vivendi just lost vs valve

CloSe2InSaNitY · Oct 4, 2004

vivendi just lost vs valve ( spec )

since VUG released CS:CZ to cybercafés wich Valve said was illegal now they want to hit VUG back and release just CS:s.. because now the scores would be ''even''. and the judge cant complain this way.

now all the people that are actually buying hl2 via VALVe meaning that VUG will see their proffits go down really fast, because there are alot of impatient people out there!.

VUG will be forced to announce hl2 - gold status.
and ship the game world wide. fast as possible or they wont even be able to compensate theire revenues slump..

they are just teasing eachother.. sounds logical huh.

Sinnsykt · Oct 4, 2004

thats the scenario i'm a hopin' for

Asuka · Oct 4, 2004

Huh? When did Vu release Cs:s beta to cefes? Valve did that they made a open beta for cefe program owners Cs:cz and ati voucher peeps.

SFLUFAN · Oct 4, 2004

You may want to rephrase your thread title pal - it sounds as if VU lost to Valve in the summary judgment hearing when nothing of the sort has happened as yet.

You're gonna get :flame: for passing off speculation as fact.

lans · Oct 4, 2004

WTF?

You shocked me with the title. Don't use a wrong title, it's not cool. You have no proof they've lost, except your own assumption.

Sinnsykt · Oct 4, 2004

i think he meant CS:Z being given to cyber cafes

SFLUFAN · Oct 4, 2004

lans said:
WTF?

You shocked me with the title. Don't use a wrong title, it's not cool. You have no proof they've lost, except your own assumption.

My point exactly :thumbs: - his post is conjecture nothing more.

CloSe2InSaNitY · Oct 4, 2004

Raziel-Jcd said:
Huh? When did Vu release Cs:s beta to cefes? Valve did that they made a open beta for cefe program owners Cs:cz and ati voucher peeps.

they said that trial case.. i might want to look it up.
counter claims ... remember

Yellonet · Oct 4, 2004

Wasn't that Sierra(now, only as name, a part of VUG), who released CS?

KagePrototype · Oct 4, 2004

Why does everyone still assume Vivendi are holding HL2 back? For all you know, it's still in RC testing.

SFLUFAN · Oct 4, 2004

Not CS:S to the cafes, it was CS:CZ that was released to the cafes.

CloSe2InSaNitY · Oct 4, 2004

lans said:
WTF?

You shocked me with the title. Don't use a wrong title, it's not cool. You have no proof they've lost, except your own assumption.

fine..

Wilco · Oct 4, 2004

whut?

methinks I've missed something.

Valve are probably releasing CS:S immediately because they can, they own it (including IP) not Vivendi so they can set the release date. This also rather cunningly encourages people to buy over Steam with is a nice side-effect. Valve cannot actually release HL2 over Steam until VUG ship it retail. I see what you mean about losing sales because people want to play CS:S straight away, but I doubt VUG are holding back on HL2 anyway.

CloSe2InSaNitY · Oct 4, 2004

no actually Valve is the one who is maniplulating. Vivendi cant do anything. but everyone thinks Valve's innocent.

Asuka · Oct 4, 2004

KagePrototype said:
Why does everyone still assume Vivendi are holding HL2 back? For all you know, it's still in RC testing.

Thats hard to believe. There is no way its still being tested.

CloSe2InSaNitY · Oct 4, 2004

Wilco said:
whut?

methinks I've missed something.

Valve are probably releasing CS:S immediately because they can, they own it (including IP) not Vivendi so they can set the release date. This also rather cunningly encourages people to buy over Steam with is a nice side-effect. Valve cannot actually release HL2 over Steam until VUG ship it retail. I see what you mean about losing sales because people want to play CS:S straight away, but I doubt VUG are holding back on HL2 anyway.

Valve is just forcing Vivendi on another way now.. and its a damned good way too

KagePrototype · Oct 4, 2004

Raziel-Jcd said:
Thats hard to believe. There is no way its still being tested.

It's only been just under a month, for three games. Sounds feasible to me.

CloSe2InSaNitY · Oct 4, 2004

KagePrototype said:
It's only been just under a month, for three games. Sounds feasible to me.

CS:S isnt even to be tested by Vivendi they dont even want to test it.. concidering lawsuit circumstances.. and it had an in game bug report button didnt it..

no.. its just marketing skills now somehow.. Vivendi must admit or they will go bankrupt.

ShinRa · Oct 4, 2004

Why...WHY...WHYY must we reiterate what we've all known a billion times in different wording....

Gunner · Oct 4, 2004

It's amazing how everybody suddenly becomes an expert on business-laws in these threads. I'm sorry but Vivendi will not go bankrupt, VUG has a lot more going on than just HL² you know. :|

KagePrototype · Oct 4, 2004

CloSe2InSaNitY said:
CS:S isnt even to be tested by Vivendi they dont even want to test it.. concidering lawsuit circumstances.. and it had an in game bug report button didnt it...

I really doubt we found all the bugs.

There was a CS:S update after the RC was sent, so that goes to show there were still bugs to be found. And if they didn't want to test it, why did Valve send them an RC for CS:S?

Asuka · Oct 4, 2004

CB | Para said:
It's amazing how everybody suddenly becomes an expert on business-laws in these threads. I'm sorry but Vivendi will not go bankrupt, VUG has a lot more going on than just HL² you know. :|

Agreed.

Phosis · Oct 4, 2004

CB | Para said:
It's amazing how everybody suddenly becomes an expert on business-laws in these threads. I'm sorry but Vivendi will not go bankrupt, VUG has a lot more going on than just HL² you know. :|

CB said:
Don't quote me!

Yeah its like saying a dollar store would go bankrupt if it lost its neon glow pens or lanyards.

CloSe2InSaNitY · Oct 4, 2004

CB | Para said:
It's amazing how everybody suddenly becomes an expert on business-laws in these threads. I'm sorry but Vivendi will not go bankrupt, VUG has a lot more going on than just HL² you know. :|

its very interesting that some poeple always want to flame peoples opinions. but when they have to make statement themselves they'd rather run away and cry.

wake up and smell the ashes bitch

DrasticDR · Oct 4, 2004

ronald mcdonald still thinks you are a n00b.

Edge · Oct 4, 2004

CloSe2InSaNitY said:
wake up and smell the ashes bitch

Is this spilling over from another thread? Did I miss something? Anyway I think VUG is going to and already has taken a hit from this delay. We can only hope VALVe comes out on top so we can look forward to more content in the future.
:burp:

Absinthe · Oct 4, 2004

CloSe2InSaNitY said:
its very interesting that some poeple always want to flame peoples opinions. but when they have to make statement themselves they'd rather run away and cry.

And it's also interesting when people talk out of their asses.

...

Oh, look! You're doing it just now!

CloSe2InSaNitY · Oct 4, 2004

Absinthe said:
And it's also interesting when people talk out of their asses.

...

Oh, look! You're doing it just now!

i am supposed to laugh now or what?

Absinthe · Oct 4, 2004

CloSe2InSaNitY said:
i am supposed to laugh now or what?

Possibly.

Gunner · Oct 4, 2004

CloSe2InSaNitY said:
its very interesting that some poeple always want to flame peoples opinions. but when they have to make statement themselves they'd rather run away and cry.

wake up and smell the ashes bitch

Alright... moving on!

Ecthe|ioN · Oct 4, 2004

Something went terribly wrong somewhere in this thread.

Let's just hope CS:S comes out this week after all.

Demonmerc · Oct 4, 2004

CloSe2InSaNitY said:
CS:S isnt even to be tested by Vivendi they dont even want to test it.. concidering lawsuit circumstances.. and it had an in game bug report button didnt it..

Where did you get this info?

It's false...

Ownzed · Oct 5, 2004

I hope so.

sHm0zY · Oct 5, 2004

VGU is so gay.

Gavon · Oct 5, 2004

If vu is so worried why have they not announced gold status yet?

Navy Man · Oct 5, 2004

like someone said does VU have any rights whatsoever over Counter-Strike Source at all?

Because i reckon that if its to be released then obviously they woudn't, because i don't think Valve would just release it to become even (makes it sound like a childrens fight).

This further more tells me that there is obvioulsy a HL2 multiplayer that has not been mentioned, because i mean Valve stated back along time ago that they were not going to disclose anything about it. Therefore maybe the game reviewers were also not aware when they reviewed the game?? Or did they test a RC of Valves or something?? Because i mean they could of added a multiplayer version which they sent to VU.

I'm only being optimistic as i just can't believe that the big suprise was cs:source when really was anyone suprised?

Spugmaster · Oct 5, 2004

sHm0zY said:
VGU is so gay.

So is VUG - who is VGU...?

[LP]Goin Postal · Oct 5, 2004

Spugmaster said:
So is VUG - who is VGU...?

The Video gamers union

UKchaos2 · Oct 5, 2004

VU will lose out, but they will still sell way more copies at retail than Valve will with Steam. At least over the long run.

Yellonet · Oct 5, 2004

sHm0zY said:
VGU is so gay.

Yeah.. those guys are quite the jolly fellas', I agree.

vivendi just lost vs valve

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