Thrill Kill teen blames video games. Stepmother emails Penny Arcade

[CptStern]

wow what a ****ed up story

Teen 'sport killings' of homeless on the rise

All Nathan Moore says he wanted to do was smoke pot and get drunk with his friends.

Killing Rex Baum was never part of the plan that day in 2004.

"It all started off as a game," Moore said.

The 15-year-old and his friends were taunting the homeless man -- throwing sticks and leaves -- after having a couple of beers with him.

No big deal, Moore says, but he's sorry for what came next.

It was a mistake, he said, a sudden primal surge that made him and his friends Luis Oyola, 16, and 17-year-old Andrew Ihrcke begin punching and kicking Baum.

"Luis says 'I'm gonna go hit him,' We're all laughing, thought he was joking around,'" but he wasn't, Moore concedes. "We just all started hitting him."

They hurled anything they could find -- rocks, bricks, even Baum's barbecue grill -- and pounded the 49-year-old with a pipe and with the baseball bat he kept at his campsite for protection.

Ihrcke smeared his own feces on Baum's face before cutting him with a knife "to see if he was alive," Moore said.

After destroying Baum's camp, the boys left the homeless man -- head wedged in his own grill -- under a piece of plastic where they hoped the "animals would eat" him.

Then, Moore says, they took off to grab a bite at McDonald's.



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They bragged about it around town. Police picked them up and they described what happened.

Ihrcke told police that killing "the bum" reminded him of playing a violent video game, a police report shows.

Penny Arcade ran an article yesterday on the case blaming the parents

You might have seen this story on CNN about the teens that murdered a homeless guy and then equated it to the sort of thrill one might get from a ?violent video game?. There will be plenty of articles focusing on these kids and their crime. I?d like to take a second and talk about the parents of these teenagers instead.

stepmother of one of the killers, a fan of Penny Arcade emails Gabe about how utterly ****ed he was:

I don?t think I have ever actively hated anyone in my entire life, but this kid just makes my blood boil.

As I write this, my teeth are clenched, my hands are shaking, and my whole body is seething with the hatred I feel for this kid and what he has done. Seeing the article brings back all the horrible memories from when he lived with us.

He was constantly in trouble in school, with the cops, with us, with his mother, and with anyone else who was an authority figure. Not a week went by that the school or the cops wouldn?t call us for something. His attitude was basically ?**** you, I don?t have to listen to you? said with a shrug.

The thing that really gets me with this whole thing is that the kid knows full well that by equating what he?s done to a video game, that he will generate controversy and media coverage. It makes me sick that the media is jumping all over this, because that is exactly the result that he wants.

The only good thing (if there is such a thing) that has come out of this whole ordeal is that the kid is behind bars. That is exactly where he needs to be.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/19/homeless.attacks/index.html

http://www.evilavatar.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25823

the stepmother's letter - must read
http://www.penny-arcade.com/
"A rare opportunity"

 

[Cole]

People have to stop blaming other things and take responsibilty for there actions.

Also: Shouldn't the blame be on the weed and alochol?

 

[CptStern]

read the articles, specifically the stepmother email ..I posted this story 4 minutes ago you couldnt have read the articles

 

[Bad^Hat]

So is the "feces smear into eviscerate" move a finisher in one of these games, or what? Maybe, in a drug-fueled frenzy, he truly thought he was just at home, on his couch, frantically mashing the X button for extra points. Bonus if you fry his face off, right?

Wanker.

 

[Tollbooth Willie]

Jesus H. Monkey F*cks. That's just screwed up.

At least there's ONE parent out there who doesn't think "OMG Billy NOOO this is poison for your fragile little mind lolz".

 

[smwScott]

That letter was a good read, thanks for posting it.

Some people just don't work right. He's one of them. It doesn't sound like he had bad parents, and it certainly can't be blamed on games/movies/music either. It can't even really be blamed on the substances he was intoxicated on. He's just broke.

If there was anyone to blame for this ordeal (other than the kid, which is the only place where blame truly lies), it would be the system that continued to allow this behavior. He was continually caught committing delinquent acts and they did nothing, taking his word for everything. Treating him like some fragile soul that needed protection. What people like this need is to be treated the same way they treat others. These kinds of people don't respond to positive forms of rehabilitation.

And now the media, as it always does, is going to play him up as the unwitting child that was brainwashed by these terrible videogames. Poor him. Ban videogames.

It's all bullshit. **** this kid, it's a damn shame he only got 15 years.

 

[MorganFreeman911]

I pity that family and the homeless man.

 

[function9]

It'll be strange when the kid gets out because he underwent a new "experimental" treatment to rid his mind of these thoughts.

But seriously, I say fry him.

 

[Tollbooth Willie]

Fry him?

Splatter him.

 

[Krynn72]

wow thats really ****ed up. He had bears with him, and then proceeded to beat they guy to death? Thats a ****ed up person, i think hes beyond saving and should have been jailed for life. Its bs that he only got 15 years, but i guess its because he wasnt 18 at the time.

 

[Cole]

read the articles, specifically the stepmother email ..I posted this story 4 minutes ago you couldnt have read the articles

Have you ever thought that I may have read them before hand?

 

[<RJMC>]

jack thompson:"my senses are sensing a strong case! to the thompson movil!"

now criminals hav a new ticket out of jail

 

[Tollbooth Willie]

*cue music*

Danananananananana JACK THOMPSON!

 

[Smoke]

****s sake. We need a worldwide death penalty. Yes, you heard me. Steal a car? Death. Steal a phone? Death.

I promise you crime will slow down.

 

[Stigmata]

I think what we need is reciprocal punishment.

Stole a car? We steal your wife.
Broke a window? We break your arm.
Rape? Rape.

 

[Smoke]

Bah, death to all.

 

[Krynn72]

*cue music*

Danananananananana JACK THOMPSON!

have you said that exact same thing before? I just had deja vu if you didnt.

 

[venturon]

And then I found they were strapping my rookers to the chair-arms and my nogas were like stuck to a foot-rest. It seemed a bit bezoomny to me but I let them get on with what they wanted to get on with. If I was to be a free young malchick again in a fortnight's time I would put up with much in the meantime, O my brothers. One veshch I did not like, though, was when they put like clips on the skin of my forehead, so that my top glazz-lids were pulled up and up and up and I could not shut my glazzies no matter how hard I tried. I tried to smeck and said: 'This must be a real horrowshow film if you're so keen on my viddying it.'

Do it.

But seriously, that is just ****ed up. I feel sorry for those parents and that poor homeless guy.

 

[Jintor]

...sound stupidity.

 

[tehsolace]

Yup its the classic "Right-left-right-right-down-up-left X Y X up X" mortal kombat fatality by scorpion. the "beat the homeless man while high on drugs and smear my feces on his face" fatality.

 

[xcellerate]

We need a worldwide death penalty. Yes, you heard me. Steal a car? Death. Steal a phone? Death.

I promise you crime will slow down.

That's about how it works with sex offenders (at least in alabama). You get treated the same whether you were having sex with your underage girlfriend (sex, not rape), touched a co-workers boob, or tied up a 9yr old and penetrated her analy...

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

I hope this kid gets his ass beaten raw in juvy. The only way to get through to kid like this is to completely eviscerate any self-esteem they have.

 

[Cormeh]

Words fail me. I don't even give a shit about the video games scapegoat on this one.

Anybody too ****ing stupid not able to see past all of this violent game nonsense is officially a waste of the Earths oxygen supply.

 

[Beerdude26]

If I had such a kid, I'd shoot him in the head and go to jail, knowing that I did the world a favour. I honestly would.

 

[Pulse]

I wet myself today. I blame The Sims for not notifying me of when I needed a piss.

See you in court EA.

 

[Link]

What is this obsesion with blaming other things? They beat this man to death. The law says thats illegal. It is up to them to know the law. Therefore it is on them. Dosen't matter what games they played, or what violent films they watched. If they honestly didn't know killing was wrong, they were far more ****ed up than video games or films could have made them.

 

[Pulse]

What is this obsesion with blaming other things? They beat this man to death. The law says thats illegal. It is up to them to know the law. Therefore it is on them. Dosen't matter what games they played, or what violent films they watched. If they honestly didn't know killing was wrong, they were far more ****ed up than video games or films could have made them.

Cowards always look for scapegoats. If they weren't blaming video games, they'd be accusing Under Siege 2 of spurring them on.

"Damn that Steve Seagal, he made me kill a man!"

 

[function9]

Well it's true. After watching a Seagal movie, I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.

 

[Tollbooth Willie]

have you said that exact same thing before? I just had deja vu if you didnt.

Why, yes I have.

Bitch.