The Democratic Hopefuls

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Well, Hillary Clinton has just thrown her hat into the ring...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6282389.stm

I'm not American, and I'm interested to know how everyone over there feels about Clinton, Obama et al...

How do you guys feel about the democratic nominations? Who would you vote for? As the article says, the American public almost has a dichotomy on their hands regarding Clinton...

Course, I s'pose republicans wouldn't vote for either :p But I'm interested in your opinions either way.
 
She'll never win. I like some aspects of her, dislike others, but the simple truth is this: she inspires so much hate that she will NEVER make it.

I'm behind Obama.
 
If she became president it would be very very bad news for the games industry.
 
Osama not, I like Juliani.

Juliani is very popular in New York, he's a conservative whom also believe's in liberal thinking. He's not just for one party, kind of reminds me of Teddy Roosevelt.
 
KaMaKaZi-BLiTz said:
Osama not, I like Juliani.

Juliani is very popular in New York, he's a conservative whom also believe's in liberal thinking. He's not just for one party, kind of reminds me of Teddy Roosevelt.
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I don't think juliani has the political wit to be president, he will run on a bloody shirt campaign, he's only popular because of 9/11.
 
Obama, although I like Biden too.

Clinton is... I dunno. You could certainly do a lot worse, but she's far from optimal.
 
Obama's really the only Democrat candidate I like. I'm hoping Guiliani and/or McCain for Republicans. But if not, I'll probably be behind Obama.
 
Incidentally, who are the likely republican candidates? I haven't really checked them out.
 
JNightshade said:
She'll never win. I like some aspects of her, dislike others, but the simple truth is this: she inspires so much hate that she will NEVER make it.

I'm behind Obama.
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dude,I totally agree with you.
 
Obama ftw!

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Obama ftw, while he's much younger he seems to have a much more well-adjusted view at America.
 
jondy said:
Incidentally, who are the likely republican candidates? I haven't really checked them out.
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The only one I know of is McCain - he supports teaching intelligent design and he's anti-abortion, so that's all I really need to know about him.

There's no ****ing way that I'll vote for Hillary and McCain doesn't look any good, so if Obama decides to run, he's got my vote.
 
They all suck. Didn't Hillary state on numerous occasions that she wasn't going to run? I guess she's learned from her husband and Bush: no one gives a shit about the truth anymore.
 
I would currently vote for Clinton. But we'll see how things go.
 
Dude,she compares Porn to Cocaine.
Also she'e making "anti game" stuff with Thompson.
 
She's actually tempered a lot of her initial anti-game zealotry with sanity more recently. Still, not my choice.

I like McCain. I really do. But politics is politics, and there are many of his views I don't agree with. But I will respect him for having a level head when it comes to these things instead of going on rampant partisan spiels.
 
I don't like any of them. I'm peronally hoping for an unknown underdog to come about.

I guess I'd vote for McCain if there was no one else that was any good. Obama seems too young and inexperienced, but could make a good president someday. Hillary's right out. People think things are f*cked up now, but I can't even imagine what she would do to the country.
 
Icarusintel said:
Hillary's right out. People think things are f*cked up now, but I can't even imagine what she would do to the country.
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What, specifically, are you afraid she would do to the country? What specific policies of hers do you feel would be detrimental to our society? Just curious.
 
What, exactly, has Obama done to deserve such adoration? He's a two-year Senator. He makes nice feel-good speeches, in which he never really says much. He's from my state, too, but I never heard of him until he ran for the US Senate.

Solaris said:
I'm with Obama.
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That certainly improves my view of Obama........


As for Hillary......:LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :eek:
 
I don't understand why people hold such a grudge against Hillary. She seems to be very popular in New York...
 
Probably because she's a New York senator.

I like her husband, but not her at all.
 
I like Obama because of his inexperience. While that's arguably his biggest weakness, it's also his greatest advantage. He's a fresh face with a strong sense of bipartisanship (which is something this country desparately needs), and any tendrils of the political machine that may have begun to embed themselves into his body have yet to take hold.

He's against the permanent tax cuts for the billionaires.
He supports network neutrality.
He supports a phased withdrawal of troops from Iraq.
He's pro-choice.

Granted, I think we should be marginalizing evangelicals instead of reaching out to them (as he proposes). And there are a lot of vague areas of his agenda that he needs to flesh out. But he still has time to do so. So we'll see.
 
Absinthe said:
He's against the permanent tax cuts for the billionaires.
He supports network neutrality.
He supports a phased withdrawal of troops from Iraq.
He's pro-choice.
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Jeez, he doesn't stand a chance.
 
Not Obama. Purely because we'll have to endure 4 years of Osama bin Laden jokes.
 
I think your avatar says that opinion quite clearly.
 
I wonder how many people would vote for or against Obama for the wrong reasons (namely his race).
 
Her surname, mate :) She was behind 'Clintoncare' as well, people still dig up the whitewater case, and some of her policies are... controversial. I'm sure there's more.
 
jondy said:
Her surname, mate :) She was behind 'Clintoncare' as well, people still dig up the whitewater case, and some of her policies are... controversial. I'm sure there's more.
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Tbh, I don't at all think that's it. Personally, I loved Clinton, personal issues be damned. However...

Social conservatives dislike her because she's a forceful, commanding woman
Gamers dislike her because she's got ties to Jack Thompson
Liberals dislike her because she's been rather hawkish
Fiscal conservatives dislike her because... well, a democrat


And so on and so forth. Personally, I don't have much against her, but there are just too many factors against her.
 
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