US embassy in Bagdhad: buit in part by forced labour/kidnapped workers

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Once again, the US govermentn has shown itself as a fasict organisation with no morals or respect to human rights. But then we knew that from Guantonomu bay. (I can't be btoehred to find the correct spelling xD )
 
Damn straight. If you're going to mistreat the people in an occupied country, don't screw around. Give 'em an inch and they'll take a mile. Next thing you know, they'll want to start voting on things and ask for civil liberties and safe working conditions.

Seriously though, what were they thinking hiring an american medical technician (note: he's probably going to be an honest guy) to oversee something like this? That doesn't say much for the state of security there if nobody else would touch the construction of the embassy inside the green zone.
 
is that suposed to be that super construction whit a pool and all that stuff that will cost gazillions dollas?
 
... at least you saved some tax dollars there.
 
At least it got brought out and dealt with. I really have no idea how much other stuff like this goes on that no-one even hears about, but it's unlikely that every dirty trick played by the government gets exposed.
 
An addition slap in the face to the Iraq people is that Iraqi people can not work on this project at all.
 
Slave Labor: Saving taxes since 5000(est.) BC.
 
No Limit said:
An addition slap in the face to the Iraq people is that Iraqi people can not work on this project at all.
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What a great idea, they should hire Iraqis because there is zero chance in hell that one of them could potentially be a suicide bomber.
 
Gunner said:
What a great idea, they should hire Iraqis because there is zero chance in hell that one of them could potentially be a suicide bomber.
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QFT, essentially.
 
Gunner said:
What a great idea, they should hire Iraqis because there is zero chance in hell that one of them could potentially be a suicide bomber.
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Quite ironic really, you invade a country and are then unable to employ any of the locals for fear that they might hate you enough to blow themselves up.

Dead giveaway, imho.
 
well it's not like they would put a help wanted ad in the baghdad newspaper ..all workers work under contract for specific contractors ...and it's not like there isnt any foreign fighters in iraq so...
 
Gunner said:
What a great idea, they should hire Iraqis because there is zero chance in hell that one of them could potentially be a suicide bomber.
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Building hearts and minds right?

Can't provide you Iraqis with any jobs after we invaded your country because we think you are all terrorists. We'll let slaves do the labor instead.

And who says we are losing this occupation over there? :rolleyes:
 
No Limit, how can we take someone serious with an avatar like that :D
 
No Limit said:
Building hearts and minds right?

Can't provide you Iraqis with any jobs after we invaded your country because we think you are all terrorists. We'll let slaves do the labor instead.

And who says we are losing this occupation over there? :rolleyes:
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Stop with the sarcasm and come join the rest of us in reality land.

You think Iraqis want to work for the Americans? to build their embassy no less?... Iraqis get killed if they're seen talking to American troops. Why do you think the translators wear hoods and masks?
 
why would they give iraqis jobs? most of the no bid contracts are held by US companies ..why would they hire iraqis when they could be lining their own pockets? unless it's dangerous jobs no one wants to touch
 
Gunner said:
Stop with the sarcasm and come join the rest of us in reality land.

You think Iraqis want to work for the Americans? to build their embassy no less?... Iraqis get killed if they're seen talking to American troops. Why do you think the translators wear hoods and masks?
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Do you have any idea how many Iraqis work in the green zone for americans? I don't have any statistics but its huge.

And since this embasy is actually in the green zone I don't see how security is that big of a concern, its pretty hard to sneak bombs past all those check points. This is just another slap in the face to the Iraqi people. It's pretty ****ed up, and some of you wonder why they hate us so much.
 
CptStern said:
yes it is, and its $592 million to be exact
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well atleast the american ambassador will be confortable in the pool whit his martini while looking the explotions in the distance
"ambassador:hmmm that building obstruct my view...charlie squad take care of that building for me *building gets destroyed by f15* much better..oh mints!"
 
No Limit said:
Do you have any idea how many Iraqis work in the green zone for americans? I don't have any statistics but its huge.

And since this embasy is actually in the green zone I don't see how security is that big of a concern, its pretty hard to sneak bombs past all those check points. This is just another slap in the face to the Iraqi people. It's pretty ****ed up, and some of you wonder why they hate us so much.
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Oh you say it's a huge number then it must be true obviously.

And yeah it's really hard to get past those checkpoints. How did those Kuwaitis smuggle the Fillipinos past the American checkpoints? They must have used the jedi mind trick I assume.

What I really don't understand is that you'd wish that the Iraqis got these jobs instead. They're not jobs, it's slave labor. The US contracted a Kuwaiti company for a job and the Kuwaitis used slave labor. If anything, you should be blaming the Kuwaitis. But then again, it still doesn't make sense. Why would you want the Iraqis to be abused like this?
 
Gunner said:
Oh you say it's a huge number then it must be true obviously.

And yeah it's really hard to get past those checkpoints. How did those Kuwaitis smuggle the Fillipinos past the American checkpoints? They must have used the jedi mind trick I assume.

What I really don't understand is that you'd wish that the Iraqis got these jobs instead. They're not jobs, it's slave labor. The US contracted a Kuwaiti company for a job and the Kuwaitis used slave labor. If anything, you should be blaming the Kuwaitis. But then again, it still doesn't make sense. Why would you want the Iraqis to be abused like this?
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You are doubting green zone security now? Are you kidding? This is a small area in the middle of hell that has not had any significant attacks inside its walls. We are not talking about guarding an entire border, just a few small enterances.

Second, you don't really understand the green zone do you? I dont blame you for that, but before you imply I'm a liar do a little research on your part. Here, I'll start you off:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-04-19-taxi-driver_N.htm

And I am not talking about abusing Iraqis, what the hell are you talking about? You think all the engineers, architects, plumbers, electricians, etc are slave laborers? There is plenty of work to be done on that embassy that requires perticular skills which you can't get using slave labor. So instead of giving these skilled jobs to Iraqis we keep them out of the entire system, its as if we want them to hate us. Then again this entire invasion was just a big middle finger to the middle east, I don't see how this is any different.
 
No Limit said:
You are doubting green zone security now? Are you kidding? This is a small area in the middle of hell that has not had any significant attacks inside its walls. We are not talking about guarding an entire border, just a few small enterances.
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Not meaning to detract from your main point, but the Green Zone has seemingly become less secure than intended in recent times:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6553063.stm
 
kirovman said:
Not meaning to detract from your main point, but the Green Zone has seemingly become less secure than intended in recent times:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6553063.stm
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And from what I read that's mostly due to the amount of "insurgents" in the Iraqi police and military. But even with that the area has remaind very secure compared to the rest of Baghdad. Any way you slice it we are fighting a losing battle. They don't want us there and as we have shown with this example and in the past we don't give a flying **** about them. I wonder how much longer this will go on.
 
CptStern said:
for awhile yet
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What drives me nuts is they have to know they will be there a long time, otherwise they would not be investing this kind of money in to that country. Who in their right mind would build the world's largest embassy in a country they know they wouldn't be able to control for much longer. I know Bush in many ways is incompetent and every business project he has been in he has ****ed up but I have a hard time believing they are that stupid.
 
No Limit said:
What drives me nuts is they have to know they will be there a long time, otherwise they would not be investing this kind of money in to that country.
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especially with a relatively small population of only 27,499,638? ....sorry I meant 27,499,612 ...no that's not right, it's 27,499,603 .....sorry, 27,499,589 .....I mean 27,499,562 ..ah screw it
 
No Limit said:
You are doubting green zone security now? Are you kidding? This is a small area in the middle of hell that has not had any significant attacks inside its walls. We are not talking about guarding an entire border, just a few small enterances.

Second, you don't really understand the green zone do you? I dont blame you for that, but before you imply I'm a liar do a little research on your part. Here, I'll start you off:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2007-04-19-taxi-driver_N.htm

And I am not talking about abusing Iraqis, what the hell are you talking about? You think all the engineers, architects, plumbers, electricians, etc are slave laborers? There is plenty of work to be done on that embassy that requires perticular skills which you can't get using slave labor. So instead of giving these skilled jobs to Iraqis we keep them out of the entire system, its as if we want them to hate us. Then again this entire invasion was just a big middle finger to the middle east, I don't see how this is any different.
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Yes I don't know what the Green zone means, thank you for enlightening me. In fact, you pretty much know it all. So I'll just leave you here and let you have an argument with yourself over how right you are.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/12/iraq.main/index.html
 
Gunner said:
Yes I don't know what the Green zone means, thank you for enlightening me. In fact, you pretty much know it all. So I'll just leave you here and let you have an argument with yourself over how right you are.
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How about you address what I said instead?
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/12/iraq.main/index.html
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What does this prove? There are already plenty of Iraqis living in the green zone. Plenty of other Iraqis enter and exit the green zone on a regular basis. So why not allow these Iraqis to work on a 600 million dollar project happening in their poor country, a country we totally ****ed up for them? Do you at least understand how such a move would piss the Iraqis off if you combine this with all the other middle fingers we pointed at them since we invaded the country?
 
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