US census worker hanged with word "FED" written on chest

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the shit has finally hit the fan. the glenn becks of this world has stirred the lunatic fringe into action

The FBI is investigating the hanging death of a U.S. Census worker near a Kentucky cemetery. A law enforcement official says the word "fed" was scrawled on his chest.

The body of Bill Sparkman, a 51-year-old Census field worker and occasional teacher, was found Sept. 12 in the Daniel Boone National Forest in rural southeast Kentucky.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jbzG_BlkG2Hfc818EPRRn1bBlP6gD9AT8QC80

Did Glenn Beck's 9-12 protest inspire the murder of a US Census worker? A disturbing story is developing concerning the murder, the hanging, of a US Census worker. The worker was found dead, hanging from a tree, the same day as Glenn Beck's 9-12 Tea Party march on Washington D.C. The marchers were angry about many things, the expansion of the Federal Government in particular. The fact that the murdered Census worker was found with the word "Fed" written across his chest raises the inevitable speculations, and investigations.

http://www.examiner.com/x-4383-Port...cks-912-protest-inspire-Census-workers-murder
 
Scary :\

It's ruled out that this was suicide, I pressume?
 
While I would love this to be connected to Beck, I think it's too early to tell. But if it IS shown to have been influenced by Beck and his kind, I hope its enough to shut these hate mongers up just enough for them to realize that their actions have consequences, that their words do carry weight, especially to the unhinged that listen to them.
 
ya he was just too cheap to pay for a tshirt that said FED so he wrote it on himself before hanging himself

While I would love this to be connected to Beck, I think it's too early to tell.


I wasnt implying it was directly tied to beck but that beck and people like him have stirred up the masses with their insane misinformed rhetoric

But if it IS shown to have been influenced by Beck and his kind, I hope its enough to shut these hate mongers up just enough for them to realize that their actions have consequences, that their words do carry weight, especially to the unhinged that listen to them.


I doubt it. in their minds they're fighting the good fight. they're completely delusional so rationality probably wont work. unforetunately the death of an innocent would have to go much higher up the chain of command for it to take any sort of real and long lasting effect on the crazies ..probably to obama himself
 
very very sad, i hope it blows back into Becks face.

but you have to admit the FED is one of the main cause for inflation and probably even corporate corruption. the FED has to go, listen to Ron Paul.
 
could we not turn this into a debate about the freakin size of the federal government? really, why not just invite repiv to post a 7 page diatribe on liberterianism, big brother fatcat government and the evils of socialism? huh? DO YOU?
 
I wasnt implying it was directly tied to beck but that beck and people like him have stirred up the masses with their insane misinformed rhetoric
Ah I see. Sorry, its way to early for me.
I doubt it. in their minds they're fighting the good fight. they're completely delusional so rationality probably wont work. unforetunately the death of an innocent would have to go much higher up the chain of command for it to take any sort of real and long lasting effect on the crazies ..probably to obama himself
On second thought, I have to agree with you. Any one remember George Tiller? For years O'Reilly had been targeting the man, calling him "Tiller the Baby Killer" among other things. Then some nut job went out and shot him in his own church. Even with that, O'Reilly hasn't backed down, so why would Beck, Limbaugh, or any other conservative extremist?
 
The reason why they don't shut up is because they have the right to criticize who they like. Neither have said "I want someone to kill this guy." so they haven't done anything illegal. The man who shot that doctor and the guy who killed the senses worker, if he was murdered, acted on their own and are solely responsible for their actions.

Personal responsibility people. You can't just blame the figure heads.
 
Personal responsibility people. You can't just blame the figure heads.

Um, yeah, but these pundits are going far beyond "criticizing". They can't stand democrats, especially Obama. They are pandering to the nuts of their party. When Rush says that Obama has done more damage to America than al-Qaeda, and wants him to fail... that is irresponsible. And when Beck says that Obama has a "deep seeded hatred for white people", again, its going way too far. It's flaming the hatred of extremists in their party. Of course, Beck and Rush and others aren't guilty of murder, but they are guilty of spreading hate and fear.

edit*

here is Rush quoting his friend "Obama is terrorist attack number 2; Obama is the follow-up to 9-11" Now, it is only Rush quoting someone, but he seems to support it.
 
could we not turn this into a debate about the freakin size of the federal government? really, why not just invite repiv to post a 7 page diatribe on liberterianism, big brother fatcat government and the evils of socialism? huh? DO YOU?

i never intended to expand it to a debate, it was just a side commentary.



I doubt it. in their minds they're fighting the good fight. they're completely delusional so rationality probably wont work. unforetunately the death of an innocent would have to go much higher up the chain of command for it to take any sort of real and long lasting effect on the crazies ..probably to obama himself

isn't this how civil wars start?
 
The reason why they don't shut up is because they have the right to criticize who they like. Neither have said "I want someone to kill this guy." so they haven't done anything illegal. The man who shot that doctor and the guy who killed the senses worker, if he was murdered, acted on their own and are solely responsible for their actions.

Personal responsibility people. You can't just blame the figure heads.

As figure heads in the media they have a responsibility to mitigate their destructive ideas as to not cause violence. They realize they are in a position to cause a great deal of panic and take advantage of the fact. I have yet to hear one of these conservative assholes denounce the inflammatory remarks made by their viewers. It's pathetic and I hold them at least mildly responsible for any violence that occurs as a direct result of their indiscretion.
 
It was Michelle Bachmann's anti-census "let them come and i'll show them a thing or two" crowd.

We'll find out after the investigation though what the true causes are... but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it was this anti-census crowd who threatened to do things.
 
I still don't understand how something as politically neutral as the census could have such a strong right-wing outrage right now. Was the 2000 census a bloody battle when the Democrats didn't have a man in the White House?

The census is supposed to count every person, no matter where they live or who they are. If they're living in rural areas or dangerous neighborhoods, they still need to be counted.

And yes I said politically neutral, which I define here as being different than politically benign.
 
I still don't understand how something as politically neutral as the census could have such a strong right-wing outrage right now. Was the 2000 census a bloody battle when the Democrats didn't have a man in the White House?

But the Census asks me personal information, information that goes to places I don't know about and it can be used by people I don't trust, so I don't want to take it and since they're forcing me to take it with the the penalty of $5,000 fine, this is fascism yadayada.

I can see how they might be upset that their forced to take a census, but seriously, its just a census. Fox News walked up to people and asked them questions from it on the street and nobody had any problem answering them. Why the big deal over this? It's purely stemmed from the distrust of the current government (who, unlike the Bush administration, has done nothing to earn this level of distrust.) and its egged on by hardcore conservatives like Bachmann, Beck, Savage and who knows who else.
 
Y'all needs ta stop hatin on us southfolk or we goin'a bring the almighty wrath down on yous fellas too! ya hear?

dejavu

one thing i noticed in my stay of a gun forum, i noticed that the threads were like.

"Obama exposed for the socialist he is:

he'll raise the chinese flag over the withehouse on september 20th"

and everyone else goes

"im a sharpenin my bullits"

if you even try to debate them you'll end up in a shitty mess of everyone threatening to kill you.
at most 1 or 2 people seemed to be able to properly argument.
 
I still don't understand how something as politically neutral as the census could have such a strong right-wing outrage right now. Was the 2000 census a bloody battle when the Democrats didn't have a man in the White House?

The census is supposed to count every person, no matter where they live or who they are. If they're living in rural areas or dangerous neighborhoods, they still need to be counted.

And yes I said politically neutral, which I define here as being different than politically benign.

their objection to the census is that it asks more questions that what is in the constitution: "how many people live in your household" ...they dont like the federal government asking other questions .....no really this is why they are up in arms. because the governemnt dares ask questions about income, race etc ..they're big brother fearing lunatics who are easily excitedable so long as the issue fits ones of their talking points. otherwise they have no opinion whatsoever. the census worker was hanged because he worked for the federal government. he's what the sept 12th protests were about. this is nothing more than a case of scare mongering lunatics misinforming the insane and idiotic masses with half truths and outright lies and this man paid for their idiocy with his life

americans should be ashamed that this happens in your ****ing country by your fellow countrymen. where the hell are the sane rational americans? why the hell arent you shutting these idiots up? why the hell are the "liberals" in america such pussies? we'd have none of this idiotic obama is socialist talk in canada; they'd be mercilessly ridiculed and told to stfu. why the hell do americans tolerate conservative stupidity?
 
We can't make them shut up because freedom of speech works both ways. Someone needs to farm our food anyway.
 
We can't make them shut up because freedom of speech works both ways. Someone needs to farm our food anyway.

I meant shut them up by ridiculing them into silence. their idiotic claims dont stand up to any sort of scrutiny. surely that's a good start
 
their objection to the census is that it asks more questions that what is in the constitution: "how many people live in your household" ...they dont like the federal government asking other questions .....no really this is why they are up in arms. because the governemnt dares ask questions about income, race etc ..they're big brother fearing lunatics who are easily excitedable so long as the issue fits ones of their talking points. otherwise they have no opinion whatsoever. the census worker was hanged because he worked for the federal government. he's what the sept 12th protests were about. this is nothing more than a case of scare mongering lunatics misinforming the insane and idiotic masses with half truths and outright lies and this man paid for their idiocy with his life

americans should be ashamed that this happens in your ****ing country by your fellow countrymen. where the hell are the sane rational americans? why the hell arent you shutting these idiots up? why the hell are the "liberals" in america such pussies? we'd have none of this idiotic obama is socialist talk in canada; they'd be mercilessly ridiculed and told to stfu. why the hell do americans tolerate conservative stupidity?

I don't want the Fed to know too much about me. History is full of examples where a people became complacent and the government took advantage of them. That is what they fear, and they have good reason to fear it.

I sometimes feel like I am one of the few rational Americans left. And the far right is no less idiotic than the far left. Bot have their heads so far up their own asses they think that's all their is. Obama is more Socialist that we American tend to go for... granted he is no where near as socialist as Canada or Britain but lots of people are afraid that it will just get worse.

HAHA! I would as why we tolerate the liberal stupidity. The answer is the same for both questions. We have freedom of speech and as long as one is shouting the other will try to match volume. The harder one pushes the more the other pushes back. All this is doing is polarizing political opinion into two equally destructive philosophies. Both are full of shit.
 
As figure heads in the media they have a responsibility to mitigate their destructive ideas as to not cause violence. They realize they are in a position to cause a great deal of panic and take advantage of the fact. I have yet to hear one of these conservative assholes denounce the inflammatory remarks made by their viewers. It's pathetic and I hold them at least mildly responsible for any violence that occurs as a direct result of their indiscretion.

This I agree with it. Fox news is simply a tool for the prorogation of right wing thinking and since they lost the election they've unleashed the attack hounds on Obama to the point where in they long ago crossed the line of acceptable.

I sometimes feel like I am one of the few rational Americans left. And the far right is no less idiotic than the far left. Bot have their heads so far up their own asses they think that's all their is. Obama is more Socialist that we American tend to go for... granted he is no where near as socialist as Canada or Britain but lots of people are afraid that it will just get worse.

The UK isn't remotely socialist. You need to adjust you thinking there. We are an extremely capitalist society. Sure we have the national health system, but trust me that is an absolute blessing (and no we don't have death camps).
 
This I agree with it. Fox news is simply a tool for the prorogation of right wing thinking and since they lost the election they've unleashed the attack hounds on Obama to the point where in they long ago crossed the line of acceptable.

It certainly seems that way.
Edit:who am I kidding, they are flat-out doing exactly that.

Also, jump to about 5:20 on this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4rF-mFovEU

Here's a question I ask for people like Stern and lord_raken

When does exercising "freedom of speech" become "hate speech"?
 
When does exercising "freedom of speech" become "hate speech"?

I'm kind of surprised that there doesn't exist some kind of broadcast watchdog in the US that can take companies and shows to task over misrepresentation of the facts. Here in the UK none of the UK channels (not even the ones Murdoch owns) could get away with the shit Fox News does without suffering serious financial and political blowback.

Also Glen Beck did not rape and murder that girl in 1990, I know you've heard the rumours, but its not true:-

http://www.gb1990.com/

Though why won't Glen just come out and clear it all up?
 
I don't want the Fed to know too much about me. History is full of examples where a people became complacent and the government took advantage of them. That is what they fear, and they have good reason to fear it.
There is no moment in history when a government took census data and used it to oppress its citizens.

Census data is immensely useful in about a billion obvious ways. You don't think the government has safeguards and policies about searching for specific people in the census database? You have nothing to fear ffs.
 
Holy ****.


What the ****.






What kind of madmen are at work here?

My mind is unable to come up with anything. Jesus Christf*ck.
 
what kind of madmen? they are unhinged, extremist nut jobs. theres always gonna be people like them. But its the way that many right-wing pundit heads are pandering to these types that pisses me off.
 
Why should he?

Because there's soo much talk of about it perhaps? I mean we've had all this chatter about Obama not being an American, yet despite the fact that his birth certificate has been shown innumerable times, these foul rumours persist. ;)
 
I meant shut them up by ridiculing them into silence. their idiotic claims dont stand up to any sort of scrutiny. surely that's a good start

I never thought of you as a naive person. But you apparently are. The Republican opposition to the Democrats has never been based on facts, and always on rumours and straight out propaganda. Think Willie Horton, think Paula Jones, etcetera und so weiter.
 
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