This really cooks my chicken...

[Danimal]

On the 25th of April, Australia and New Zealand celebrate ANZAC day (ANZAC stands for Australia and New Zealand Army Corps)


Anyway, the part that pisses me off is that the government is building a road in front of the landing zone where the ANZACs started battle. This road cuts through the path that they ran up. This kinda pisses me off.

Many people feel the same way. Some people that visit site try and run up the same path as they grandfathers or greatgrandfathers had to go through to truely appreciate they're work... Now, most of it is destroyed from that road.

What are your thoughts? Should roads, buildings etc be built over such historical sites for whatever the reason the government/company gives you?

 

[Kebean PFC]

No, nothing should be built over historic sites.

 

[baxter]

No,never, it's part of our history.

http://www.undiscoveredscotland.co.uk/inverness/culloden/

 

[Razor]

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. Such historic events of hardship and war should be forever remembered and the people who took part in them honoured.

 

[bvasgm]

In a country that's 80% empty space like Australia, no way. [Just kidding Danimal]

 

[GiaOmerta]

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. Such historic events of hardship and war should be forever remembered and the people who took part in them honoured.

Amen to that.

 

[Ennui]

There've been battles in Australia? I have only heard of Australian soldiers fighting elsewhere (a few in Vietnam, and quite a lot in World War II).

Still, it shouldn't be paved over like that. Pisses me off too.

 

[Danimal]

It was not in Australia.

(Although Japan did attack Australia in WWI I think)

 

[Ennui]

Where was it then?

 

[15357]

What are your thoughts? Should roads, buildings etc be built over such historical sites for whatever the reason the government/company gives you?

t3h goverment = yes

company = no, tie myself with steel chains if need be.

 

[Danimal]

Where was it then?

As part of the larger British Empire contingent the ANZACs were brought in from training in Egypt to participate. The ANZACs comprised the 1st Australian Division and the composite New Zealand and Australian Division. On 25 April 1915, the ANZACs landed on the Gallipoli Peninsula.

Instead of finding the flat beach they expected, they found they had been landed at an incorrect position and faced steep cliffs and constant barrages of enemy fire and shelling. Around 20,000 soldiers landed on the beach over the next two days to face a well organised, well armed, large Turkish force determined to defend their country - and led by Mustafa Kemal, who later became Atatürk, the leader of modern Turkey. Thousands of Australian and New Zealand men died in the hours and days that followed the landing at that beach. The beach would eventually come to be known as Anzac Cove.

What followed the landing at Gallipoli is a story of courage and endurance, of death, and despair, of poor leadership from London, and unsuccessful strategies. The ANZACs and the Turks dug in - literally - digging kilometres of trenches, and pinned down each other's forces with sniper fire and shelling. Pinned down with their backs to the water the ANZACs were unable to make much headway against the home-country force.


(http://www.acn.net.au/articles/anzac/)

 

[15357]

As part of the larger British Empire contingent the ANZACs were brought in from training in Egypt to participate. The ANZACs comprised the 1st Australian Division and the composite New Zealand and Australian Division. On 25 April 1915, the ANZACs landed on the Gallipoli Peninsula.

Instead of finding the flat beach they expected, they found they had been landed at an incorrect position and faced steep cliffs and constant barrages of enemy fire and shelling. Around 20,000 soldiers landed on the beach over the next two days to face a well organised, well armed, large Turkish force determined to defend their country - and led by Mustafa Kemal, who later became Atatürk, the leader of modern Turkey. Thousands of Australian and New Zealand men died in the hours and days that followed the landing at that beach. The beach would eventually come to be known as Anzac Cove.

What followed the landing at Gallipoli is a story of courage and endurance, of death, and despair, of poor leadership from London, and unsuccessful strategies. The ANZACs and the Turks dug in - literally - digging kilometres of trenches, and pinned down each other's forces with sniper fire and shelling. Pinned down with their backs to the water the ANZACs were unable to make much headway against the home-country force.


(http://www.acn.net.au/articles/anzac/)

i think i saw that on Discovery...

 

[Hazar]

CHICKEN!!! YUMMMM!!!!!

erm...

the government here has a neat system of taking your property here

 

[gh0st]

And Mel Gibson!

Anyway, no, the government shouldnt desecrate historical sites. I hate that it happens.

By the way, ANZAC cookies are pretty good.

 

[Pogrom]

It was not in Australia.

(Although Japan did attack Australia in WWI I think)

Japan attacked Australia in WWII. They bombed Darwin, killing 243, with between 300 and 400 injured.

It doesn't sound much, but keep in mind that the city of Darwin in 1942 had a population of around 2000.

And I don't agree with the building of the road at Gallipoli in principle. But basically there is nowhere at all in the general region where you can't throw a shovel and find bones. With the massive increase in Gallipoli tourism in recent years, the government is faced with the responsibility to create the infrastructure that will safely allow increased numbers of tourists.

It is a tough decision, and I'm glad I didn't have to make it. But I can't see a viable alternative. There is no way of removing all of the bodies before paving over with the road.

 

[Danimal]

Pogrom, I was not reffering to that. In Sydney 3 small subamrines (Ran by 2 men each) attacked Sydney but got p00ned by America.