The Revolution Will Not Be Televised

[B_MAN]

http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/19004/The_Revolution_Will_Not_Be_Televised

an astonishing documentary filmed preceding and during the failed Venezuelan coup of 2002
the extent to which the so-called transitional goverment and its supporters go to spin the truth on television and radio is incredible

it's important to note that venezuela, at the time, was the 4th largest exporter (3rd according to a US spokesperson) of oil
a quote from wikipedia:
"The petroleum sector dominates the economy, accounting for roughly a third of Venezuela's GDP, around 80% of export earnings, and more than half of government revenues. The oil sector operates through the government-owned Petroleos de Venezuela (PDVSA), which among other things owns the US-based distributor CITGO, with more than 14,000 retail gasoline outlets in the United States under its brand."
unfortunately, only the wealthy minority in Venezuela and US investors/owners benefit

chavez is a man of the people, supporting equality and growth in all areas of life, however his resistance to the US and its Free Trade Area of the Americas scheme is at the heart of his 'controversy'
some say the US government supported the failed coup of 2002
i implore you to decide for yourself; watch the documentary, do your own research, form your own opinion

 

[Hazar]

I thought you were talking about the wii there for a second D:

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

The coup was righteous and it's sad to see that the rights dwindling Chavez got to remain in power.

 

[Jintor]

Where's that quote from? It's vaguely familiar.

 

[el Chi]

The US? Secretly involved in backing a coup in a democratically-elected Socialist-governed Latin American country? Surely not?

Where's that quote from? It's vaguely familiar.

The Revolution Will Not Be Televised, a brilliant song by Gil Scott Heron.

 

[Icarusintel]

Eh, I could care less if there was a coup attempt... too bad it didn't succeed

 

[Sulkdodds]

So how much do you care?

 

[CptStern]

Eh, I could care less if there was a coup attempt... too bad it didn't succeed

I'm willing to bet you have no clue as to why it should have succeeded:

"if america supports overthrowing a democratically elected head of state then it must be good! god-bless america! let freedom reign!! ...O beautiful for spacious skies, For amber waves of grain ..."


thanks for the link B_man will watch tonight when I get a chance

So how much do you care?

... less? but not as much as that thing over there

 

[Sulkdodds]

I was trying to point out that HE COULDN'T CARE LESS. COULDN'T. NOT COULD CARE LESS. THAT MAKES NO SENSE. ARGH!

 

[CptStern]

but he's saying he could care less ...as in "it's not bad, I'll care less later if the circumstances were to change but for right now I care less for other more important things and care more for less important things" ....less is more, more or less

 

[Icarusintel]

I'm willing to bet you have no clue as to why it should have succeeded:

"if america supports overthrowing a democratically elected head of state then it must be good! god-bless america! let freedom reign!! ...O beautiful for spacious skies, For amber waves of grain ..."

Yeah, I'm just a dumbf*ck patriot.

No, I find no reason to care about this because there are far more important things happening in the world, like the civil and ethnic wars in Africa. Or how about Iranian nuclear technology, or maybe just the fact that North Korea actually has nuclear weapons. And those are current issues, not something that happened 4 years ago. As great as it is to know the past (I'm a history major, trust me, I care about the past) the present is a whole lot more important. People are dying right now that could be helped. You'll have to forgive me if that seems a bit more important that "the US may have helped in an unsuccessful coup 4 years ago".

So, yeah, I couldn;t be asked to give two shits about this right now. Besides, the coup was unsuccessful, so, as I see it, it really doesn't matter anyway.

but he's saying he could care less ...as in "it's not bad, I'll care less later if the circumstances were to change but for right now I care less for other more important things and care more for less important things" ....less is more, more or less

Are you on crack?

 

[CptStern]

Yeah, I'm just a dumbf*ck patriot.

No, I find no reason to care about this because there are far more important things happening in the world, like the civil and ethnic wars in Africa. Or how about Iranian nuclear technology, or maybe just the fact that North Korea actually has nuclear weapons. And those are current issues, not something that happened 4 years ago. As great as it is to know the past (I'm a history major, trust me, I care about the past) the present is a whole lot more important. People are dying right now that could be helped. You'll have to forgive me if that seems a bit more important that "the US may have helped in an unsuccessful coup 4 years ago".

i find it hard to believe you're a history major yet are unconcerned about the past ...oh it wasnt there first or last attempt ..the bush admin still villifies and has publically stated they want regime change in venezuela ..in fact many believe there was an assassination/coup plot in 2004 involving cia paid columbian paramilitaries

So, yeah, I couldn;t be asked to give two shits about this right now. Besides, the coup was unsuccessful, so, as I see it, it really doesn't matter anyway.

you dont seem to be concerned by any political hotspots the world round ..even the ones where your country is actively involved ..odd for a history major

Are you on crack?

not atm

 

[Icarusintel]

i find it hard to believe you're a history major yet are unconcerned about the past ...oh it wasnt there first or last attempt ..the bush admin still villifies and has publically stated they want regime change in venezuela ..in fact many believe there was an assassination/coup plot in 2004 involving cia paid columbian paramilitaries

you dont seem to be concerned by any political hotspots the world round ..even the ones where your country is actively involved ..odd for a history major

Well I don't spend an hour or two every day reading through the news and sorting through it in my head just to say I did. But as far as things are concerned right now, there are bigger issues than what happened in Venezuela 4 years ago. The most effect that has right is on the price of oil. Beyond that, Cahvez doesn;t really matter on the world stage. He's akin to Kim Jong Il, he wants publicity and doesn't seem to care whether it's good or bad.

And as far as history's concerned, I prefer Asian history, mostly concerned with the early Chinese Dynasties and the Japanese Shoguns.

 

[Sulkdodds]

You say there are bigger things to worry about but here you are, chatting...on an internet forum. In a thread about Venezuala. Do you think humans have some kind of care limit or something? Like there's too much going on so you're too busy caring about other stuff to give a shit about this? Why are you in this thread then?

not yet

Fixed.

 

[CptStern]

Well I don't spend an hour or two every day reading through the news and sorting through it in my head just to say I did. But as far as things are concerned right now, there are bigger issues than what happened in Venezuela 4 years ago. The most effect that has right is on the price of oil. Beyond that, Cahvez doesn;t really matter on the world stage. He's akin to Kim Jong Il, he wants publicity and doesn't seem to care whether it's good or bad.

And as far as history's concerned, I prefer Asian history, mostly concerned with the early Chinese Dynasties and the Japanese Shoguns.

venezuela has one of the world's largest oil reserves ...saying it doesnt matter is being shortsighted

 

[Icarusintel]

Why are you in this thread then?

Because I'm at work acting as a receptionist, and I'm bored as hell. :E

 

[B_MAN]

I was trying to point out that HE COULDN'T CARE LESS. COULDN'T. NOT COULD CARE LESS. THAT MAKES NO SENSE. ARGH!

been sayin that for years

 

[B_MAN]

Well I don't spend an hour or two every day reading through the news and sorting through it in my head just to say I did. But as far as things are concerned right now, there are bigger issues than what happened in Venezuela 4 years ago.

what's wrong with staying informed?
have you even bothered to watch the film?
please stay out of the discussion if you haven't