Virginia shooter: No video games found

[CptStern]

here's the search warrent for Cho's apartment:

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/04/17/warrant.pdf

notice no video games were found?

"Common sense tells you that if these kids are playing video games, where they're on a mass killing spree in a video game, it's glamorized on the big screen, it's become part of the fiber of our society. You take that and mix it with a psychopath, a sociopath or someone suffering from mental illness and add in a dose of rage, the suggestibility is too high."

jack thompson also went on national tv shortly after the incident and of course blamed video games. Here's the video



so what do you have to say for yourselves now Dr Fil, Wacko Jacko? you just made fools of yourselves but the indended effective has already been achieved ..no amount of evidence will convince the stupid gullible idiots who devoured your every word ..how do you feel about yourself now? does the fact that you use fear mongering as a tool to bolster your own popularity give you a clear conscience? I hope you can sleep at night knowing you're doing everything possible to misrepresent and out right lie about an industry neither of you idiots understand ..they should be stripped tarred and feathered and paraded through the streets like the loud mouthed charlatans that they are

 

[Tyguy]

They will just say he's the "exception"

 

[Cormeh]

Exception won't do. I think that the victims families and friends should be after an apology for the crudeness and assuming nature of those accusations.

 

[Solaris]

"Countersrike" is a of the First Person Shooter game genre, where the player becames the participant in simulated murder.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/190407Violent.htm lol

 

[CptStern]

yes however both dr phil and thompson stated that games led him to act out ...kinda hard to act out because video games if you dont have them in your posession

 

[Ennui]

There is mention of "computer discs" or something like that, that could be video games that they just didn't name...?

 

[Cormeh]

I thought that said "compact discs" ?

EDIT: Could well be computer games, but it does say compact disks.

 

[Ennui]

Possibly, but they could still be referring to computer software, it's hard to tell.

 

[Rapstah]

It's probably Microsoft Office 2007.

 

[CptStern]

but they are saying he was influenced by the movie Old Boy

Officers believe he repeatedly watched Oldboy as part of his preparation for the killing spree.

The video, which Cho posted to an American TV network while carrying out his murderous rampage, appears to include photographs of Cho re-enacting scenes from the film.

still they'll go after video games regardless if there was any inflence or not:

The fact that he seems to have been influenced by the film will re-ignite the debate over whether violence in movies and video games can lead to people becoming more violent themselves.

..however I predict they wont be so quick to try to legislate against the film industry as they have with video games ..the film industry is too well protected


http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1261563,00.html

 

[<RJMC>]

but they are saying he was influenced by the movie Old Boy

still they'll go after video games regardless if there was any inflence or not:



..however I predict they wont be so quick to try to legislate against the film industry as they have with video games ..the film industry is too well protected


http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1261563,00.html

next they will blame tomb raider for saying he used 2 guns

 

[Dan]

He's also asian. Shouldn't we be saying instead that being asian causes people to go on killing sprees?

 

[Steven]

No video games found? He must be innocent then.

He's also asian. Shouldn't we be saying instead that being asian causes people to go on killing sprees?

Being South Korean probably does.

 

[Cormeh]

They'll find porn.

"Ban porn!"

... "ah crap..."

 

[clarky003]

Wasn't he also jacked up on prosac?

Found this article also:

http://www.newsmax.com/scripts/prin...x.com/archives/ic/2007/4/18/230755.shtml?s=ic

disclaimer: I do not condone or share these viewpoints that games cause bad and aggressive behaviour in everyone, infact they can be a channel for releasing pent up anger peacefully in many cases.

 

[CptStern]

I hate newsmax:

Cho Seung Hui honed his skill as a deadly marksman by playing violent video games

so having never fired a handgun but having done so for years in video games automatically makes me an expert? ****ing idiots...

they cant even get their facts straight:

...A second study by the authors revealed that even a brief exposure to violent video games can temporarily increase aggressive behavior in all types of participants.

...According to Washington Post Staff Writer David Cho, several Korean youths who knew Cho Seung Hui from his high school days said he was a fan of violent video games

that's the longest temporaryily increased aggressive behaviour ever


shoddy reporting they should be fired for being stupid


oh now I know why I dislike them:

Christopher Ruddy, who serves as editor-in-chief, describes NewsMax.com as "the leading independent online news site with a conservative perspective.

lol here's an entry in wikipedia under NewsMax controversial articles:

* On April 19th, 2007, NewsMax published an article claiming that Seung Cho was a fan of violent video games.

 

[gick]

Too late, the damage has been done. All the retards who actually buy this bullshit will have heard Thompson and co and made up their minds already, and I cant see anyone going on tv and making an announcement that this had nothing to do with games.

 

[Beerdude26]

Too late, the damage has been done. All the retards who actually buy this bullshit will have heard Thompson and co and made up their minds already, and I cant see anyone going on tv and making an announcement that this had nothing to do with games.

One day, American gamers everywhere will massacre every retarded conservative soccer mom, politician and person with anything they can get their hands on. survivors all over the country will scream "Genocide!" and "A second holocaust". And medals will be awarded by the UN for "acts of bravery and righteousness".

 

[tehsolace]

Yea the sad thing about this is NONE of these facts will ever surface. Dr. Phil's episode will remain what people will retain, even if his claims were completely premature and unsupported.

 

[mortiz]

I'll tell you something, playing FPS's does not make you into an excellent marksman, as I found out to my dismay the first time I went paintballing.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/190407mindcontrolled.htm

oh dear.

 

[Geogaddi]

I've played Counterstrike for years and my first experience using a pistol I couldn't hit shit.

Then again, when your victims are cowering on the ground a few feet away it's not that hard to go for the head/heart.

 

[MultiVaC]

I remember the first time I fired a real shotgun after hundreds of thousands of shells fired in video games.


I almost fell over.

 

[Stigmata]

I still haven't fired a gun.

I kind of want to, just to say I have, and to see what it's actually like.

 

[Tollbooth Willie]

Firing a 12 gauge shotgun and seering the fuzz off of rabbits feels good.

 

[Smoke]

Pathetic.

 

[Qonfused]

I've played Counterstrike for years and my first experience using a pistol I couldn't hit shit.

Then again, when your victims are cowering on the ground a few feet away it's not that hard to go for the head/heart.

Same.

My dad has a Luger, and I couldn't hit ANYTHING with that bitch.

 

[<RJMC>]

I am not a expert but I read somewhere that to fire a gun you hav to adjust the sight on the front whit the sight on the back of the gun or something like that

so I dont think playing a videogame will help a lot,but anyway shooting a gun is not like something that require a doctorate

 

[Jintor]

I'm not going to fire a ****ing gun anyway. Sides, it's about control schemes. PC games are point, and click. Guns are... well, guns are guns.

 

[repiV]

Firing a gun accurately is difficult. Hitting a moving target is nearly impossible for anyone but an expert.

 

[Bad^Hat]

So, does anyone else have trouble with Jack Thompson being called an "expert" in one sentence, and citing freakin DOOM a training tool in the next?

 

[Dekstar]

so having never fired a handgun but having done so for years in video games automatically makes me an expert? ****ing idiots...

While I agree with you completely on this matter, Stern, I still think that it's possible that playing a game like CS can help somewhat to being able to fire a weapon. For instance I have never fired off a weapon in my life, but if I were given a handgun, because of playing games like CSS, I'd perobably be able to immediately with no training fire that weapon with a larger degree of accuracy than most others that haven't fired a weapon before, empty the clip, replace a new clip, cock the weapon, and fire again. Were it instead a game like rainbow 6, I'd probably have also learned how to aim down the iron sights properly too.

So while a game can never train you to be a killer, it can go some way to teaching you the basics about weaponry

 

[repiV]

While I agree with you completely on this matter, Stern, I still think that it's possible that playing a game like CS can help somewhat to being able to fire a weapon. For instance I have never fired off a weapon in my life, but if I were given a handgun, because of playing games like CSS, I'd perobably be able to immediately with no training fire that weapon with a larger degree of accuracy than most others that haven't fired a weapon before, empty the clip, replace a new clip, cock the weapon, and fire again.

So while a game can never train you to be a killer, it can go some way to teaching you the basics about weaponry

Reading any freely available material about the basics of how to operate a weapon would accomplish exactly the same thing.

 

[Jintor]

Let's ban that too! > <

I personally don't believe it would help any further than 'you have to point the gun at the enemy', unless you obsessively stare at the animation of the dude reloading the gun again... and again... and again...

 

[Rapstah]

Hell! You learn more about shooting a gun from f*cking watching Beverly Hills Cop 2 than playing Counter-Strike for a year. In the movie, you can see in detail how you reload a small handgun, while Counter-Strike mostly has hard-to-get army weapons.

I've got an idea. Let's sue Dr. Phil.

 

[gick]

While we're on the subject, the first time I fired an assault rifle it practically dislocated my shoulder, and I didnt hit shit.

 

[CyberPitz]

Does CS even realistically depict how to work/reload a fire arm?

 

[repiV]

Does CS even realistically depict how to work/reload a fire arm?

Not in the slightest. If you tried to use a weapon in the same vein as CS, you wouldn't hit shit and you'd injure yourself trying.

 

[Xune]

Does CS even realistically depict how to work/reload a fire arm?

Of course it does. You are also able to run faster and jump higher when holding a knife in real life too.

 

[the_rebel_medic]

Firing a gun is nothing like in real life. Instead of point and click you have to line up the sights, make sure you're looking down the barrel straight, check the chamber, check the barrel, check the sights, make sure none of those things are damaged/blocked, when standing you have to hold the gun up, which is no-where as easy a game shows it to be. Lactic acid eats you up quickly if you don't lower it. The kick hurts your shoulder if you don't hold it right (TAKE THAT HP!) and the buck throws aim off quickly, making sustained fire impossible. The gun sways in your hands, you need to constantly re-aim the gun and then, you need to inch back on the trigger, stop, re-aim and inch back on it again, squeezing it slowly so that you don't throw your own aim off. In a situation where danger is presented to yourself, it gets even harder, you begin to panic, that increases your breathing, which sways the gun more, which throws off your aim, which makes it less likely to hit your target, which makes it more likely for your target to get close, which makes your aim even more sporadic, which makes you miss more, which lets your target get even closer until you get attacked.

Firing a gun isn't easy.

 

[Jintor]

Of course it does. You are also able to run faster and jump higher when holding a knife in real life too.

Well, run faster than if you're holding a gun.