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Well the election is heating up and I wonder about your opnion on it. I personaly am an Obamba guy.(But can't vote, being only a teen.)

Obamba-Democrat
Hillary-Demo
Mcain-Repub

I know im horrible at spelling.
 
I like Obama. I supported him (and some of the other democratic candidates) from the beginning. I also liked Ron Paul a lot. Now that it's down to McCain, Clinton, and Obama I definately have to support Obama.

McCain is just an idiot. He clearly just says things just to get votes and his stance on the war is waay too extreme. Not to mention that he has alzheimers and bi-polar disorder and is known by his peers for his random violent outbursts. It would be dangerous to have him in the whitehouse.

Hillary is my second choice (I'm not one of the idiots who will support the other democratic candidate just because mine doesn't get the nomination), but she just lies too damn much. Not too mention the amount of scandels she's already been involoved in. She also over-exaggerates her experience. A lot of her "experience" comes from her being married to a man who was prez. Also, experience doesn't matter quite as much as she says. Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld had a lot of experience and look at what they did...

Obama may not have a huge amount of experience, but what experience he has is good, and he has about the same amount of experience as John F Kennedy and Abraham Lincoln. They were pretty good presidents weren't they? I think his healthcare plan is better than Hillary's. I also don't understand when people say that only talks and never explains what he's talking about. I've been to his rally when he came here to Youngstown and he definately talk about what he was gonna do and also HOW he was gonna do it.
 
Obama isn't the perfect candidate, but he is by far the least worst of the three.
 
I once confused Mccain with Mcclain, and supported him to the fullest of my heart, believing that he could kill helicopters with a car.
 
In the order I like them:

1.) Barack Obama
2.) John McCain
3.) Hillary Clinton

I really detest Hillary. I'm not saying I'd vote for McCain over her, but deep down inside I know I want to. That's because I can at least respect McCain.
 
Absinthe said:
In the order I like them:

1.) Barack Obama
2.) John McCain
3.) Hillary Clinton

I really detest Hillary. I'm not saying I'd vote for McCain over her, but deep down inside I know I want to. That's because I can at least respect McCain.
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Why do you respect McCain?
 
His military service, his love for his country, his willingness to break with his party, that he has been willing to fire members of his staff for engaging in typical right-wing mudslinging, and I won't lie that part of me admires his bluntness.

Yeah, I disagree with him on a lot of things. But his campaign has not been driven by his own ego. He is unashamedly for a continued US presence in Iraq, and not only does this not strike me as the height of unreasonableness, but he admits that a lot of people will not vote for him based on that. He presents an option in American politics and has emphasized it's up to the people if they want that.

Perhaps this is just my own personal impression, but I wager he'd get a lot more bipartisan traction than Hillary ever could. I like McCain as a person. He doesn't hold any interest in making a permanent Republican majority like previous generations of conservatives have, but instead what he thinks is important for the country. At the very least, I can respect that. It's not always been politically expedient for his career.
 
Yeah I respect McCain, just like anyone should. He's a much more respectable person than Bush is. It'd just be dangerous to have him in the White House. Just because he served in the military and is a pretty respectable person doesn't mean he can be president.

I should respect the crazy shellshocked homeless man who served bravely in the Vietnam War, but that respect should never earn him presidency.
 
I can predict the rest of this thread:
"I support Obama, hate Hillary, hate McCain but would vote him over Hillary."


Hillary and Obama have nearly identical positions.
 
I'm not an American citizen but I like Barack Obama, I agree with his policy and he seems to be well educated and most importantly, he have experience with ordinary people and also with people from foreign countries. As a president he have a great potential to change USA and become a legend.

MC Cain looks like another Bush to me, of course he have my respect for his bravery in the Vietnam War but that doesn't make him a good president.

I don't know much about Hillary Clinton but she seems to as very emotive and unpleasant person. I glad that all those lunatics and christards like Ron Paul and Mitt Romney failed.
 
Polaris said:
I glad that all those lunatics and christards like Ron Paul and Mitt Romney failed.
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Oh God! Oh God! Don't insult Saint Paul, the Church of Libertarianism will hunt you down and browbeat you and talk about their new MacBook Air.
 
I really don't know how dangerous a McCain presidency would really be.

And please, if anybody's going to make another link to that stupid "Bomb bomb Iran" video, stop yourself.
 
I dont know crap about the candidates and that stuff but what I like of obama is his african heritage for being son of a kenyan inmigrant and he lived some time in africa too isnt?
and posibly that means he have a diferent view of the tipical american and may do good things whit that
 
Irksome said:
I can predict the rest of this thread:
"I support Obama, hate Hillary, hate McCain but would vote him over Hillary."


Hillary and Obama have nearly identical positions.
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yeah, I hate when people say they support Obama and then say they'll vote for McCain is Hillary gets the nomination. absolutely stupid (and same thing with Hillary supporters that say they won't vote for Obama).
 
I've started to notice how vague Obama's speeches are. He's a very good speaker, but a lot of what he says is general, and one sentence hardly relates to another. It's almost like Newspeak.
 
Solaris said:
Would he actually bomb Iran?
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I highly doubt it. At the same time I don't think he'd open a diplomatic channel with Iran either. If anything McCain will do what Bush has done for the last 4 years, which is just let Iraq fester.
 
I respect McCain, and think he is a damn good American, and a pretty honorable person in general. But I fear his time as a POW and service in the military may have made him a little gung ho. Ive read that he is prone to anger, and he doesnt seem versed enough in foreign politics to help our relations much with other countries. I think i'd like him in person, but I dont believe he would be a good president.

Hillary is just a greedy **** who over-dramatizes everything and will say anything to get into office, and I dont think she wants to be president for anything other than personal reasons. Definately not the kind of person who I'd want in the office.

Obama seems competent enough to actually help the country out, while not taking things too far. Certainly not the best candidate ever, but I think hes the only one of the three who would actually solve some problems our nation has, without creating new ones.
 
Krynn72 said:
Hillary is just a greedy **** who over-dramatizes everything and will say anything to get into office, and I dont think she wants to be president for anything other than personal reasons. Definately not the kind of person who I'd want in the office.
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Would you mind elaborating on the following:

- How is she greedy?
- What is she over dramatizing and how is she doing it?
- What has she said?
- How do you know she's in it for personal reasons but McCain and Obama aren't?

I'm not a Hillary supporter but I tend to find the reasons people use to explain why they dislike her are either childish, based on stereotypes, or flat out bullshit.
 
I would vote for myself before any of them.

Thats my opinion, i don't like any of them.
 
Irksome said:
Would you mind elaborating on the following:

- How is she greedy?
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If you listen to her answers to questions, you can just tell. She will say anything to make herself sound like she is better. She will insult the other candidates and mock them in their faces to make her seem better, and then the next moment she is all buddy buddy so she doesnt seem so vicious. She just executes a series of uncalled-for low-blows rather than try to become president through her own merits. Which tells me at least, that she isnt interested in whats best for the country, but rather whats best for herself.

- What is she over dramatizing and how is she doing it?
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Im sure you've heard her "recollection" of her arrival in Bosnia no? And if you listen to any of her responses to questions during debates, she fluffs everything with dramatic words that make things sound much more significant than they really are. She is just trying to make it seem like she has had more experience, and possesses more credibility than she really does.

- What has she said?
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Almost everything she says has a sharpness of tongue that is really what makes her the bitch everyone calls her. Her tone is sarcastic, and offensive whenever she needs to respond to someone. In everything she says, she tries to slip an insult in her sentence, and she tries to be slick about it, but frankly if I have to put up with her attitude and mean demeanor for 4 years, I might just go insane.

- How do you know she's in it for personal reasons but McCain and Obama aren't?
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They probably are, nobody runs for president when they dont want it. But as far as I can tell, neither of them are so overt in their desire to obtain presidency. They're trying to prove why they'll do well in office, while Hillary is just bashing them both instead of presenting her own merits, which is just a seedy and underhanded tactic. Thats not to say that Obama and McCain havent done their own share of mudslinging, but hot damn, Hillary takes it to a whole new level.
 
Absinthe said:
His military service, his love for his country, his willingness to break with his party, that he has been willing to fire members of his staff for engaging in typical right-wing mudslinging, and I won't lie that part of me admires his bluntness.

Yeah, I disagree with him on a lot of things. But his campaign has not been driven by his own ego. He is unashamedly for a continued US presence in Iraq, and not only does this not strike me as the height of unreasonableness, but he admits that a lot of people will not vote for him based on that. He presents an option in American politics and has emphasized it's up to the people if they want that.

Perhaps this is just my own personal impression, but I wager he'd get a lot more bipartisan traction than Hillary ever could. I like McCain as a person. He doesn't hold any interest in making a permanent Republican majority like previous generations of conservatives have, but instead what he thinks is important for the country. At the very least, I can respect that. It's not always been politically expedient for his career.
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I doubt that McCain did more than any other honourable officer would've done, but I agree with you that he deserves some repsect for his decision to stay behind.

But would you really like the person who brought flip-flopping to a whole new level as president of the most powerful nation on earth?
 
The Monkey said:
I doubt that McCain did more than any other honourable officer would've done, but I agree with you that he deserves some repsect for his decision to stay behind.
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My respect extends to anybody who enlists, unless they disgrace themselves through later actions.

But would you really like the person who brought flip-flopping to a whole new level as president of the most powerful nation on earth?
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People here need to stop conflating liking McCain with wanting him president over Hillary. I never said that I would, only that her repugnant character is doing its damn best to try and make me vote otherwise.
 
Anyone seen the "1984 Hilary Video"? Look it up on Youtube(can't be stuffed linking it right now).
 
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