Vista: Europeans will get a shock

[DEATH eVADER]

It might be good shock, or a bad one, depending on your views of the software.

Also available will be versions made specifically for Europe that, in accordance with an EU mandate, remove the Windows media player.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4754462.stm

Was put up this morning, you can read about all the six versions available. To be personally honest, they are marketing this too early as they need to know if they can deliver on all of their features.

[Edit] As a matter of fact, this might cause a big divide between Europe and the rest of the world, considering there are a lot of media out there that uses, or needs Windows Media Player to run. Unless they have come up with some sort of universal encoding, they might just loose a big portion of their market

 

[Gray Fox]

You can just download it from the net.
Besides a far more serious threat is that fact that microsoft is going to allow the Us government to easly spy on you via built in software in vista that the cia and nsa can use to acces your PC, and as far as I know that won't be removed from the EU version.

 

[rosseh]

I never use Windows Media player, could you tell me what I'm missing out on?

Don't they plan to release Vista in December?
Ten Months isn't all that far away really, especially if we're talking about advertising features in something as big as a new Windows O/S. Things need debugging, things need Beta testing. Otherwise all the "M$ SUXX LOLZ" bandwagon members would have a field day come the Vista launch.

True they may have gone a bit OTT on versions though. But there are worse things that they could do.

[edit] Such as:

microsoft is going to allow the Us government to easly spy on you via built in software in vista that the cia and nsa can use to acces your PC, and as far as I know that won't be removed from the EU version.

Where did you get that info from, and how reliable is the source? It seems to me that it's highly unlikely that, that will happen.

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And DEATH eVADER, you like like 20mins down the road from me .

 

[Gray Fox]

Yeah, now that i read it, it does seem like a conspiracy theaory. But I read it on a site critizising tcp and pallidium technology, and in a pc mag. I can't find it.
But I can't find those, so don't take it as a fact. The best i could find now is this.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4713018.stm

 

[destrukt]

i don't see why this would be a 'shock,' maybe a little 'hey, no media player .. look, a red car !'

people where saying the exact same things about tcp/palladium years and years ago, they were all freaking out and saying evil microsoft are, yet what happened of it ? nothing and there seems like it will be nothing this time, though there is drm now, with some music and some videos, just nothing like tcp/palladium.


roseh, they've been beta testing for quite some time, and feature wise the os is very, very complete. also, those morons are already bashing vista. :x

 

[rosseh]

rosseh, they've been beta testing for quite some time, and feature wise the os is very, very complete. also, those morons are already bashing vista. :x

That was my point. He said it was early for them to be anouncing it, and I was saying no it isn't. 10 months isn't long at all.

I know it's pretty complete, build 5308 was released last week and they included side bars and stuff which is probably alright... I wouldn't know .

 

[StardogChampion]

WMP is useless other than for buffering pron.

 

[Cole]

Why is this a shock?
THIS HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR QUITE A FEW MONTHS NOW.
If you have been at all following up with Vista, Europe has basically said "Make a version of Vista(I also believe Xp will to) without Media Center or don't sell ur shit here"

Besides a far more serious threat is that fact that microsoft is going to allow the Us government to easly spy on you via built in software in vista that the cia and nsa can use to acces your PC, and as far as I know that won't be removed from the EU version.

Drugs are bad mkay...

[Edit] As a matter of fact, this might cause a big divide between Europe and the rest of the world, considering there are a lot of media out there that uses, or needs Windows Media Player to run. Unless they have come up with some sort of universal encoding, they might just loose a big portion of their market

In Europe they were demanded to have a version of Vista without windows media player, but you can still buy a version with windows media player if you want. This wasn't Microsofts decision. It was either not being able to sell Vista in Europe or listen to them and sell a version of Vista without windows media player.
Hard Choice?

 

[StardogChampion]

It will probably be the first thing that gets added to Windows Update in the Optional category anyway.

I'm glad they've been told to remove it. It was annoyingly integrated into XP wans't it? Just like Internet Explorer.

 

[destrukt]

That was my point. He said it was early for them to be anouncing it, and I was saying no it isn't. 10 months isn't long at all.

I know it's pretty complete, build 5308 was released last week and they included side bars and stuff which is probably alright... I wouldn't know .

released just a few days ago and was leaked onto the web in < 3 hours. of course, i don't have it, or anything. :upstare:

i think i did miss the point, but i will lay some blame on you -- go team.

 

[Cole]

idk I use it....for me whatever works. I've used Itunes, Winamp...never felt like re downloading em...WMP works perfectly fine for me. Plays music and can shuffle and auto update it's listings with the directories.

But I do agree that not everyone likes it therefor this is a very good step. I've also heard that apparantly it will be easy to actually uninstall(Yes actually uninstall) it on Vista.

 

[Chris D]

It might be good shock, or a bad one, depending on your views of the software.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4754462.stm

Was put up this morning, you can read about all the six versions available. To be personally honest, they are marketing this too early as they need to know if they can deliver on all of their features.

[Edit] As a matter of fact, this might cause a big divide between Europe and the rest of the world, considering there are a lot of media out there that uses, or needs Windows Media Player to run. Unless they have come up with some sort of universal encoding, they might just loose a big portion of their market

Most of Europe has the same deal as Windows XP, though it is the consumer choice whether or not they want to buy the "Lite" copy with no Windows Media Player or the standard full copy.

I've never seen the Lite version in the UK.

They're not marketing it too early at all. The February beta I'll be getting through my workplace shortly is a fully feature-locked version. No more features will be added and all will be included. They just need to tweak and iron out the bugs now.

We'll see it before 2007.

 

[carrera]

NOOOOO!!!!!

 

[$kelet0r]

meh
wmp is only useful for streaming video - its alright for everything else
thinking about it it still would be my first choice over itunes, winamp etc. with realplayer as no. 2

 

[Reaktor4]

[Edit] As a matter of fact, this might cause a big divide between Europe and the rest of the world, considering there are a lot of media out there that uses, or needs Windows Media Player to run.

I think media player classic can play everything wmp can (along with realplayer files etc)

The system is aimed at preventing tampering with computers but it would also help prevent people from downloading unlicensed films or media.
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Professor Anderson said people were discussing the idea of making computer vendors ensure "back door keys" to encrypted material were made available.
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Critics say the companies behind most trusted computing want to use digital rights management to ensure users cannot use programs they have not approved.

Awesome.