiguants throughout the game.

The "lesser master' is very likely to be a reference to Nihilanth. The "greater master" can be a reference to either the G-Man or the Combine.

If it is the G-Man, then this explains the Vortiguant's actions at the start of Episode 1. The Vortiguants were slaves to their master, the Nihilanth. Recent information indicates that the Vortiguants were in fact commanded by the Controllers, but Nihilanth remained the main figurehead for them (just like Breen is the figurehead for the Combine on Earth). Gordon can be viewed as a slave to the G-Man, and this could be what the Vorts were referring to. With the lesser master (Nihilanth) removed by Gordon, the Vortiguants were no longer slaves to him. The Vortiguants removing the greater master (G-Man) could be a repayment to Gordon for his help.

If it is the Combine, then this further reinforces the theory that Nihilanth was under Combine control. Nihilanth somehow escaped from the Combine and took with him a large number of the populace to a safe haven, Xen. Ironically, Nihilanth didn't free the slaves, he remained their master. The heirarchy still saw the Combine as the main rulers, next is the Nihilanth and the Controllers, and finally the Vortiguants.

There's a striking parallel between Gordon and the Vortiguants.
GORDON
Greater Master = G-Man
Lesser Master = Wallace Breen (Gordon did work for him in Black Mesa)
VORTIGUANTS
Greater Master = Combine
Lesser Master = Nihilanth

Gordon has already removed the two lesser masters. Will it be the Vortiguants who will remove the greater masters?

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It's amazing how much a simple sentence can spark so many questions.

 

[ríomhaire]

Judith wasn't employed in BM (AFAWK).
"Fine scientist Judith. She was up for your job at Black Mesa but you edged her out with your Insbruck experience/experiment"
Or something to that extent.

 

[A True Canadian]

Judith wasn't employed in BM (AFAWK).
"Fine scientist Judith. She was up for your job at Black Mesa but your Insbruck experiment pushed her out"
Or something to that extent.

Well there's one mystery solved...

Heh, I totally forgot about that. :cheese:

 

[Llama]

Can't remember the wording, but we know that Gordon and Barney used to compete to see who could get into Kleiners (locked) office first.

 

[Oppressor]

It's amazing how much a simple sentence can spark so many questions.

Thats what I love with the HL series. Talk about well written dialogue! :O

 

[Thunderclap]

Regarding Judith Mossman, I think she and Gordon applied for the same job, but Gordon had better experience, and was chosen. I don't think Judith was ever employed by Black Mesa, and she might have never even been there.

EDIT: Beaten to it.

 

[A True Canadian]

Regarding Judith Mossman, I think she and Gordon applied for the same job, but Gordon had better experience, and was chosen. I don't think Judith was ever employed by Black Mesa, and she might have never even been there.

EDIT: Beaten to it.

After thinking about it some more, one could swing either way about whether Judith was an employee at Black Mesa. There's really no concrete evidence to suggest she wasn't employed, but nothing to really suggest otherwise either.

Perhaps even more confusing is the information about Gordon's employement:

In the Half-Life manual there's some background information about Gordon Freeman that reveals how long he's been at Black Mesa (seen here). The window of his employment is a mere 10 days!? This means that at most, he spent 10 days as an employee at Black Mesa? How does that work, especially if Gordon spent significant time with Kleiner, Eli, and Barney?

The only logical conclusion (to escape possible plot holes) is that Kleiner was offered a job at Black Mesa, and Gordon was allowed to tag along as Kleiner's protégée (while never really being an official member of staff, and ignoring the security requirements for Freeman). This would have given Gordon time to make friends with Barney, socialize with Eli, and rescue Kleiner's keys he locked in his office multiple times during his tenure. Gordon would then leave for Austria to continue his research until Kleiner recommended Gordon to Breen for the AM experiment. Breen offered Gordon the job and officially made him a employee.

The only problem with the 10 days theory (aside from having relaxed security to allow Gordon on site) is a problem that occurs in the first Half-Life expansion. In Opposing Force, Gordon is revealed to have been employee of the month. This means Gordon must have been at Black Mesa for more than 10 days as an official member of staff. He couldn't have been an employee before-hand if he was merely studying under Kleiner's authority. If he was employed before departing for Austria, then the context of this letter doesn't make sense. The 10 day theory only covers May 5th to May 15th, so Gordon couldn't have qualified for employee of the month for May. Quite the noodle scratcher. :O

 

[ríomhaire]

Gordon joins BM on May 15th. It is never stated what day the test takes place on nor it is never stated that it was his first day (which everyone and his grandmother seems to assume)

 

[Asknoone]

I highly doubt Gman has spoken to Breen. Infact, I'm positive. Breen is a pawn utilized by the Combine. He is stationed on Earth and is under their direct control. Anything Breen knows regarding the affairs and goings on of the universe and other universes beyond is purely because the Advisor has told him so. Gordons contract being up for grabs was something that quite clearly caught the eye of the Combine, and it's quite possible that they fancied taking a grab at it (though, I somehow doubt they considered quite how efficient Gordon Freeman actually was, until he destroyed one of their Citadels..)

Breen knows all about Gordon and the Gman because the Combine have told him so, as he also knows about his suspended stasis over the last two decades. Gman wouldn't go to Breen, because it'd be pointless.

I'm also certain Breen only said that to shatter your trust in Alyx and Eli. In my opinion, the Vortigaunts hired Gordon, with the acceptance of Eli Vance. There's more than enough hints within the game.

But yeah, good thread, and there are countless more substantial quotes.

Gordon got his job at Black Mesa through Kleiner, who was heading a research team for the company and he felt Gordon would be a valuable asset, as he was his mentor at MIT. Gordon figured it'd be weapons development.

 

[Vass]

In my opinion, the Vortigaunts hired Gordon, with the acceptance of Eli Vance. There's more than enough hints within the game.

Like which ones?

It sounds to me like you're saying the G-Man could be a Vortigaunt in human shape/form. Well we know the G-Man did from the end of HL1.

 

[A True Canadian]

Gordon got his job at Black Mesa through Kleiner, who was heading a research team for the company and he felt Gordon would be a valuable asset, as he was his mentor at MIT. Gordon figured it'd be weapons development.

I'm guessing that this means Gordon was never in Black Mesa before his trip to Austria then.

Gordon joins BM on May 15th. It is never stated what day the test takes place on nor it is never stated that it was his first day (which everyone and his grandmother seems to assume)

Odd.

Ok, new theory: It still happened on May 15th, but exactly 1 year later. The year is never really stated in any of the Half-Life games, so if it does turn out to be the 15th, all the other stuff (employee of the month, Barney and Gordon tunelling through vents to get into Kleiner's office, Gordon meeting Eli and Azian, etc.) would still make sense.

 

[ríomhaire]

In my opinion, the Vortigaunts hired Gordon, with the acceptance of Eli Vance. There's more than enough hints within the game.

Do you mean they hired for the events of HL2?

Ok, new theory: It still happened on May 15th, but exactly 1 year later. The year is never really stated in any of the Half-Life games, so if it does turn out to be the 15th, all the other stuff (employee of the month, Barney and Gordon tunelling through vents to get into Kleiner's office, Gordon meeting Eli and Azian, etc.) would still make sense.

Or maybe the test did not take place on the 15th

Edit: And maybe Gordon brought the employee of the month plaque from his old job.

 

[mortiz]

The G-Man is spotted in Half-Life 2 talking to Col. Odessa Cubbage, so it's a safe bet that someone from the resistence has hired Gordon's services. The G-Man is a mysterious fellow, I doubt he's motivated by material possesions or "money" as they say when they talk about the "Highest Bidder" in hiring Gordon's services from him. What sways the G-Man's choice in who to provide Gordon's contract too still remains a mystery. The resistence somehow out-bid the Combine. Or perhaps it was an impossible contract for the Combine? Knowing that Freeman wouldn't turn against his old friends. Maybe if the Combine had got the contract the G-Man would have delivered Gordon directly into the clutches of the Combine to be synthed or to have a micro-chip implanted in his brain or something?

 

[ríomhaire]

"...I've recieved some interesting offers for your services. Normally I would not contemplate these but these are extra-ordinary times."
To me this sounds like he has not rented Gordon out (as an individual) yet. I'd say:
1: He used Gordon and the resistance to overthrow the Combine for personal gain
2: He is a mercinary that is hired for a job. He does this job how he sees fit (whether this is by manipulating the world's leadership or using one of his agents or whatever) and the resistance/Vortigaunts hired him knowing he would use Freeman

 

[A True Canadian]

Or maybe the test did not take place on the 15th

Alright, alright you win. I'll drop the 15th completely.

The G-Man is spotted in Half-Life 2 talking to Col. Odessa Cubbage, so it's a safe bet that someone from the resistence has hired Gordon's services. The G-Man is a mysterious fellow, I doubt he's motivated by material possesions or "money" as they say when they talk about the "Highest Bidder" in hiring Gordon's services from him. What sways the G-Man's choice in who to provide Gordon's contract too still remains a mystery. The resistence somehow out-bid the Combine. Or perhaps it was an impossible contract for the Combine? Knowing that Freeman wouldn't turn against his old friends. Maybe if the Combine had got the contract the G-Man would have delivered Gordon directly into the clutches of the Combine to be synthed or to have a micro-chip implanted in his brain or something?

Interesting idea. If the Combine were successful in acquiring Gordon's services, then would they go about adding technology to him like they supposedly did with Nihilanth? Maybe fuse the hazard suit to his body to create some sort of bastardized Robocop.

But why would the G-Man offer Gordon's contract to the Combine and by extension Wallace Breen? Breen technically has already hired Gordon back in the days of Black Mesa, so it wouldn't seem like a stretch to have the G-Man discuss Gordon's future with him. Of course (like Samon suggests) offering him directly to the Combine is more likely to get the G-Man more in return, but is it really worth it considering the damage Gordon has caused so far? In fact offering Gordon to the Combine would be like throwing him into the lion's den.

So why did it take 20 odd years before the G-Man was able to get someone to take Gordon's contract? And why is G-Man speaking with Odessa Cubbage on Highway 17?

 

[mortiz]

My guess is that the resistance did manage to contact the G-Man and get Freeman hired, but they weren't told when to expect him, and it's what you'd expect of the G-Man.

Why no one mentions the G-Man to Gordon is a mystery. The G-Man is probably talking to Cubbage about Gordon and his current progress, and since Odessa is quite high up in the resistance (leader of the coast resistance it would seem) it would make sense for him to know about the arrangement they've got with the G-Man. Perhaps not mentioning the G-man is part of the contract? I think that Eli and Kleiner know more about Freeman's absence than they're letting on. I mean they're surprised to see Gordon but not that surprised. I don't think Alyx knows about the G-Man.

How the hell you get in contact with the G-Man in the first place remains a mystery too.

 

[Calhoun]

How the hell you get in contact with the G-Man in the first place remains a mystery too.

Perhaps one does not contact the G-Man, and instead he contacts you, when he decides.

 

[DeusExMachina]

The Vortigaunts are probably the ones who got a hold of G-Man and Freeman. Perhaps they wanted Gordon freed from G-Man's clutches once the job was done, G-Man said he would, but after seeing what he did with the Resistance and the Combine, he began to get more offers for Gordon's assistance and decided to take him away again. Vortigaunts weren't gonna stand for that. They owed it to Gordon. He freed them after all. And they knew the fight wasn't over. So, they took Gordon back.

 

[Asknoone]

That is pretty damn plausible.

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

Maybe the Project is something to do with contactign the G-Man, but I doubt it. A lot.

 

[A True Canadian]

Maybe the Project is something to do with contactign the G-Man, but I doubt it. A lot.

Why would Mossman be up north uncovering a Project that's nothing more than a telephone to the G-Man?

I'm with you, that doesn't make sense.

 

[Hullu]

I thought Eli said 'You remember my wife's Asian, don't you?'. And I thought to myself, yes, Alyx does look half African half Asian...

About Judith in the test chamber... I always thought she's just going on and on about how she's got just as much experience and skill as Gordon to do that yet for some reason they chose Gordon, and Judith feels like she has missed out on a lot of action that took place in hl1. Which doesn't make much sense because she doesn't look like an action hero... so I'm glad somebody thought of a better idea.

 

[A True Canadian]

About Judith in the test chamber... I always thought she's just going on and on about how she's got just as much experience and skill as Gordon to do that yet for some reason they chose Gordon, and Judith feels like she has missed out on a lot of action that took place in hl1. Which doesn't make much sense because she doesn't look like an action hero... so I'm glad somebody thought of a better idea.

Perhaps one of the reasons why she defected to Breen was because she wanted to prove to him that she was really a better choice than Gordon Freeman.

Ironically, you could argue that Judith (by releasing Gordon) was responsible for the destruction of the Citadel's reactor, just like Gordon (by releasing the crystal) was responsible for the destruction of the Anomalous Materials' reactor/scanner.

Breen hires Gordon --> things are destroyed and a portal gateway is opened to Xen.
Breen hires Judith --> things are destroyed and a portal gateway is closed to the Combine.

Not only does this show that Judith (in a strange way) produced better results than Gordon, but it also shows that Breen was doomed to fail whether he picked Gordon Freeman or Judith Mossman.

 

[TCfromBN]

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"Didn't you realize your contract was open to the highest bidder?" -Wallace Breen during Gordon's capture in the Citidel.

This indicates that the G-Man has spoken to Breen about Gordon's services. Clearly, it indicates that Gordon is being shopped around and avaliable to whoever has the best offer. What makes this confusing is who aquired Gordon's contract at the start of Half-Life 2? One of the theories out there is that Eli hired Gordon to help combat the Combine. But if this is true, then why is the G-Man offering Gordon's contract to Breen? What did Eli offer in return for Gordon's services?

G-Man intervened and removed Gordon at the end of Half-Life 2. Why did he do this? Was the terms of Gordon's current contract met? Was Gordon hired to remove Breen from power? Was Gordon hired to destroy the Citadel? If the G-Man cheated and removed Gordon before his contract had expired, then this could be why the Vortiguants took him away from the G-Man to start Episode 1.

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I'm new to all of this rumor and speculation stuff. But now that I think about it (the possible link between the combine and G man), perhaps Gordon was sent to actualy make the Black Mesa incident happen to let the combine into our world. All of these contracts sure bring a twist to the meaning of Half-Life, Gordan hardly has any time of his own.

 

[ríomhaire]

I'm new to all of this rumor and speculation stuff. But now that I think about it (the possible link between the combine and G man), perhaps Gordon was sent to actualy make the Black Mesa incident happen to let the combine into our world. All of these contracts sure bring a twist to the meaning of Half-Life, Gordan hardly has any time of his own.

My theory is that the Combine hired the g-man to get them Xen.

 

[Asknoone]

I think the main reason Mossman came under the sway of Breen was because she felt that the path Eli had chosen was a futile one. She, like Breen, has a thirst for scientifc knowledge, and it wouldn't have been too hard for Breen to lure her over.

Breen hires Gordon --> things are destroyed and a portal gateway is opened to Xen.
Breen hires Judith --> things are destroyed and a portal gateway is closed to the Combine..

Thats really quite the over simplication, but there is some meaning in there.

My theory is that the Combine hired the g-man to get them Xen.

I disagree. The way its been worded by Valve assumes that Gmans presence at the Black Mesa facility was primarily to manipulate events and transform Gordon into his tool - and that is straight from the horses mouth. Also, his actions during the game appear to be against the opening of the resonance cascade.

 

[mastag]

I think the main reason Mossman came under the sway of Breen was because she felt that the path Eli had chosen was a futile one. She, like Breen, has a thirst for scientifc knowledge, and it wouldn't have been too hard for Breen to lure her over.

that is what i love about half life's story. the characters are not one dimensional. i found myself understanding and sympathising with some of breen's motives. we can argue about what is and is not canon all we want, but we can all agree that the series has some fantastic writing. sorry for going off topic, but i was just thinking about that.

 

[A True Canadian]

that is what i love about half life's story. the characters are not one dimensional. i found myself understanding and sympathising with some of breen's motives. we can argue about what is and is not canon all we want, but we can all agree that the series has some fantastic writing. sorry for going off topic, but i was just thinking about that.

I agree whole-heartedly. Take Judith's revenge on Breen as an example:

In Nova Prospekt
(Mossman is talking to Dr. Breen)
Breen: ...from your area.
Judith: I am not calling about that, you promised you were not going to touch Eli.
Alyx: What is she up to? Oh my god.
Breen: The soldiers were a bit overzealous I admit, but he was too tempting a prize to turn loose, especially in the absence of Gordon Freeman.
Judith: You would have had Freeman if you had just been patient and waited for my signal.
Breen: We were not entirely sure you were ever going to get around to that, human loyalties being what they are.
Judith: Dr. Breen, as I have stated before you have to let Eli come around on his own, you cannot just...
Breen: I have known Dr. Vance far longer than you my dear. I am afraid your feelings for him might have blinded you.
Judith: Feelings? This has nothing to do with feelings. It is a simple truth that when Eli believes in our...
Breen: This is not open to debate Dr. Mossman.
Judith: Doctor please...
Breen: So sorry Judith I am all out of time.
(The monitor shuts off)

In Breen's Office
Breen: Judith, what do you think you are doing?
Judith: We are doing what I could never do alone. We are stopping you.
Alyx: Yes!
(Breen uses the intercom)
Breen: Guards! Get in here!
(Judith uses the hacking tool on the intercom, the guards begin banging on the door)
Breen: They know you betrayed them, they will turn on you, Judith... Dr. Mossman please!
Judith: I am sorry Wallace, you are all out of time.

I love that! :E

 

[Asknoone]

Yeah, that was rather awesome.

 

[Flyingdebris]

don't forget that the g-man is seen talking to that vortigaunt and that one guy through a tv in that Route Kanal boxcar.

Whatever the case was, it seems that the vorties and the resistance were able to rent gordon and tried for the most part to look ignorant of having done so. I believe that they knew Gordon was a weapon, and considering breen's reaction during the teleport sequence when you end up in his office for a few seconds, he did too.

The G-man i think, whatever he may be, is a 4 dimensional entity. Meaning that he can move through time the same way that we can walk across a room. So that he can be any time anywhere he wants, and also percieve the future results of all his actions. In the same way that we can look at a piece of paper with a line drawn on it and see the beginning middle and end of that line. What he didn't plan on however was the interference of other 4 dimensional entities, namely the vorties, who although seem to live in 3d space, are implied in several quotes as having a group consciousness that percieves in 4d.

 

[A True Canadian]

don't forget that the g-man is seen talking to that vortigaunt and that one guy through a tv in that Route Kanal boxcar.

Odd that G-Man and the Vortiguant are seen communicating with each other, especially with what happens to start Episode 1. One could view this as foreshadowing. That quote by the Vortiguant I mentioned on the 1st page may tie into this, especially if it was referring to the G-Man as a master.

As for the time travel stuff, I think that's false. I doubt the G-Man or the Vortiguants can travel through time. They may be able to wander through different dimensions, but if they were capable of time travel, they could go back and re-write history to better suit them. The Vorts could prevent themselves from becoming slaves, and the G-Man could solve his problems too. Of course if they did possess such power, I doubt they'd use it for the fact that doing so would likely result in a paradox.

 

[ríomhaire]

I had forgotten about the Vort-TV-Gman thing. I'm now convinced of the Vortigaunts-Hired-Gman theory.

 

[Shift]

First of all, I looooove this topic, I knew Valve had created one of the greatest storylines ever, but my god they really have delved deep into it, making all sorts of plot twists and turns.

Ok first of all, Mossman must have applied for the job that Freeman had, only Breen chose Freeman for his experiance. Obviously this must have been a big step up, but I think Mossman must still have been at Black Mesa, somewhere else in facility. She is there with Eli and Kliener because she must be an MIT graduate, and must of had some sort of ties with Kliener.

I believe the G-Man does have the power to look into the future to an extent, so he knew if he created the scenrio at Black Mesa, Freeman would battle through it, and basically make himself into a tool of destruction. I know for a fact that is G-Man's motives for the first Half-Life.

Ok the G-Man had a lot of offers for Freeman, and one of those offers must have been from the Combine. The Combine must have told Breen about Freeman working for the G-Man.

On the otherside of the story, the Vortigaunts must have hired Freeman at the highest bid, to basically battle the Combine and to save planet Earth. The Vortigaunts must have had specific goals set for Freeman, and it seems to me that all these goals were not met, as they trapped the G-Man at the start of Ep1, most likely to finish off what he was meant to do. They must also have told Eli and Vance about, Barney would have somehow found out, and obviously the leading Resistance members would have known, obviously the G-Man chose not to tell them when, which is why they 'expected more warning', otherwise they would have been completely baffled as to how the hell he just appeared out of the blue. Also, they must have been clear on Freeman's desire for Alyx not be killed in the blast on top of the Citadel, so in repayment of freeing them, they granted this wish. This also becomes apparant in the teaser. Alyx possibly gets killed, and normally they wouldn't bring a person back to life because basically its too hard or something, but Freeman did free them, so they obviously must make the exception.

At the start of Half-Life 2, when you randomly teleport to Breen's office for the second time, he is seen talking to the Combine Advisor because he was obviously startled to see him in City 17 at that time. Eventually it would have dawned on Breen and the Combine that the resistance somehow hired Freeman to fight against them, as Breen would have been told that some renegade is fighting against them, which explains that half way through the Canal Route, Breen's face appears on the screen in that garage, telling people to go against Freeman.

I think that sums up the main story from my point of view. Although there are a lot of little stories within too =D

 

[ríomhaire]

She is there with Eli and Kliener

"I so envy you working with Eli and Dr. Kleiner when they where at the top of their field"

because she must be an MIT graduate, and must of had some sort of ties with Kliener.

I don't see how, Eli is a Harvard graduate.

I believe the G-Man does have the power to look into the future to an extent, so he knew if he created the scenrio at Black Mesa, Freeman would battle through it, and basically make himself into a tool of destruction. I know for a fact that is G-Man's motives for the first Half-Life.

The EP1 site? I doubt it is sole motive though.

 

[Shift]

No i meant she is there with eli and kleiner in half life 2, not black mesa.

Dont really get your second point

And yeah obviously he must have had other plans for him, but i think his main plan in half-life was to train him up basically.

 

[AJ Rimmer]

Dont really get your second point

Why must Mossman be an MIT graduate? Eli isn't.
Also, there is no reason why she must have ties with Kleiner, after all, Freeman and Kleiner seems to have met at Innsbrück, the very thing that put Freeman over the top for the job for which both he and Mossman applied.

 

[ríomhaire]

And yeah obviously he must have had other plans for him, but i think his main plan in half-life was to train him up basically.

The RC seems like a bit much just to train one (maybe 2) guys.

 

[Shift]

lol ok fair points

 

[AJ Rimmer]

The RC seems like a bit much just to train one (maybe 2) guys.

Right, I mean, what if he died? Then G-man just destroyed a big government labratory and possibly released the portal storms and consequentely the combine on earth without getting a (free)man he could use out of it.

 

[Shift]

You guys are just dieing to see Shepard aren't you lol