Teacher marries boy she raped

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On the topic of discussion of statutory rape as in that 13 year old girl thread, there was this story today, but I thought it was exclusive enough to warrant it's own thread:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/4569259.stm

A former US schoolteacher has married an ex-pupil 10 years after she raped him when he was just 12.

She was released last August after having given birth to the couple's second daughter in jail.

Thoughts?
 
yeah i remember reading about this years ago...

well hes not a child anymore and shes served her sentence.

they both want to get married, so... let them.
 
KoreBolteR said:
yeah i remember reading about this years ago...

well hes not a child anymore and shes served her sentence.

they both want to get married, so... let them.

But it begs the question...was she imprisoned unjustly?
 
no, she had sex with an underage boy = jail.

after serving her punishment she comes out, and marries a man who is over the legal age and wants to marry her.

plus they have kids... makes sense :D
 
KoreBolteR said:
no, she had sex with an underage boy = jail.

after serving her punishment she comes out, and marries a man who is over the legal age and wants to marry her.

plus they have kids... makes sense :D


I agree 100%, she had sex with a consenting child, which is statutory rape, they both knew it was illegal and did it anyway. But...for them, it was hard that they were away from each other for so long, especially considering they had 2 children, but they're married and just want to get on with the rest of their lives. Case Closed.
 
I think people need to make more of a distinction between moral wrongness and legal wrongness. There are laws in place to protect children from being emotionally exploited, or abused, and those laws need to be there. It's *legally* incorrect to break them, and the law dictates you're stuffed if you do so.

However, that's not to say that every single relationship between someone underneath the age of consent and someone over it is going to be a harmful or abusive relationship. The law has to generalise, that's the way it works... In this case, maybe the two people involved would rather had the law keep its nose out, but the law isn't there to judge individual cases on their characteristics, it's there to impose rules that span across society, for society's general benefit (in theory).

I dunno, I think that legality gets mixed up with morality too much. The law is just something that comes from above, and it's ideal goal is to keep society ticking over fairly healthily, so there's no reason to expect that it will work out for the benefit of the individuals involved in every instance. Often it coincides with people's general idea of what is 'right' and 'wrong', but coincidence is pretty much all it is.
 
...and whether it was morally right or wrong, she knew the punishment and went ahead with it anyway. So there really is no injustice.
 
Even if the kid was completely unharmed in every aspect of the word, the teacher still should have been jailed. If she had been unpunished, it would give carte-blanche for nearly everyone who wants to sleep with a twelve-year-old. The kids who do have the maturity to consent simply have to be inconvenienced in order to protect those who can't from suffering.

The moral of the story is to just wait four years, you crazy broad! :p
 
Yeah the underage thing was wrong but now he's of age and what not so it's ok..
I'd hate to be her kids though.
I liked the case not too long ago where some smokin hot blonde teacher got caught nailin one of her students while the students cousin drove them around while they were doin it :LOL:
 
I think they have to take incidents case by case.
I think it is wrong to have the same age for everyone, i mean some people can be ready for sex when they are young, they are mature of both body and mind.

There are also some dependants that are older than me that could be being abused.
I mean a 20 year old person (physical age 20) with a mental age of 8 is physically ready for sex but could be abused by someone with bad intentions.

It is usually quite obvious where the "dodgy" situations are.
 
xLostx said:
I liked the case not too long ago where some smokin hot blonde teacher got caught nailin one of her students while the students cousin drove them around while they were doin it :LOL:

Sounds like some sort of bangbus/milf hunter cross over....
 
short recoil said:
I think they have to take incidents case by case.
I think it is wrong to have the same age for everyone, i mean some people can be ready for sex when they are young, they are mature of both body and mind.

There are also some dependants that are older than me that could be being abused.
I mean a 20 year old person (physical age 20) with a mental age of 8 is physically ready for sex but could be abused by someone with bad intentions.

It is usually quite obvious where the "dodgy" situations are.
I am pretty sure they have laws against that, condisering the person is mentally retarded.
 
short recoil said:
I think they have to take incidents case by case.
I think it is wrong to have the same age for everyone, i mean some people can be ready for sex when they are young, they are mature of both body and mind.

There are also some dependants that are older than me that could be being abused.
I mean a 20 year old person (physical age 20) with a mental age of 8 is physically ready for sex but could be abused by someone with bad intentions.

It is usually quite obvious where the "dodgy" situations are.

I agree with you in principle. At the age of 20 there are some people who, even if they aren't mentally retarded, are as open to emotional exploitation in sexual relations as, let's say, a promiscuous 14 year old.

The thing is you just can't legislate on that...people just try and draw a "line of best fit" with the age of consent, and hope that it applies correctly in most cases. You can see evidence of this in the way that age of consent laws vary all over the world, even in fully developed countries. And no government is going to undermine their precious laws by making exceptions to the rule, just for the sake of conveniencing a couple of individuals.
 
xLostx said:
Here's the teacher I was refering to -Linkage
Not bad eh? :upstare:

Not bad...but she's trying to use "insanity" as a defence??! Does she seriously believe that a jury will think she was mad, as opposed to just horny? Emotional issues my foot...

I could see how the whole thing could screw up a 14 yr olds head though....don't get me wrong, I'm not a touchy-feely sensitive "kids-can-do-no-wrong" type :upstare: We all know that your average 14 year old boy is as horny as a goat - but to actually end up with your hot blonde teacher giving you oral...well, it's got to be a little overwhelming,no? No? :eek:
 
Well, nothing really wrong about the marrige...im just not sure anyone in their right mind would marry an old lady who had sex with them when they were 12.
Then again it doesn't look like this has a lot to do with people in their right minds.
 
ohh she looks nice.

I wouldn't mind being raped by her at the age of 12. No complaints from me!
 
I think it's rather f*cked-up that she slept with a 12-year old in the first place - although if I'd had the chance with my English teacher in secondary school, I would've. But that's not the point. Seems like they must care for each other to want to be together after all this (a decade of growing up, a prison sentence, etc.) so fair play to them.
As for statutory rape? Well, it's part of the law for a perfectly good reason, although sometimes people use it for vindictive purposes. Also, if two people having sex are underage, isn't it always they guy's fault, legally speaking?
 
el Chi said:
I think it's rather f*cked-up that she slept with a 12-year old in the first place - although if I'd had the chance with my English teacher in secondary school, I would've. But that's not the point. Seems like they must care for each other to want to be together after all this (a decade of growing up, a prison sentence, etc.) so fair play to them.
As for statutory rape? Well, it's part of the law for a perfectly good reason, although sometimes people use it for vindictive purposes. Also, if two people having sex are underage, isn't it always they guy's fault, legally speaking?

why do people always blame guys? :x
 
el Chi said:
Also, if two people having sex are underage, isn't it always they guy's fault, legally speaking?
Explain the reasoning behind that. Or do you mean from a societal point of view, society always blames the guy?
 
I don't know exactly, and there's every chance I'm wrong, but I seem to remember that... No, there's no real sense behind it
 
yeah when the word paedophiles pop up, people instantly think of slimey old men. its a fact.
 
Mr-Fusion said:
Explain the reasoning behind that. Or do you mean from a societal point of view, society always blames the guy?

No I think he means if 2 underage people have sex, the male is at fault in the eyes of the law.

I think...
 
By UK law you are correct. However it is advised not to prosecute in thoose circumstances.
I just hope the boy recieved proper councilling.
 
solaris152000 said:
By UK law you are correct. However it is advised not to prosecute in thoose circumstances.
I just hope the boy recieved proper councilling.

Cool. I just think it's really f**king weird, she... raped him, strange woman.
 
I think the woman's probably quite sick in the head, but there's no law to stop them getting married. Personally I wouldn't like to be their kids, knowing that your mother raped your father when he was 12 years old and you were born in prison? (or maybe not knowing at first, but they're bound to find out sooner or later)

They're going to get 0wned in school, people like that shouldn't have kids imho.
 
but he wasnt raped imo.. he wanted to have sex...

they should say 'statutory rape' on BBC news, and not just 'rape'... its a bit misleading tbh. :|

but other than that, read post #4 for my total views. :thumbs:
 
KoreBolteR said:
but he wasnt raped imo.. he wanted to have sex...

they should say 'statutory rape' on BBC news, and not just 'rape'... its a bit misleading tbh. :|

but other than that, read post #4 for my total views. :thumbs:

She's still screwed up for having sex with a 12 year old. I didn't even really know what sex was when I was 12. I mean I knew the details but it wasn't like something I'd want to participate in. Kids who do want to have sex that young have serious issues with home life and she should have seen that as oppose to making those issues worse. It's still rape in my book; no 12 year old can make that decision with a clear mind.
 
KoreBolteR said:
yeah when the word paedophiles pop up, people instantly think of slimey old men. its a fact.
You forgot the dirty sheepskin jacket, NHS glasses and of course the dual tone orange brown/dark brown ford cortina.
 
kirovman said:
Viagra, lots of sedatives and rope.
wouldn't work, viagra doesn't give you an automatic boner, you still have to be arroused; sedatives - again puts you to "sleep" doesn't really make a boner; rope-well, i guess you can tie up a guy, but she is going to have to f@ck his fingers or something,

i don't think you can really rape a guy, unless you a guy yourself
 
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