U.S. to take all 10 fingerprints at airports

[Operational]

US government will demand that visitors have all 10 fingers scanned when they enter the country. The information will be shared with intelligence agencies, including the FBI, with no restrictions on their international use.
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Countries subject to the new scheme include Britain, other European Union nations, Japan, Australia and New Zealand.
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Britons already have their credit card details and email accounts inspected by the American authorities following a deal between the EU and the Department of Homeland Security. Now passengers face having all their credit card transactions traced when using one to book a flight. And travellers giving an email address to an airline will be open to having all messages they send and receive from that address scrutinised.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1984496,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=1

So when you visit the US all your fingerprints will be taken, with no restriction on their use, the US gets to look at your credit card transactions and your email address you used to book the flight with. Welcome to the US!

With millions of visitor's each year just imagine how many false positives there will be. Also any Terrorist worth his salt would just use another credit card and email address for the flight.

 

[Gunner]

Woah what the ****? when is this shit gonna happen? I'm not going to give them anything, who gave them the right to read people's email?

 

[Raziaar]

Okay that is NOT acceptable.

 

[DeusExMachina]

How would they read your email?

 

[Walter]

Woah what the ****? when is this shit gonna happen? I'm not going to give them anything, who gave them the right to read people's email?

Heavy abuse of privacy gained it's strength while George Walker Bush been ruling the country. Doubtfully it will end at that. They sure like to use terrorism as an excuse i see.

 

[Cole]

I think George Walker Bush is thinking he is Walker Texas Ranger. Where's Chuck Norris when ya need him?


You see terrorists are winning this damn war, by causing things like this.

 

[clarky003]

Another step towards Orwell's nightmare.

 

[Majestic XII]

Land of the free indeed...

 

[15357]

Meh. I won't be able to go to the US till I'm 25.

They want less tourists? Can't say I blame them.

 

[The Monkey]

The US is the only country where I have had to leave fingerprints.

 

[Ome_Vince]

Bin laden must be dancing with joy around his camel looking at the last 5 years.

 

[<RJMC>]

eh that means we hav to give our email whit password too?

 

[Dalamari]

Once I get some cash, I'm leaving the US

 

[Nih]

Wow. I think it's safe to say that I'm never going to the US from now on, unless I have a very good reason.

 

[jverne]

guys, guys...but this is just foreplay. hope you bought enough lube for the real ass raping.


i wonder how long till you are rape-scaned at airoports?!

 

[Solaris]

I don't want my fingerprints taken.

This would really put me off visiting the US.

 

[Gray Fox]

WoW Gosh, you have to give all ten fingerprint, what an incredible violation of my privacy, it's not like my fingerprints are just a method of identification, no their going to reveal my dark secrets, their going to stop me from having an independent opinion, I'm never going to be able to vote again, and most importantly I won't ever be able to pull my head out of my ass and actually try to address real issues regarding privacy and power abuse by the government, instead of just over dramatizing the most insignificant things.

 

[kirovman]

I heard that when they have your e-mail address, they send you chain mails.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

WoW Gosh, you have to give all ten fingerprint, what an incredible violation of my privacy, it's not like my fingerprints are just a method of identification, no their going to reveal my dark secrets, their going to stop me from having an independent opinion, I'm never going to be able to vote again, and most importantly I won't ever be able to pull my head out of my ass and actually try to address real issues regarding privacy and power abuse by the government, instead of just over dramatizing the most insignificant things.

Read words.

"Now passengers face having all their credit card transactions traced when using one to book a flight. And travellers giving an email address to an airline will be open to having all messages they send and receive from that address scrutinised."

Remember that silly controversy a while back where the US kept a log of every single person you've telephoned?
Now they're doing it with every person you've ever e-mailed and everything you've ever bought.

Last I checked, gun rights advocates use primarily the (valid) reasoning that citizens need guns to protect themselves from an over-powered government.
But what good is the second ammendment when the people most likely to own guns are also the biggest apologists?

 

[Gunner]

I don't want my fingerprints taken.

This would really put me off visiting the US.

They already have my fingerprints, I came here on a F1 student visa. They took my fingerprints at the embassy in Paris and one more time when I landed in Philadelphia. But this is going too far, cmon... how about having a real intelligence agency capable of discerning who's actually a threat and who's not.

 

[Tagaziel]

I'm making a special e-mail just for booking flights to and from United States. It's that simple.

And all tickets will be paid for with cash on-site.

USA is getting real close to becoming a true
United Propertay of Fuzzy W. Bushkins!

 

[DeusExMachina]

**** planes. Just drive out in the open road.

 

[kirovman]

Or avoid immigration control altogether by arriving by submarine.

 

[Gray Fox]

Read words.

"Now passengers face having all their credit card transactions traced when using one to book a flight. And travellers giving an email address to an airline will be open to having all messages they send and receive from that address scrutinised."

Remember that silly controversy a while back where the US kept a log of every single person you've telephoned?
Now they're doing it with every person you've ever e-mailed and everything you've ever bought.

Last I checked, gun rights advocates use primarily the (valid) reasoning that citizens need guns to protect themselves from an over-powered government.
But what good is the second ammendment when the people most likely to own guns are also the biggest apologists?

Well wasn't that my whole point, why worry about finger prints when those other things are much more important?

 

[JNightshade]

Jesus f*cking Christ.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Well wasn't that my whole point, why worry about finger prints when those other things are much more important?

Apologies then; the way it was worded I thought you had skipped over that part.

The fingerprinting obviously isn't as bad, but it's still the sort of thing that would normally require consent or a warrant to obtain. Typically, also, the police only take fingerprints of suspected criminals. I'm sure large portions of the american population don't like being presumed guilty and then recorded in a database of potential criminals.

It's not really in the spirit of stopping terrorism either.
It's very clear that this whole fingerprinting process has basically nothing to do with fighting terrorism. The terrorists who did 9/11 wouldnt've gave a shit about fingerprints. Fingerprints are only useful after a crime has been commited. Then, how many people will fly to or from the U.S. in the X number of years after this is introduced? I don't think a billion is overestimating. Of that billion, let's say a good three dozen are actual terrorists that's like three times the number on 9/11. Surely this is a total waste of resources, unless the plan is to monitor normal citizens instead. Basically, it's a pre-emptive strike on the american people.

Also, I remember that episode of Mythbusters where they found you can take someone's fingerprint records and use them to hack pretty much any biometric fingerprint lock on the market.


Nah, that's too cynical.

I think Bush was just so overwhelmed with emotion at the purple fingers in Iraq that he decided he'd give the U.S. ten times more freedom than the average Iraqi.

 

[Geogaddi]

Democratic congress and Science! Please save us!

 

[Tyguy]

Anyone else hear about bush forcing 2 Generals to resign because they didnt agree that we should send more troops in to Iraq?

2008 cant come soon enough

 

[kirovman]

Well in the UK, new applications for passports require ten fingerprints, retinal scan, and all previous addresses etc.

Actually, not sure if that's come into force yet, but it's part of the National ID card system.

 

[Walter]

eh that means we hav to give our email whit password too?

That means give your email and password, plus all those Steam accounts and WoW accounts, and all those terrorist supporting datas .
You know, Benjamin Franklin said once:
"Those that give up freedom for protection deserve neither freedom nor protection." He probably predicted ignorancy in USA with it.