Teleportation for Real?

[alan8325]

http://www.fas.org/sgp/eprint/teleport.pdf

I was reading some articles on space.com and I found this pdf file that was supposedly requested by the U.S. Airforce as a study on teleportation.

I don't understand most of it, but the part at the end about p-teleportation is very interesting. Supposedly there have been many studies, both in the U.S. and in China, where people have successfully teleported small objects into and out of containers repeatedly and under very controlled conditions. One object teleported was actually a computer chip that emittted signals that were observed disappearing and reappearing!

If true, this would rule out fraud and illusions as explainations. I'm surprised that I haven't seen these experiments on the news everywhere, even though some are old, like from the 70's and 80's. This is the reason i'm a little skeptical. Does anyone know if these are actually true?

 

[The Dark Elf]

Sounds cool.. replacement for planes so im happy

 

[bliink]

You need to wait till the science geeks wake up for that one..
but we arent at the point of teleporting people yet...

 

[The Dark Elf]

You need to wait till the science geeks wake up for that one..
but we arent at the point of teleporting people yet...

I wonder if there would still be delays, cancellations and baggage being sent to the wrong destination..


"I'd like to make a complaint.. I was sent to the US, but my family were teleported into deep space and my luggage went to Peru"

 

[bliink]

I wonder if there would still be delays, cancellations and baggage being sent to the wrong destination..

high entropy

 

[The Dark Elf]

high entropy

That wont account for human error.. I mean, you've seen the people who work at airports right?

 

[bliink]

That wont account for human error.. I mean, you've seen the people who work at airports right?

lol.. I meant... chaos theory

 

[The Dark Elf]

lol.. I meant... chaos theory

chaos theory.. yes, another name for airport staff.. one can be lighting up a cig at one end of the terminal and you can be sure his actions cause your luggage not to have made it to the plane on time

*wonders to himself how many Russian's he's clothed over the years due to lost luggage*

 

[alan8325]

There is also a section on "Zero-Point Energy." Isn't the manipulator in HL2 called the zero-point energy gun or something?

Anyway, it describes it like this:

"The mechanism for teleportation in this model is:
to send an object outside of the universe by creating a closed surface (i.e., “hole sphere”), which consists of vacuum holes, around the object;

while inside the hole sphere, the object then ceases to exist because objects cannot really exist outside of the universe;

however, the object simultaneously exists at any other remote location in the universe (via the cosmological principle) at the instant it became enclosed by the hole sphere;

therefore, it has been teleported to some remote location in the universe"

Sounds pretty deep, but this particular theory has no explanation on how to create it. It may be an extension on wormhole theory.

 

[The Dark Elf]

while inside the hole sphere, the object then ceases to exist because objects cannot really exist outside of the universe;

however, the object simultaneously exists at any other remote location in the universe (via the cosmological principle) at the instant it became enclosed by the hole sphere;

Thats already possible.. just go to Milton Keynes
http://www.mkweb.co.uk/

 

[Icarus]

everything would be instant, but the DMV would still take like 6 seconds

/end Dane Cook

 

[destrukt]

i'm still waiting for x-ray vision

 

[Tr0n]

Whats the Chaos theory?

 

[Icarus]

something about 'life will find a way'

 

[Maxi]

Oooo, I want x-ray vision too!

 

[The Dark Elf]

i'm still waiting for x-ray vision

I remember an old movie with some guy who got x-ray vision. Was old but well done and showed x-ray vision isn't all it cracks up to be, Some things your not meant to see/know.

 

[Icarus]

I remember an old movie with some guy who got x-ray vision. Was old but well done and showed x-ray vision isn't all it cracks up to be, Some things your not meant to see/know.

Ooohh...then give me the ones that only see through clothes

 

[Varsity]

Teleportation involves saving the status of an object, destroying it then recreating it elsewhere. Not exactly a solution for living beings.

 

[Maxi]

Yeah, i'll make do with those

 

[Icarus]

Teleportation involves saving the status of an object, destroying it then recreating it elsewhere. Not exactly a solution for living beings.

aye, cause you would know that by stepping into it, you would die...and that if you stepped out of it, you were a clone

 

[Maxi]

How about a stargate approach? Molecular deconstruction -> energy -> Molecular reconstruction.

 

[Icarus]

How about a stargate approach? Molecular deconstruction -> energy -> Molecular reconstruction.

it would still terminate the electrical signals in your brain...so yeah...dead

 

[Maxi]

But but ENERGY!

:imu:

 

[Icarus]

But but ENERGY!

:imu:

complete thoughts man!

 

[Maxi]

My thoughts ARE complete!!

:imu:

 

[Icarus]

My thoughts ARE complete!!

:imu:

No I mean complete thoughts would be destroyed

 

[Maxi]

Oh... well... perhaps!

 

[Icarus]

Oh... well... perhaps!

see...it's already happening to you

 

[Maxi]

I guess the stargate to california did that to me.

/me starts to look for a phonebook.

 

[Icarus]

another 'hate to break this to you' moment...

stargates don't exist

 

[Maxi]

You don't know what the finnish government has done with all the tax money they have gotten from Nokia...

 

[clarky003]

Teleportation involves saving the status of an object, destroying it then recreating it elsewhere. Not exactly a solution for living beings.

ey that would work for inanimate objects, you can not destroy it , and convert it into vaccum energy instead, and reconsitute/manifest it elsewhere.

we would have to harness the virtual particles that give the protons neutrons and electrons their being.,

but yeh i guess this falls into the realm of the vaccum state again, or zero point.

it would still terminate the electrical signals in your brain...so yeah...dead

if you can harness it well, then you may beable to freeze those signals or reconstruct them from the energy state back into the physical, (afterall the conversion into energy would encapulate everything that was energy , including the brain signals) , and if a neuron was firing in the brain... and it was converted into the vaccum, and then back to the physical, it should still fire in a reconstituted state, so the brain might not die.. its really deep stuff. I guess we dont know.


Scientist's recon wormholes exist... thats practically a natural stargate right there if they do.

 

[Tinneth]

Imagine learning to teleport then getting it wrong and teleporting half in a wall. ouch.

 

[aeroripper]

The whole teleportation studies is nothing new... IIRC the soviets did experiences during the cold war with psychics (sp) and the US had that one experiement where the teleported the ship or something and sailors got stuck in it, it was deep-throated but i can't remember if it was debunked.

Yes telekinesis is real, just apparantly not good for the body. I can't remember the name of that russian homemaker that used it but she was very sick from it because it was such a strain.

 

[DoctorGordon]

Yes telekinesis is real, just apparantly not good for the body. I can't remember the name of that russian homemaker that used it but she was very sick from it because it was such a strain.

Correct

 

[NeptuneUK]

people can only transport atoms.
very complicated, its just that its a breakthrough because they are able to control the teleportation

there is a lot of debate over the 'teleportation' issue, because some people claim that the object not actually teleported as the name suggests, anyway its still a milestone at the moment

 

[Brian Damage]

The whole teleportation studies is nothing new... IIRC the soviets did experiences during the cold war with psychics (sp) and the US had that one experiement where the teleported the ship or something and sailors got stuck in it, it was deep-throated but i can't remember if it was debunked.

Yes telekinesis is real, just apparantly not good for the body. I can't remember the name of that russian homemaker that used it but she was very sick from it because it was such a strain.

The ship teleportation in the US was the Philadelphia Experiment, IIRC. Weird stuff supposedly came from that. I mean, I've heard reports that some of the people on the ship were dead when it rematerialised, that some immediately went crazy, and that the ones that didn't sometimes went nuts a while after. I've also heard that survivors of the experiment were left with a distressing tendency to spontaneously disintegrate or dematerialise. Also heard some stuff about the survivors saying they saw some really weird crap in another dimension during the teleportation, but that sounds a bit odd to me...

And there is also a species of ant that seems to have mastered the art of teleportation. Supposedly, scientists have seen the queen of the colony being teleported under crisis situations from one completely enclosed area to another. Makes sense if you consider an ants nest to be a single intelligent entity...

 

[Razor]

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq21-1.htm

 

[Icarus]

The ship teleportation in the US was the Philadelphia Experiment, IIRC. Weird stuff supposedly came from that. I mean, I've heard reports that some of the people on the ship were dead when it rematerialised, that some immediately went crazy, and that the ones that didn't sometimes went nuts a while after. I've also heard that survivors of the experiment were left with a distressing tendency to spontaneously disintegrate or dematerialise. Also heard some stuff about the survivors saying they saw some really weird crap in another dimension during the teleportation, but that sounds a bit odd to me...

And there is also a species of ant that seems to have mastered the art of teleportation. Supposedly, scientists have seen the queen of the colony being teleported under crisis situations from one completely enclosed area to another. Makes sense if you consider an ants nest to be a single intelligent entity...

Yeah the PE has been covered so many times on the history channel, its not even funny....but there are supposedly freaky things that went on with Nikola Tesla's work

 

[Atomi]

Also heard some stuff about the survivors saying they saw some really weird crap in another dimension during the teleportation, but that sounds a bit odd to me...

Sounds like Event Horizon to me.

Anyway, teleporting a ship sounds wicked. And the weird stuff that you said that supposedly happened to the people. Can't imagine flickering invisibility. Or a ship apperaing out of nowhere.