To Hell with Steam!

[AntiCitizen]

Lately I've been reading a lot of posts about the Steam engine. Its usually some person crying about how he can't activate his/hers copy of HL2. Then someone else comes along saying: "Steam helps us combat piracy... Blah blah blah" I think that people dont realize the implications that this steam thing is going to have on the future of games.

Most of you people just read the reviews shouting about how Valve helps us combat piracy and improve our games. The thing they never tell you is that Steam is much more than just an online authentication system. There are many serious issues asosciated with this great evil:

1) The most obvious one is that if you dont have access to the internet you dont get to play FULL STOP. It might come as a surprise to you but many people from less developed countries dont have an internet connection. Forgive me if im wrong but i dont think that it says ANYWHERE on the retail box that you need an internet connection to play the game.

2) All the game updates and patches go through steam. Imagine that a newer version of the game comes out and Steam tells you that to update you need to put in some extra cash. You would have no choice but to pay. In fact, I wouldnt be surprised if Steam starts charging money for spray logos! Or for ammo!!! Threre's nothing stopping it.

3) Doesnt Steam seem a bit like leagalized spyware? First of all no one knows what the steam client sends back to the servers and how much access it has to your system. Also, did you realize that Steam automatically assumes the right to load on statup (which is totally unnecessary) and spam you with popup windows. I would expect this kind of behaviour from "Super Porn Popup Spambar" but not form a well respected game company. You dont need a lot of imagination to see what will happen next... And other games will follow.

I HAVE AN ILLEGAL PIRATED HALF-LIFE 2. I WON'T PAY A SINGLE CENT FOR ANY MORE VALVE GAMES AND I WILL STEAL THEM ALL! INSTEAD I WILL USE MY MONEY TO BUY OTHER GAMES BECAUSE THEY DESERVE MY MONEY MUCH MORE THAN VALVE.

I don't know about you, but I won't let the game industry f**k me over. And I have a solution. I invite you to follow me and teach Valve a lesson. If we don't other game companies will be quick to follow. And by the way its not just games. In the future we might have to "authenticate" the next DVD we watch and CD we play.

(lol, its funny how the story of HL2 is similar to the story with Steam. Valve is like the Combine, trying to repress us - the gamers)

 

[Ennui]

You're an idiot. Go away.

 

[Dem0nEgg]

OHNOES!!11 tha STEEM ENGINE - THEY R TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE WERLD!!1111111 Ph34r teh steem, fear the change!

and wait.... you're one of those who is against DEVELOPERS, yeah the people who make the games - having more control over their own products?

Want a tinfoil hat? They seem to be selling like hotcakes at the moment.

 

[MiccyNarc]

I HAVE AN ILLEGAL PIRATED HALF-LIFE 2. I WON'T PAY A SINGLE CENT FOR ANY MORE VALVE GAMES AND I WILL STEAL THEM ALL! INSTEAD I WILL USE MY MONEY TO BUY OTHER GAMES BECAUSE THEY DESERVE MY MONEY MUCH MORE THAN VALVE.

Enjoy a lawsuit which may easily be coming your way very soon.
Especially if you downloaded via Torrent.

I hope you get hacked to pieces with a chainsaw.

 

[Sid Burn]

Damn... dont insult Valve so much... or expect... *pulls out crowbar*

 

[v1p3r]

1) The most obvious one is that if you dont have access to the internet you dont get to play FULL STOP. It might come as a surprise to you but many people from less developed countries dont have an internet connection. Forgive me if im wrong but i dont think that it says ANYWHERE on the retail box that you need an internet connection to play the game.

Minimum system requrments:

Internet conection.

2) All the game updates and patches go through steam. Imagine that a newer version of the game comes out and Steam tells you that to update you need to put in some extra cash. You would have no choice but to pay. In fact, I wouldnt be surprised if Steam starts charging money for spray logos! Or for ammo!!! Threre's nothing stopping it.

They could. But they wont. Ever heard of a thing called a REPUTATION?

3) Doesnt Steam seem a bit like leagalized spyware? First of all no one knows what the steam client sends back to the servers and how much access it has to your system. Also, did you realize that Steam automatically assumes the right to load on statup (which is totally unnecessary) and spam you with popup windows. I would expect this kind of behaviour from "Super Porn Popup Spambar" but not form a well respected game company. You dont need a lot of imagination to see what will happen next... And other games will follow.

Just think, all the cheat writers and crackers that have been reverse engeneering Steam, and not one of them has found anything nasty...

 

[diluted]

Meh.. Steam does suck, but I still think valve deserves my money. Half-Life 1 was the best game I ever played, so I knew for sure I was going to buy HL2, Steam or not. I don't feel bad about ripping off EA Games or something, but Valve really does deserve our support.

 

[azz0r]

1) The most obvious one is that if you dont have access to the internet you dont get to play FULL STOP. It might come as a surprise to you but many people from less developed countries dont have an internet connection. Forgive me if im wrong but i dont think that it says ANYWHERE on the retail box that you need an internet connection to play the game.

If you dont have the internet because your country isnt developed enough, then you shouldnt be able to afford decent hardware that is capable of playing hl2.

2) All the game updates and patches go through steam. Imagine that a newer version of the game comes out and Steam tells you that to update you need to put in some extra cash. You would have no choice but to pay. In fact, I wouldnt be surprised if Steam starts charging money for spray logos! Or for ammo!!! Threre's nothing stopping it.

Dont pay? Dont click Accept to purchase? Idiot

3) Doesnt Steam seem a bit like leagalized spyware? First of all no one knows what the steam client sends back to the servers and how much access it has to your system. Also, did you realize that Steam automatically assumes the right to load on statup (which is totally unnecessary) and spam you with popup windows. I would expect this kind of behaviour from "Super Porn Popup Spambar" but not form a well respected game company. You dont need a lot of imagination to see what will happen next... And other games will follow.

You can turn off Steam starting up with Windows. Damn Microsoft uses spyware too eh! They log you in and show you what new updates are available! BASTARDS


Now go play with your shitty warez version leech.

 

[Darkside55]

Some bullshit

Shut up, bitch. Not like anyone'll ever see you on these forums again (as most people who tend to post this stuff leave for keeps immediately after), but on the off chance that you read these messages and try to defend your position or tell us how we're all ignorant for using Steam, save it. You're not "teaching Valve a lesson," smart guy, you're just being a dick who isn't accomplishing anything against Valve. You're one guy. Even if 10, 100, 1,000, 5,000 people pirate HL2, you're like bugs to Valve. So go have fun with your fake copy riddled with bugs (that you'll probably sign up under another name to ask for tech help with).

Way to rage against the machine there, junior.

 

[lister]

you said "Also, did you realize that Steam automatically assumes the right to load on statup (which is totally unnecessary)" well mate mine dont load up on startup cos i know what i doing with computers/software, unlike some. Im getting sick and tired of people complaining about stuff they dont even have a damn clue about. Go get a book on computers & internet for dummies from PCworld.

 

[DevgruSeal]

1) The most obvious one is that if you dont have access to the internet you dont get to play FULL STOP. It might come as a surprise to you but many people from less developed countries dont have an internet connection. Forgive me if im wrong but i dont think that it says ANYWHERE on the retail box that you need an internet connection to play the game.

What you don't realize, is that if people live in less developed countries, they aren't GOING to be playing Half-Life 2. They wouldn't have the money to buy a computer good enough to run computers. All they have are simple goat-run computers. How are they going to play HL2 (or even afford it) with goat-run computers? You eggnut.

They aren't going to charge for such silly stuff. If you purchase Half-Life 2, they are going to give you a free update. Why the hell would you think they would charge you for an update? Again, you goobernugget.

3) Doesnt Steam seem a bit like leagalized spyware? First of all no one knows what the steam client sends back to the servers and how much access it has to your system. Also, did you realize that Steam automatically assumes the right to load on statup (which is totally unnecessary) and spam you with popup windows. I would expect this kind of behaviour from "Super Porn Popup Spambar" but not form a well respected game company. You dont need a lot of imagination to see what will happen next... And other games will follow.

You should turn off STEAM instant messaging then. Its in the settings. You can also turn off the automatic start up when windows logs on. Its in the settings. And again I say, you goosebump.

I HAVE AN ILLEGAL PIRATED HALF-LIFE 2. I WON'T PAY A SINGLE CENT FOR ANY MORE VALVE GAMES AND I WILL STEAL THEM ALL! INSTEAD I WILL USE MY MONEY TO BUY OTHER GAMES BECAUSE THEY DESERVE MY MONEY MUCH MORE THAN VALVE.

Then I'm sure VALVe would be delighted to see you in jail.

I don't know about you, but I won't let the game industry f**k me over. And I have a solution. I invite you to follow me and teach Valve a lesson. If we don't other game companies will be quick to follow. And by the way its not just games. In the future we might have to "authenticate" the next DVD we watch and CD we play.

No body is going to MAKE us authenticate a DVD. The authentication is strictly for computer-related software. It is simply anti-piracy measures.

(lol, its funny how the story of HL2 is similar to the story with Steam. Valve is like the Combine, trying to repress us - the gamers)

Get a life. You don't have to buy the game. You don't have to be repressed...You are one sad peice of low-life form.

 

[PhaTox]

Anticitizen: you are wrong.

and: you should not boast on the net about illegal copys.
that is stupid.

maybe you are a nice guy and i would like to drink a cup of beer with you elsewhere, but right here you are (almost completely) wrong- and stupid in the same place. there are some razor-edge crackers in this forum and watch the above: you did not make friends with them. got a firewall that really works to protect your computer? hope so! good luck.

 

[^Ben]

I wonder why valve felt the need to put anti piracy measures in the first place.

OH YES! Because of idiots like you.

 

[StAtiC]

<<:-: Inserts usual contridiction to author's post and pwning him to the point of no reply :-:>>

 

[Lemonking]

ur a silly mother****ker

 

[Asknoone]

Your wrong in every respect, i am not going to go over all of your comments because enough people have already pointed most of the facts put, so it should get into your head (though with your intelligance i doubt it)

This is flamebait, its going to be an instant lock

 

[rocklegendfm99]

I am a freaking dumbass

......

 

[ComradeBadger]

Muh Muh Muh

Go play in traffic.

 

[qqmajikpp]

1) The most obvious one is that if you dont have access to the internet you dont get to play FULL STOP. It might come as a surprise to you but many people from less developed countries dont have an internet connection. Forgive me if im wrong but i dont think that it says ANYWHERE on the retail box that you need an internet connection to play the game.

i thought steam was pretty dumb too but i LOVE steam now.

i had some trouble installing hl2 on day one when i got it for christmas. it's kinda hard to swap a defective copy on christmas so you can imagine my dissapointment. i decided to register the copy anyway and i was STILL able to play it without having to even install it. all thanx to steam. know anyother way to play a defective game on day one?

 

[Neutrino]

I don't like steam either. I wouldn't pirate Valve games, but I don't know if I will buy any more of them because of steam.

 

[glitched_firewal]

sdf

anticitizen... you and dr. breen have a lot in common... You are both DOUCHEBAGS

 

[Wikt]

I invite you to follow me and teach Valve a lesson. If we don't other game companies will be quick to follow. And by the way its not just games. In the future we might have to "authenticate" the next DVD we watch and CD we play.

Hey, you! Guess what!

SCREW YOU.

I have completely no problem with Steam, nor did I have. It actually made getting HL2 and related far easier to me.

Now, go play your warez, while I enjoy battling in HL2DM and CS:S.