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Am I the only one who wonders how these half-witted morons ever became the supreme power of the universe? C'mon people. These technologically advanced super aliens can't defeat a couple of measly humans with sub-standard weapon technology compared to their own? How the hell did the war only last 7 hours and how the hell did we lose? The combine are just damned lucky that they are only dealing with Gordon, if both him AND Adrian were out they would've been wiped out long ago :LOL:
 
Gordon only gets to fight some crappy counter-insurgency occupation force that's made up mostly of modified humans. The actual combine military would probably mince him.

"It'll be the Seven Hours War all over again, except this time we won't last seven minutes."
 
now now, dont talk that bad about gordon :D, remember he is you :p but I have to agree that we most likely didnt see the full force of the combine, I mean it was 20 years, they probably never tought there will be a rebellion.
 
Yeah, Gordon is pretty much fighting the Home Guard of the Combine.
 
Plus, the combine really underestimated him. Its only by the end of HL2 they begin to realise how dangerous he is, and by then its too late - the citadel is going up, cummunications are down and the overwatch is in disarry.
 
99% of earth's population was in the cities because of the portal storms; the militaries of the world where defending the cities; all of a sudden citadel's appear in these cities and pour out everything they've got.
 
I just dont know how could they have destroyed earths military in only 7 hours?!?!?!
I know there was a lot of xen wildlife around,but 7hours!
Earth can offer a LOT of soldiers so the combine must have had FAR superion numbers and FAR FAR FAR better technology
 
Well, humanity still suffered from the Portal Storms, creating chaos and mass movement op people to the cities. The point is, we care about eachother en because almost all the fighting was within or around the cities meaned that the military forces couldn't use atomic bombs or heavy bombing because that would cause the dead of millions of people.

Next to that, if every Citadel is pumping out the 'main combine force' units (crab/Mortar synths) which both have self-replicating and limb-regenerative qualities then I can understand that we failed after 7 hours.
 
The Combine sent a huge force of synths and such for the initial invasion and then when enough humans had joined them, they took the vast majority of their forces to take over other worlds and left the Overwatch to manage Earth.

Considering how crap the Combine's teleport technology is, it would have taken them a while to send a large force to stop Freeman and by the time they realised how much of a threat he was the Citadel had been badly damaged which would most likely prevent mass teleportation.
 
You're fighting post-humans, a mere branch of the Combine. Why do you think it was so important to close the super portal? I mean, it's not hard to notice you're fighting a bunch of upgraded humans for most of the games.

Cheomesh said:
99% of earth's population was in the cities because of the portal storms; the militaries of the world where defending the cities; all of a sudden citadel's appear in these cities and pour out everything they've got.
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99% of what was left of it.
 
Lets face it...while the militaries of the world could fight back, the synths running around the city would have easily wiped out most of the military forces...you got large creatures like Striders and Gunships easily taking out our vehicles, and then animals like headcrabs, mortar synths and antlions would easily be able to dessimate the remaining ground forces by zerg tactics...just rush em...there is more of you then them, you have a good chance of killing them all before they do you...
 
Look at how devastating to the world the headcrabs are... and most notably, antlions.

Look at Nova Prospekt, you knock down the supression devices (Thumpers) of a heavily armed fortress like Nova Prospekt, and, with or without you, those antlions gut that place, guards and all. That place didnt have a chance. If antlions were running wild around the time of the combine invasion.... erg, that'd be terrible.
Or City 17 at the beginning of Ep1. Defences from Antlions on the perimiter of the city are knocked out, and the antlions are already destroying the city.

Earth had no defences, no thumpers ready for the antlions.... how long do you think that'd last?

The remaining military was far from prepared for whatever was to come out of that super portal, not to mention the devastating portal storms.
 
Yep, and ant lions where already on earth before the combine even came.
 
Yeah, a good argument could be made that the Xen wildlife took a serious toll before the Combine even started waging war. Zombie outbreaks, yikes.

Realistically, though, they're that weak for gameplay reasons. In the real world, those Combine gunships and choppers wouldn't stand a chance against F-16s, but it's asking quite a lot of a player to defeat something that could outgun the Air Force's finest.

I agree with someone on another thread that said that the military in HL1 was more of a challenge than the Combine, though. Everything seemed to move so much faster.
 
SpectreBlofeld said:
Realistically, though, they're that weak for gameplay reasons. In the real world, those Combine gunships and choppers wouldn't stand a chance against F-16s, but it's asking quite a lot of a player to defeat something that could outgun the Air Force's finest.
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The choppers came much later; once they'd already started absorbing human vehicles into the Earth garrison. And gunships, well they can shoot down rockets quite well, and are much more maneuverable then any human plane could ever hope to be, and of course they're bulletproof.
Even so, the actual air forces used during the 7 Hour War were probably exponentially more powerful...
 
Planetary said:
The choppers came much later; once they'd already started absorbing human vehicles into the Earth garrison. And gunships, well they can shoot down rockets quite well, and are much more maneuverable then any human plane could ever hope to be, and of course they're bulletproof.
Even so, the actual air forces used during the 7 Hour War were probably exponentially more powerful...
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Assuming a Citadel isn't a massive AA complex in and of itself.


An interesting mod idea would be a realism mod that really dials up the power of the combine troops. Maybe have us play as a Rebel, or even Adrian.
 
Of course with the human population stuck in the cities, who would be daring enough to travel outside of the protection zones to the airfields and then actually get through the 20 minute startup procedure, not to mention loading weapons, before synths move in and start attacking them...
 
Ridge said:
Of course with the human population stuck in the cities, who would be daring enough to travel outside of the protection zones to the airfields and then actually get through the 20 minute startup procedure, not to mention loading weapons, before synths move in and start attacking them...
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Just like in the dark/middle ages.
 
Yeah, This was never said in game. But in the story according to Raising The Bar, prices of cities just disappeared and Citadels transported into that spot.
 
Uninformed Person Alert: What's a Synth?
 
Striders, Hunters and Gunships and so on. Force evolved organic creatures the Combine conquered.
 
Tuskin said:
Yeah, This was never said in game. But in the story according to Raising The Bar, prices of cities just disappeared and Citadels transported into that spot.
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According to RTB, in an unused scene, it is said that huge holes would open up in cities, swallowing buildings and people, and the Citadels just rose up out of the holes and began destroying the surrounding area while pumping out troops and synths...
 
I must really get and read Raising The Bar.

Anyway, the combine didn't wipe out the earths military after 7 hours, thats just how long it took Breen to get everyone to surrender.
 
Though you dont exactly see a lot of Abrams and T-72s around City 17, do ya?
 
the real combine (if i'd call it that) in the 7 hours war used synths that we haven't even seen in the game, or had a small glimse of, in example those spider-like synths who were patrolling the citadel when Freeman was transported to Dr.Breen's office at the top.

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So i pretty much agree with the comment that the Freeman's fighting a tiny tiny branch of the Combine themselves, the advisors in example show huge amount of telekenetik powers which pretty much proves that the Combine are damn powerful..
 
Garbel said:
the real combine (if i'd call it that) in the 7 hours war used synths that we haven't even seen in the game, or had a small glimse of, in example those spider-like synths who were patrolling the citadel when Freeman was transported to Dr.Breen's office at the top.

HL2Synth.jpg


So i pretty much agree with the comment that the Freeman's fighting a tiny tiny branch of the Combine themselves, the advisors in example show huge amount of telekenetik powers which pretty much proves that the Combine are damn powerful..
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Crab Synths.
 
Crab Synths are so cool! Wish they would show us one in action...
 
The Combine we fight in the games are not even close to what Earth dealt with during the 7 hour war. That's why it is so important to stop the super portal from opening
 
Knowing humans, I bet we spent the time we had between the Resonance Cascade, the Portal Storms and the Seven-Hour War trying to work out which country was responsible.
 
Jintor said:
Knowing humans, I bet we spent the time we had between the Resonance Cascade, the Portal Storms and the Seven-Hour War trying to work out which country was responsible.
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That would make a lot of sense.
 
The Mexicans likely got blamed by everybody.
 
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