The Schiavo Hypocrisy

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After taking drastic (and highly publicized) measures to sustain Terry Schiavo in her vegetative state (against the wishes of her spouse) it seems that Bush may not be so supportive of his own "culture of life".

In 1999, then-Gov. Bush signed the Advance Directives Act, which lets a patient's surrogate make life-ending decisions on his or her behalf. The measure also allows Texas hospitals to disconnect patients from life-sustaining systems if a physician, in consultation with a hospital bioethics committee, concludes that the patient's condition is hopeless.

About two weeks before schiavo's feeding tube was removed, a 9 month old baby boy was removed from life support (against the will of his parents) because the family could not afford the care, all made possible by Bush's bill.

That seems to me as a large hypocrisy, and the act is a DIRECT contradiction to this so called culture of life. I guess oyu only have the right to live if you can pay the bills.
 
kmack said:
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After taking drastic (and highly publicized) measures to sustain Terry Schiavo in her vegetative state (against the wishes of her spouse) it seems that Bush may not be so supportive of his own "culture of life".



About two weeks before schiavo's feeding tube was removed, a 9 month old baby boy was removed from life support (against the will of his parents) because the family could not afford the care, all made possible by Bush's bill.

That seems to me as a large hypocrisy, and the act is a DIRECT contradiction to this so called culture of life. I guess oyu only have the right to live if you can pay the bills.


Doesn't removing a baby from a life support machine based on the parents not being able to afford the bills a breach of the doctors hypocratic (sp) oath to do no harm? Or was it that the baby was also in a vegative state as well and was no different to Terry Schiavo?
 
a Houston hospital disconnected a critically ill infant from his breathing tube last week against his mother's wishes after doctors determined that continuing life support would be futile.

sorta the way terri's husband felt (after 15 YEARs, 30 times this infants whole lifetime) when he wished to remove her from life support (as it were).
 
You should have made a poll about who expected this and who didn't. Cause c'mon this is Bush, even the most pro conservatives won't be surprised by this
 
Grey Fox said:
You should have made a poll about who expected this and who didn't. Cause c'mon this is Bush, even the most pro conservatives won't be surprised by this

the pro-convervatives just won't care :|
 
digging deeper:

There is one bit of context, however, that seems particularly salient, and it involves a six-month old boy named Sun Hudson. On Thursday, Hudson died after a Texas hospital removed his feeding tube, despite his mother's pleas. He had a fatal congenital disease, but would have been kept alive had his mother been able to pay for his medical costs, or had she found another institution willing to take him. In a related Texas case, Spiro Nikolouzos, who is unable to speak and must be fed through a tube because of a shunt in his brain – but who his wife says can recognize family members and show emotion – may soon be removed from life support because health care providers believe his case is futile.

Who thinks congress will help keep Spiro alive?

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I dont, and not to sound cold hearted but if the infant was gonna die, why waste your money? If you ask me, the doctors did it a favor, would you like to live like that?

Spiro case is interesting, becuase he just cannot speak. That in itself isn't bad, but he would have to learn sign language. If he could do that then no, they should keep him alive. Remember people said that Shiavo would recognise people and show emotion.
 
Kebean PFC said:
I dont, and not to sound cold hearted but if the infant was gonna die, why waste your money? If you ask me, the doctors did it a favor, would you like to live like that?

Spiro case is interesting, becuase he just cannot speak. That in itself isn't bad, but he would have to learn sign language. If he could do that then no, they should keep him alive. Remember people said that Shiavo would recognise people and show emotion.

exactly! but why then, would bush make such a huge deal over the exact same case with terri schiavo??? when he was ENABLING the EXACT SAME SITUATION on this side, and fighting it publicly on the other!
 
exactly! but why then, would bush make such a huge deal over the exact same case with terri schiavo??? when he was ENABLING the EXACT SAME SITUATION on this side, and fighting it publicly on the other!
I think it was to help his political career. Now people are supposed to say "Aww Bushie, he is sooo nice, he wanted her to wiv!" Seriously tho i think it was pure politics, also Shiavo was big! Everyone knew about terry where i live, so he was reaching more people with his "kindness" and pro-life crap.

Lets face it, Bush is two faced. I won't try to cover it, but since he is president i will support him for his term.
 
Kebean PFC said:
I think it was to help his political career. Now people are supposed to say "Aww Bushie, he is sooo nice, he wanted her to wiv!" Seriously tho i think it was pure politics, also Shiavo was big! Everyone knew about terry where i live, so he was reaching more people with his "kindness" and pro-life crap.

Lets face it, Bush is two faced. I won't try to cover it, but since he is president i will support him for his term.

and guess who the governer of florida is? jeb bush. and guess when he is up for reelection?
 
C'mon you two we all know that by now.

But here is a real hypocracy, the same religiouse fanatics that wanted shaivo to be kept alive, are against genetic(stemcell) research that could have made her or people like her in the future better. Now how's that for hypocracy.
 
kmack said:
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Who thinks congress will help keep Spiro alive?

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If the family don't want him to die, it should be the families decision. The doctors can only advise the family.
 
Razor said:
If the family don't want him to die, it should be the families decision. The doctors can only advise the family.

but, if you have been reading this, you will realize that the 6 month old infant was taken off life support was done so AGAINST his families wishes, and in COMPLIANCE with doctors orders.

The same situation is now happening to Spiro.
 
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