Undercover Pakistani Had Messages from Qaeda No3

[Sprafa]

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=oxanSecurity&storyID=6271908

A Pakistani al Qaeda member who helped the authorities until his cover was blown by U.S. terrorism alerts last month had access to e-mails of the network's operations chief, a British newspaper said Sunday.

The Sunday Telegraph report directly links the undercover operation involving al Qaeda computer expert Mohammed Naeem Noor Khan with top members of bin Laden's inner circle.

Khan was arrested in Lahore, Pakistan in July but then cooperated with the authorities to track down other al Qaeda operatives. The undercover operation triggered a global crackdown on al Qaeda suspects, including eight arrests in Britain.

Among a trove of coded al Qaeda communications turned over by Khan were messages from Abu Faraj al-Liby to Islamic militants in Britain, the Telegraph said.

It described Liby as al Qaeda's number three man, a former personal assistant to bin Laden who took over as al Qaeda's operations chief after the arrest of suspected Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Liby is "one of the handful of al Qaeda operatives who may know the whereabouts of bin Laden and his deputy Ayman al Zawahri," it said.

Pakistani officials have told Reuters that Khan, the computer expert, was cooperating with them, communicating with al Qaeda contacts abroad until the day after the United States announced security alerts at suspected financial targets in New York, New Jersey and Washington.

When they announced the alert, U.S. officials said their information came from someone arrested in secret by Pakistan. Khan's name appeared in print the next day, scuppering the sting operation.

The following day, Britain swooped in haste on eight suspects who have since been charged with plotting mass murder.

 

[Sprafa]

I'm glad so many people care.

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

I'm glad so many people care.

Should we? I mean, this is a gaming forum, not a political forum.

 

[Sprafa]

Should we? I mean, this is a gaming forum, not a political forum.

good point.

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After all, we've got games, why should we care about the freaking World ?

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

After all, we've got games, why should we care about the freaking World ?

Are we the government? No, can we do anything about what they do, not really. So why persue something if you can't change what they are doing.

 

[moppe]

Should we? I mean, this is a gaming forum, not a political forum.

Halflife2.net > Off Topic Forums > General Off-Topic Chat > Undercover Pakistani Had Messages from Qaeda No3

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

Halflife2.net

Yeah there you go.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Yeah there you go.

You're not making much of an arguement for yourself since I think everyone would agree that the specific forum you are in right now has nothing to do with HL2....

Oh and you dont have to care. But that does'nt mean you have the right to piss off other people because they do.

 

[Mr.Reak]

I agree with Disturbed, while this is offtopic, people who go here are gamers. Like me for example, I don't follow politics, I don't care what's going on in the world, I became self-centering (means only care about people I know/love).

Plus it's early in the morning, at least here in USA, wait a little bit, people will respond, because I know there are a lot of people here who like to debate on political topics.

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

Better idea, Sprafa, since I know you like debating, how about asking a mod for a debate forum?? I bet you'd have fun with that

 

[Sprafa]

I agree with Disturbed, while this is offtopic, people who go here are gamers. Like me for example, I don't follow politics, I don't care what's going on in the world, I became self-centering (means only care about people I know/love).

Plus it's early in the morning, at least here in USA, wait a little bit, people will respond, because I know there are a lot of people here who like to debate on political topics.

it's 1738 GMT time. But you're right. Thanks for keeping this thread alive.


Although people who come here are gamers, agreed, this has a quite neat intelectual community (i.e. - blahblahblah; CptStern ; clarky003) that may or may not care about this.

Better idea, Sprafa, since I know you like debating, how about asking a mod for a debate forum?? I bet you'd have fun with that

http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=36139

you're late.

 

[rkef]

Are we the government? No, can we do anything about what they do, not really. So why persue something if you can't change what they are doing.

No, you aren't your government. But your government is your representative at home and abroad.

You may not care what they get up to, when it comes to small things, but when they're out adventuring on your and your friend's/family's nickel, and your lives, maybe you'll perk up and give a hoot .

Then again, maybe (read: clearly) not.

 

[SFLUFAN]

I was absolutely irate at both the US government and US media when they blew this man's cover. It's not very often you get a mole into the workings of the Al-Qaida hierarchy and now this very valuable source of information has been burned.

Nice job Bush administration and US media!

 

[Foxtrot]

I was absolutely irate at both the US government and US media when they blew this man's cover. It's not very often you get a mole into the workings of the Al-Qaida hierarchy and now this very valuable source of information has been burned.

Nice job Bush administration and US media!

WTF are you talking about?

 

[Mr.Reak]

WTF are you talking about?

Read the article.

 

[Foxtrot]

Read the article.

It has nothing to do with Bush or the US media...

 

[el Chi]

Should we? I mean, this is a gaming forum, not a political forum.

Yeah but it's not as if the Off-Topic Forum is a stranger to heated political/ideological discussions...
Besides, if you don't think the topic's relevant, don't get involved.

 

[rkef]

It has nothing to do with Bush or the US media...

You're right. It has to do with an unknown U.S. official (or officials) and the New York Times.

Oops. You're (potentially) half right. It may not have been Bush himself, or it may have been someone in Pakistan, I really don't have the information, so I won't comment on that -- eh, there's a lesson for you maybe ?

 

[j__]

haha, when an american tries to argue with u, just ignore him and he will shut up eventually

constructive/intelligent comments from them r few and far between

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

haha, when an american tries to argue with u, just ignore him and he will shut up eventually

constructive/intelligent comments from them r few and far between

And you are from where in the world exactly?

Btw, I dont agree with you, people are the same all over the world iregardless of where they are born. Fact.

 

[Bad^Hat]

I don't see any pastry.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

And you are from where in the world exactly?

Btw, I dont agree with you, people are the same all over the world iregardless of where they are born. Fact.

No. Detol kills germs, dead. Fact

Actually though, there are characteristics that we all share, but we are also all different and different cultures breed different people...


...different.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

No. Detol kills germs, dead. Fact

Actually though, there are characteristics that we all share, but we are also all different and different cultures breed different people...


...different.

Yeah..... but talking with an American accent doesnt mean you're gona be less inteligent that the rest of us...


The stupid thing is he is saying that American are stupid because they are from America. Something I just plain don't agree with. Please don't say you do....

 

[Foxtrot]

Yeah..... but talking with an American accent doesnt mean you're gona be less inteligent that the rest of us...


The stupid thing is he is saying that American are stupid because they are from America. Something I just plain don't agree with. Please don't say you do....

I agree, it doesn't matter where you are from but what your skin color is.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

I agree, it doesn't matter where you are from but what your skin color is.

Excuse me.....

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

I never suggested anything of the sort. No I don't think that. However, the schooling system in some countries is sometimes not as efficient as another place, and so the people may be just as intelligent but lack the knowledge to back it up. We have to recognise our differences instead of washing over them in an attempt to get rid of negativity.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

I never suggested anything of the sort. No I don't think that. However, the schooling system in some countries is sometimes not as efficient as another place, and so the people may be just as intelligent but lack the knowledge to back it up. We have to recognise our differences instead of washing over them in an attempt to get rid of negativity.

I kind of agree but I just get fed up of the American steriotype when there are blatently so many inteligent Americans on these forums.



And seriously Foxtrot. What the **** was that suppost to mean?

 

[Foxtrot]

I kind of agree but I just get fed up of the American steriotype when there are blatently so many inteligent Americans on these forums.



And seriously Foxtrot. What the **** was that suppost to mean?

Just mocking the guy who thinks all Americans are dumb because they live in America.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Just mocking the guy who thinks all Americans are dumb because they live in America.

I was hopeing for a reply like that.....



I can't stand racism. Sorry.....

 

[Bad^Hat]

Everything affects what makes up a person. EVERYTHING. Including the country they were raised in.

 

[Foxtrot]

Everything affects what makes up a person. EVERYTHING. Including the country they were raised in.

It affects, but doesn't determine what they will be/who they are like that one guy implied.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Everything affects what makes up a person. EVERYTHING. Including the country they were raised in.

I think I better reitterate my point here...

I understand this. I agree. Its a fact.

But, I don't think that its right to make such assumptions about people you know nothing about as individuals.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

Racism...thats another thing that gets washed over. The fact of the matter is, I am different to a black guy. A lot of it is cultural, but there are deffinate differences between me and Joe Black. That isn't bad, far from it, but we should celebrate these differences and make a point of them instead of hiding away trying to pretend we are all clones of each other.

I think its safe to say, we all all talking about the comment of one little pleb, too much

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Racism...thats another thing that gets washed over. The fact of the matter is, I am different to a black guy. A lot of it is cultural, but there are deffinate differences between me and Joe Black. That isn't bad, far from it, but we should celebrate these differences and make a point of them instead of hiding away trying to pretend we are all clones of each other.

I think its safe to say, we all all talking about the comment of one little pleb, too much

Again I agree. I was objecting to the guy making the 'negative' assumtion..



Well... I have just managed to make myself look damn stupid in this thread hav'nt I....

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

Nah its ok, I wasn't really aiming anything at you...you just happened to be standing there Its just so annoying when I get mixed in a bag with racists or political correctness freaks. The PC people think I'm being racist because I make a point of remarking on differences, and the racists think I'm a PC freak because I happen to call racist people, tits and a variety of other things.

 

[Foxtrot]

Racism...thats another thing that gets washed over. The fact of the matter is, I am different to a black guy. A lot of it is cultural, but there are deffinate differences between me and Joe Black. That isn't bad, far from it, but we should celebrate these differences and make a point of them instead of hiding away trying to pretend we are all clones of each other.

I think its safe to say, we all all talking about the comment of one little pleb, too much

He isn't different because of his skin color though, but because of his family/where he grew up and around what kind of people. I have a black friend and he acts more white then I do.

 

[Bad^Hat]

Cheer up lass, have a fried onion and forget your woes.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Lets both stop shooting eh!


I need to revise for a really really fun maths test now.


Oh wait..... thats not fun. :x

 

[rkef]

So, who here is on active duty with a PSYOP unit? Good job on deflecting this huge story!

</tinfoil_hat>

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

He isn't different because of his skin color though, but because of his family/where he grew up and around what kind of people. I have a black friend and he acts more white then I do.

Yeah...This is something other people find very hard to comprehend about my attitude. His skin is a different colour, and because of that he has lived a different life. My body is different to other people, and I have lived different to everyone else. Its just your point but looking at it another way really. Human beings are all alike in many ways, but, our genetic makeup(on top of cultural and social things) does make a a difference.