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Since E3 gonna start tomorrow ( 17 - 20 ), i started this thread so everyone could post any news , screenshots , videos etc.. here. :bounce:

soo what will be in E3 tomorrow
Tomorrow Sony will show the PS3 at Sony's press conference .


P.S Mods Stick this please :P
 
tomorrow... all the main competitors will show their new systems... not just Sony :|
 
Hmmm

Pre-E3 Conferences:

Sony

Date: Monday May 16th, 10:00pm GMT
Free Webcast: http://www.e3.playstation.com (Almost certainly)

Microsoft

Date: Tuesday May 17th, 1:45am GMT
Free Webcast: http://www.xbox.com/en-us

Nintendo

Date: Tuesday May 17th, 4:00pm GMT
Free Webcast: http://www.nintendo.com (Unconfirmed, but it was there last year)
http://www.gccafe.com also claims to be showing a live webcast.
Nintendo of Europe have their own E3 site now at http://ms.nintendo-europe.com/e3/enGB

Taken off another forum. E3 doesn't start until Wednesday, and so these are PRE E3 conferences for the systems.

Go to e3expo.com to check even. Expo starts Wednesday, Conferences is on the 17th (when M$ and Nintendo show it off)
 
Anyone got the Hitch-Hiker's guide to E3 yet?
 
i'm gonna put those numbers into california time (where the expo is)

Pre-E3 Conferences:

Sony

Date: Monday May 16th, 3:00pm PST
Free Webcast: http://www.e3.playstation.com (Almost certainly)

Microsoft

Date: Monday May 16th, 6:45pm PST
Free Webcast: http://www.xbox.com/en-us

Nintendo

Date: Monday May 16th, 9:00pm PST
Free Webcast: http://www.nintendo.com (Unconfirmed, but it was there last year)
http://www.gccafe.com also claims to be showing a live webcast.
Nintendo of Europe have their own E3 site now at http://ms.nintendo-europe.com/e3/enGB
 
omg, E3 is tomorrow. Damn, that crept up faster than expected(not that I wanted to wait)
 
seinfeldrules said:
Is Nintendo actually unveiling the Revolution?
I think so

omg cant wait to see the PS3
i heared they will show MGS4 ^^
 
I'm waiting to see:
Prince of Persia: Kindred Blades
Quake IV
Metal Gear Solid 4
Hideo Kojima's other new game (I hope it's another Zone of the Enders game)
Ninja Gaiden 2 (If possible)
Xbox 360 stuff
I can't believe it's this time of the year already.
 
kirovman said:
Any Valve news?
Valve will show : HL2 Xbox version and The Lost Coast only ,They didnt say anything about Aftermath :(
 
Teh b!G E3 Li$7 !


1C Company
Adrenalin (PC)
Ascention to the Throne (PC)
Blood Magic (PC)
Brigade E5: New Jagged Union (PC)
Captain Blood (PC, Xbox)
Cuban Missle Crisis (PC)
Desert Law (PC)
Outfront II (PC)
Perkan II (PC)
Perimeter: Emperor's Testament (PC)
PT Boats: Knights of the Sea (PC)
Rig'n'Roll (PC)
Sniper (PC)
Space Rangers 2: Dominators (PC)
Stalingrad (PC)
Swashbucklers: Legacy of Drake (PC, PS2)
Vivisector: Beast Inside (PC)
Whirlwind of Vietnam (PC)
World War I (PC)
WWII: RTS (PC)
XIII Century: Sword and Honor (PC)
You Are Empty (PC)

2K Games
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (Cube, GBA, PC, PS2, Xbox)
NBA 2K6 (PS2, Xbox)
NHL 2K6 (PS2, Xbox)
Prey (PC)
Serious Sam II (PC, Xbox)
Sid Meier's Pirates! (Xbox)
Top Spin (PS2)
World Poker Tour (Unspecified Consoles)

404 Gaming
Hip-Hop Legends (PS2)

Activision
Call of Duty 2 (PC)
Call of Duty Console Sequel (PS2, Xbox)
Fantastic Four (GCN, PS2, Xbox)
The Movies (PC, PS2, Xbox)

The Adventure Company
Agatha Christie: And Then There Were None (PC)

Akella
Age of Pirates (PC)
Captain Blood (Xbox, PC)
Dead Mountaineer Hotel (working title) (PC)
Enosta: Discovery Beyond (PC)
Hard to be God (working title) (PC)
Heavy Duty (PC)
PT-boats: Knights of the Sea (PC)
Rage Rider (PS2, PC)
Raiders of the Lost Casino (PC)
Swashbucklers: Blue & Grey (PS2, PC)
S.M.E.R.S.H. (PC)

Atari
Dragonshard (PC)
Dungeons & Dragons Online (PC)
Indigo Prophecy (PC, PS2, Xbox)
Marc Ecko's Getting Up: Contents Under Pressure (PS2, Xbox)
The Matrix: Path of Neo (PC, PS2, Xbox)
RollerCoaster Tycoon 3: Soaked! (PC)
TimeShift (PC, Xbox)
Tycoon City: New York (PC)

Atlus Software
Magna Carta: Tears of Blood (PS2)
Samurai Western (PS2)
SBK: Snowboard Kids DS (DS)
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2 (PS2)
Riviera: The Promised Land (GBA)
Trauma Center: Under the Knife (DS)

Bandai
D.I.C.E. (PS2)
Digimon World 4 (Cube, PS2, Xbox)
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex (GCN, PS2, Xbox)
InuYasha: Feudal Combat (PS2)
Mobile Suit Gundam SEED: Never Ending Tomorrow (DS, GBA)
One Piece (DS, GBA)
One Piece: Grand Battle! (GBA, Cube, DS, PS2)
Zatch Bell (Cube, PS2)

Bethesda Softworks
The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion (Next-Gen, PC)

Blizzard Entertainment
StarCraft: Ghost (Cube, PS2, Xbox)

Buena Vista Games
Chicken Little (GCN, GBA, PC, PS2, Xbox)
The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe (Cube, DS, GBA, PC, PS2, PSP, Xbox)
Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas: Oogie's Revenge (PS2, Xbox)

Buka Entertainment
Battle Mages: Sign of Darkness (PC)
Hellforces (PC)
Moscow Rush (PC)
Operation: Matriarchy (PC)
Pacific Storm (PC)
Pathologic (PC)
The Stalin Subway (PC)

Capcom
Beat Down: Fists of Vengeance (PS2, Xbox)
Flipnic Ultimate Pinball (PS2)
Killer 7 (Cube, PS2)
Mega Man Battle Network 5: Team Colonel (GBA)
Mega Man Battle Network 5: Team Protoman (GBA)
Onimusha: Dawn of Dreams (PS2)
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (DS)
Without Warning (PS2, Xbox)

CDV
The Witcher (PC)

CDV
Blitzkrieg II (PC)
American Conquest: Divided Nation (PC)
Codename: Panzers, Phase Two (PC)
War Front: Turning Point (PC)
War Leaders: Clash of Nations (PC)

Cenega
El Matador (PC)
The Roots (PC, Xbox)
UFO: Aftershock (PC)

Crave Entertainment
Sno-Cross 2 Featuring Blair Morgan (PS2, Xbox)
World Championship Poker 2 (PS2, Xbox)

Deep Silver
D1RT (PC, PS2)
Earth 2160 (PC)
Heart of Empire: Rome (PC)
Rush for Berlin (PC)
Singles 2: Triple Trouble (PC)
X3: Reunion (PC)

Destination Software, Inc.
Big Mutha Truckers (DS, GBA)
Ford Racing 3 (DS, GBA)
SRS: Street Racing Syndicate (DS, GBA)
Snood 2: On Vacation (DS, GBA)
Pac-Man World 2 (GBA)
Chicken Shoot (GBA)
Chicken Shoot 2 (GBA)
Risk / Battleship / Clue (GBA)
Aggravation / Sorry / Scrabble Jr. (GBA)
Trouble / Connect Four / Perfection (Next-Gen)
Gauntlet / Rampart (GBA)
Klax / Marble Madness (GBA)
Paperboy / Rampage (GBA)
Spy Hunter / Super Sprint (GBA)
Chess / Checkers / Backgammon (GBA)
Millipede / Super Breakout / Lunar Lander (GBA)
Asteroids / Pong / Yar's Revenge (GBA)
Breakout / Centipede / Warlords (GBA)

Digital Extremes
Dark Sector (Next-Gen)

DreamCatcher Interactive
Cold War (PC)
Painkiller (Xbox)

Eidos
25 to Life (PC, PS2, Xbox)
Commandos Strike Force (PC, PS2, Xbox)
Hitman: Blood Money (PC, PS2, Xbox)
Tomb Raider Legend (PC, PS2, Xbox)

Electronic Arts
Batman Begins (Cube, GBA, PS2, Xbox)
Battlefield 2 (PC)
Battlefield 2: Modern Combat (PS2, Xbox)
Black & White 2 (PC)
Burnout Revenge (PS2, Xbox)
The Godfather (PC, PS2, PSP, Xbox, Next-Gen)
GoldenEye: Rogue Agent (DS)
James Bond 007: From Russia with Love (Cube, PS2, Xbox)
Madden NFL 2006 (Cube, PC, PS2, PSP, Xbox)
Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects (Cube, PS2, PSP, Xbox)
Medal of Honor: European Assault (Cube, PS2, Xbox)
NASCAR: Chase for the Cup 2006 (Cube, PC, PS2, Xbox)
Need for Speed: Most Wanted (Cube, DS, GBA, PC, PS2, PSP, Xbox)
NCAA Football 2006 (Cube, PS2, Xbox)
The Sims 2: Nightlife (PC)

F4G Software
ATV 3 (PS2, Xbox)
Interview with a Made Man (PS2, Xbox)

Farlan Entertainment
Dark and Light (PC)

Flying Labs
Pirates of the Burning Sea (PC)

Funcom
Age of Conan: Hyborian Adventures (PC)
Anarchy Online: Lost Eden (PC)
Dreamfall: The Longest Journey (PC)

High Moon Studios
Darkwatch (PS2, Xbox)

Hip Games
Call of Cthulhu: Destiny's End (PC, PS2, Xbox) City of the Dead (PC, Consoles)
Ghost Wars (PC)
Rugby Challenge 2006 (PC, PS2, Xbox)

Imaginary Numbers
Tactica Online (PC)

JoWood Productions
Gothic III (PC)
Stargate SG-1: The Alliance (PC, PS2, Xbox)
Spellforce II: Blend of Perfection (PC)
Panzer Elite Action (PC, PS2, Xbox)
The Guild 2 (PC)
Ski Racing 2006 (PC, PS2, Xbox)
Hotel Giant 2 (PC)
Yetisports Deluxe (PC)
Aquanox: The Angel's Tears (PS2)
Legend of Kay (PS2)

KOEI
Colosseum: Road to Freedom (PS2)
Romance of the Three Kingdoms X (PS2)
Uncharted Waters Online (PC)

Konami
Castlevania DS (DS)
Castlevania: Curse of Darkness (PS2)
Coded Arms (PSP)
Death Jr. (PSP)
S.L.A.I. (PS2)

LucasArts
Star Wars Battlefront II (PC, PS2, Xbox)
Star Wars: Empire at War (PC)
Star Wars Galaxies: Episode III Rage of the Wookiees (PC)

Majesco
Advent Rising (PC, Xbox)
Advent Shadow (PSP)
Aeon Flux (PS2, Xbox)
ATV: Quad Frenzy (DS)
Bloodrayne (PSP)
The Darkness (Next-Gen)
Infected (PSP)
Jaws Unleashed (PS2, Xbox)
Nanostray (DS)
Psychonauts (PS2)
Texas Hold 'Em Poker (DS)

Mastiff
Pump it Up: Exceed (PS2, Xbox)

Microsoft
Perfect Dark Zero (Next-Gen)

Midway
Blitz: The League (PS2, Xbox)
Fear & Respect (PS2, Xbox)
Gauntlet: Seven Sorrows (PS2, Xbox)
L.A. Rush (PS2, Xbox)
Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks (PS2, Xbox)
Rise and Fall: Civilizations at War (PC)
The Suffering: Ties That Bind (PC, PS2, Xbox)

Mirinae Entertainment
Kahn the Absolute Power (PC)

Mythic Entertainment
Imperatior (PC)
Untitled Dark Age of Camelot Expansion (PC)

Namco
Arc the Lad: End of Darkness (PS2)
Dead to Rights: Reckoning (PSP)
Gumby vs. the Astrobots (GBA)
Hellgate: London (PC)
Hello Kitty Roller Rescue
HUGO Bukkazoom! (GBA)
MotoGP4 (PS2)
Namco Museum Battle Collection (PSP)
Pac-Man World 3 (Cube, PS2, Xbox)
Shogun Warrior: Real-Time Conflict (DS)
Soulcalibur III (PS2)
Tales of Legendia (PS2)
We Love Katamari (PS2)

Natsume
Chulip (PS2)
Finny the Fish & the Seven Waters (PS2)
Harvest Moon: Another Wonderful Life (Cube)
Harvest Moon: More Friends of Mineral Town (GBA)

NCSoft
Auto Assault (PC)
City of Villains (PC)
Guild Wars (PC)
Tabula Rasa (PC)

Nevrax
The Saga of Ryzom (PC)

Nokia
Catan (N-Gage)
Civilization (N-Gage)
Glimmerati (N-Gage)
High Seize (N-Gage)
Mile High Pinball (N-Gage)
ONE (N-Gage)
Payload (N-Gage)
Rifts: Promise of Power (N-Gage)
System Rush (N-Gage)

Nintendo
Advance Wars DS (DS)
Animal Crossing DS (DS)
Dance Dance Revolution with Mario (Cube)
Donkey Konga 2 (Cube)
Fire Emblem: Souen no Kiseki (Cube)
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones (GBA)
Geist (Cube)
Kirby: Cursed Canvas (DS)
Mario Kart DS (DS)
Metroid Prime: Hunters (DS)
New Super Mario Bros. (DS)
Nintendogs (DS)
Nintendo Pennant Chase Baseball (Cube)
Odama (Cube)
The Legend of Zelda (Cube)

NIS America
Atelier Iris ~Eternal Mana~ (PS2)
Makai Kingdom: Chronicles of the Sacred Tome (PS2)

On Games
Professional Manager 2006 (PC)
Fallen Lords: Condemnation (PC)
Yume (PC)
The Legend of Dragon (PC)

Perpetual Entertainment
Gods and Heroes:Rome Rising (PC)

SEGA
Condemned (Next-Gen)
Phantasy Star Universe (PC, PS2)
Shadow the Hedgehog (Cube, PS2, Xbox)
Shining Force Neo (PS2)
Spartan: Total Warrior (PS2, Xbox)

Simultronics
Hero's Journey (PC)

SNK Playmore
King of Fighters '94 Re-Bout (Xbox)
King of Fighters 02/03 (Xbox)
King of Fighters: Maximum Impact - Maniax (Xbox)
Metal Slug 1 (GBA)
Metal Slug 4 & 5 (PS2, Xbox)
Samurai Shodown V (Xbox)

Sony Computer Entertainment
EyeToy: Chat (PS2)
EyeToy: Kinetic (PS2)
EyeToy: Play 2 (PS2)
Genji: Dawn of the Samurai (PS2)
Jak X: Combat Racing (PS2)
MediEvil Ressurection (PS2)
NBA '06 (PS2)
Ratchet: Deadlocked (PS2)
Road to Sunday (PS2)
Sly 3: Honor Among Thieves (PS2)
SOCOM 3: U.S. Navy SEALs (PS2)

Sony Online Entertainment
EverQuest II Expansion (PC)
Untitled Handheld Game #1 (PSP)
Untitled Handheld Game #2 (PSP)

Square Enix
Dirge of Cerberus - Final Fantasy VII (PS2)
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King (PS2)
Final Fantasy XII (PS2)
Fullmetal Alchemist 2: Curse of the Crimson Elixir (PS2)
Radiata Stores (PS2)
Romancing SaGa (PS2)
Final Fantasy XI (PC, PS2)
Front Mission Online (PC, PS2)
Before Crisis - Final Fantasy VII (Mobile)
Final Fantasy II (Mobile)
Final Fantasy VII Snowboarding (Mobile)
Front Mission 2089 (Mobile)
Hexcite Fusion (Mobile)
Musashi Mobile Samurai (Mobile)
Final Fantasy VII Advent Children (PSP, DVD)

Sunflowers
ParaWorld (PC)

Team Tarsier
Metronome (PC, Next-Gen)

THQ
Battlestations: Midway (PC, PS2, Xbox)
Big Mutha Truckers DS (DS)
Big Mutha Truckers 2 (PS2, Xbox)
Bratz (GBA, PC, PS2)
Danny Phantom (GBA)
Destroy All Humans (PS2, Xbox)
Fairly OddParents (DS)
The Incredibles 2 (Cube, DS, GBA, PS2, Xbox)
Juiced (PS2, Xbox)
Moto GP 3 (Xbox)
Nicktoons (DS)
Power Rangers (GBA)
Scooby-Doo! Unmasked (Cube, DS, GBA, PS2, Xbox)
SpongeBob SquarePants Party (Cube, DS, PC, PS2, Xbox)
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. (PC)
Tak 3 (Cube, DS, GBA, PS2, Xbox)
Untitled Console Game #1 (Next-Gen)
Untitled Console Game #2 (Next-Gen)
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War - Winter Assault (PC)
WWE Day of Reckoning 2 (Cube)
Zoo Tycoon (DS)

TKO Software
Heaven vs. Hell (DS)

Track7 Games
Thesis (PC, Next-Gen)

Turbine
Dungeons & Dragons Online: Stormreach (PC)
The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar (PC)

Ubisoft
187 Ride or Die (PS2, Xbox)
America's Army: Rise of a Soldier (PS2, Xbox)
AND 1 Streetball (PS2)
Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII (Xbox)
Brothers in Arms Road to Hill 30: New Chapter (PC, Xbox)
Far Cry Instincts (Xbox)
Heroes of Might & Magic V (PC)
Myst V: End of Ages (PC)
Peter Jackson's King Kong (PS2, Xbox, Next-Gen)
Prince of Persia 3 (PS2, Xbox)
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon 3 (Next-Gen)
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Lockdown (PS2, Xbox)

Vivendi Universal
50 Cent: Bulletproof (PS2, Xbox)
Crash Tag Team Racing (Cube, DS, PS2, Xbox)
F.E.A.R. (PC)
The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction (Cube, PC, PS2, Xbox)
Scarface (PC, PS2, Xbox)

Warner Bros. Interactive
Batman Begins (GCN, GBA, PS2, Xbox)
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (Cube, GBA, PC, PS2, Xbox)
ER (PC)
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (DS, GCN, GBA, PC, PS2, PSP, Xbox)
The Matrix Online (PC)
The Matrix: Path of Neo (PC, PS2, Xbox)
Scooby-Doo! Unmasked (GCN, DS, GBA, PS2, Xbox)

Webzen
Huxley (PC, Next-Gen)
SUN: Soul of the Ultimate Nation (PC)

WildTangent
FATE (PC)



Taken from gamespy
 
DigiQ8 said:
w00000000000t
IM SO FUK*** HAPPY !

i wasnt sure if it was true !, but finally it confirmed !
yeah me too, fu*k yes, *hugs digi*, i cant wait :D .
 
Jeebus Christ, so much to look forward to, and I wont get to see a thing of it. I leave for Navy Basic Training in two hours! AAHHH!

I will be back in about 10 weeks hunting down e3 stuffs!
 
DigiQ8 said:
but its not a Kojima Game :(
well i still think it'll rock tbh, he'll make sure it wont blow, hes still watching over the project, im so pysched for e3 now although it looks as if it'll be on the sony ps3 stand rather than the konami 1 so it will probably just be a few clips, they only started working on it and each mgs game takes 3 years to make so we'll see, i hope they reveal the environment, "no place to hide" etc.
 
jimbo118 said:
well i still think it'll rock tbh, he'll make sure it wont blow, hes still watching over the project, im so pysched for e3 now although it looks as if it'll be on the sony ps3 stand rather than the konami 1 so it will probably just be a few clips, they only started working on it and each mgs game takes 3 years to make so we'll see, i hope they reveal the environment, "no place to hide" etc.
omg cant wait !
 
Why doesnt it mention Xbox 360 and ps3 in that list?
or is it just for the games itself?

edit: hows that MGS4 footage comming along?
 
Chav said:
Why doesnt it mention Xbox 360 and ps3 in that list?
or is it just for the games itself?

And Nintendo Revolution...

:|
 
Guys in this Thread I will do my best to put everything in E3

Viewtiful Joe VFX Battle First Screens

The game will release on PS2 and NGC

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Resident Evil 4 screens ( PS2 Version )

I think Capcom has done a good work at PS2
The game will Release on Q4 2005

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Okami new Screens

in this game you will play as Okami The dog who try to free the enviroment's colors form evils ( nice idea eh !)

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Devil Kings Details & Screens

Devil Kings. Exclusive to the PlayStation 2, the game is described by Capcom as "a fast-paced action game that pit players as one of various heroes in a land of warring nations." Players will be able to choose from a roster of "heroic warriors" all with their own individual fighting styles and powers, including magic attacks. Players will "lead their hero into a succession of hostile confrontations against an onslaught of opponents" in order to unify a shattered kingdom. Devil Kings is set for release in 2006.

This game will be like a new sequel of the old one ( Released on Nes )
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First Leaked Video Form inside E3

The video shows you the hole place from outside and insde The Building and shows a few games from Nintendo Section ( NFl 2006 Just WOW )

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2K Games announce its games for Xbox 360

Amped 3 (exclusively)
Top Spin 2 (exclusively)
NHL 2K6
College
Hoops 2K6

http://gamenavigator***/pub/gallery/news/news2005012603_s.jpg

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Final Fantasy VII - Advent Children Release Date

Squer-Enix Announced that the game will Release on 9/14/2005 For DVDs
and No date for UMDs till now

in japan it will be a 4800 yen ( convert it to Dollar ?? )

The Producer is Tetuya Nomura
The Composer is Nobuo Uematsu

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First Screens The Godfather & Tiger Woods On Xbox 360

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gametrailers.com is a useful site for shaky cam vids as well, they tend to feature 10-15 vids a day for E3
 
weskerQ8 said:
First Leaked Video Form inside E3

The video shows you the hole place from outside and insde The Building and shows a few games from Nintendo Section ( NFl 2006 Just WOW )

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2K Games announce its games for Xbox 360

Amped 3 (exclusively)
Top Spin 2 (exclusively)
NHL 2K6
College
Hoops 2K6

http://gamenavigator***/pub/gallery/news/news2005012603_s.jpg

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Final Fantasy VII - Advent Children Release Date

Squer-Enix Announced that the game will Release on 9/14/2005 For DVDs
and No date for UMDs till now

in japan it will be a 4800 yen ( convert it to Dollar ?? )

The Producer is Tetuya Nomura
The Composer is Nobuo Uematsu

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First Screens The Godfather & Tiger Woods On Xbox 360

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Link for the E3 vid? It won't let me click on the green one.
 
is the MGS series coming to PC? everyone raves on MGS3... and i really want to play it, but i have no consoles. woe is me :(
 
oldagerocker said:
is the MGS series coming to PC? everyone raves on MGS3... and i really want to play it, but i have no consoles. woe is me :(
i doubt mgs3 will, 4 maybe although it looks like sony got kojima again to promote their console just like the ps2 and mgs2 so it'll probably be a ps3 exclusive.
 
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