Was stuck at Wal-Mart for 30 minutes!!

[CyberPitz]

Maybe a car finatic can help me out if they read this as well..even though nobody understands it. I have a 1988 Mazda RX-7 for the record....

On occasion *usually if I turn my car off, and try to start it again in a short time..anything from 1 to 30 minutes* it won't start. It will just keep trying. If I turn off the Fuel Injection *Take out the fuse* and try to start it while it's not getting gas...it will still not start...the weird thing is, I put the fuse back in, and it usually starts up..although recently it takes 2-3 times of trying to get it going. Now I have a kill switch that is attached to my Fuel Injection fuse. So flip the switch, no Fuel Injection. So I'll flip the switch, try to start it, flip it back, car gets up and running. Here is the problem.

I was at Wal-Mart, getting ready to leave. My car did it's little problem, so I grabbed the Kill Switch, and flipped it, and started to start it. Well, the kill switch came off from teh wire *cheap 2+ year old tape ftw...* So with the wires not connected at all, my car wouldn't start...it kept the fuel injection off. So here I was trying to put that old shitty tape back on with the switch...wouldn't work, the tape sucked. I suppose I could have gone inside the mart and bought some, but it was dark out...

I tried to go into the engine, and take out the kill switch wires...*the wire leading to the switch inside my car, I unattached it from my fuse box..*that was a no go. Put that back together, so I ended up just twisting those 2 wires together. That was a feat in itself, since there was only like 1/4 of an inch to work with. So I tried to strip one of the wires a bit more..but that didn't work, because the wire was stuck on the end of the wire. So I started to pull out little PIECES of the wire. I started to freak out, thinking I'll never get my car started again. I tried to twist the wires together, and start the car...a huge spart came from the wires, and a horrid smell filled my car. I thought I was gonna die. Well, I held the wires together, as I drove home. Now think, my car is a manual...and driving with one hand is bad for me. I was scared of dying the entire time I got home alright, though reversing into my parking spot like I usually do was pretty hard. I don't have Power Steering in my car, so I had to heave and ho on that damn wheel. I feel like I gained 20 pounds of musle in my right arm \=

I guess I'm going to find some electricle tape, and tape the switch and wires back together when the day comes. I hope I don't have to drive to work tomarrow holding the damn wires again. My car has had electicle problems in it since day 1 of having it *which is now just over 1 year of actually owning it..* I was thinking about buying a new 2nd gen RX-7, but the cheapest one is like 3 grand...and I have $400 to my name. I was going to use my car now as a parts car, since it's relativly screwed....

Anyway, that was the longest thread I've ever created, so I'm gonna end it.

 

[OvA]

I would just have asked short recoil for a piggy-back ride

 

[CyberPitz]

I would just have asked short recoil for a piggy-back ride

He was AFK

 

[Asknoone]

Beats being stuck in a toilet for 4 hours.

 

[CyberPitz]

Beats being stuck in a toilet for 4 hours.

At least when you're done with the toilet, you don't have to figure out away of getting it's handle back on. Hell, their easy to flush yourself...just open the back of it, and pull on the appropriate metal piece!

 

[Fishlore]

I have an RX-8. Hopefully they resolved these problems. My last car had electrical problems. One day it went insane. Turn on the radio, the wipers would turn on. Turn on the air and the doorlocks would engage. I ended up getting pulled over because the horn was blaring and the lights were flashing. The cops thought I stole it. It ended up being an onboard cpu issue. After almost one thousand dollars they finally fixed it. Luckily it was under warranty.

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

RX-8, lolz I won't even begin to tell you the stories about them when my brother was a salesmen for Mazda...wait 1 will do, one engulfed into flames, needless to say it was done for.

Cyber, put an LT1 in it+ new wiring harness and you should be fine.

 

[SilentKilla]

Did you try asking a car person about a Module? Usually if the car will not start until it cools back down then its the module. It also may shut off when the car gets to hot. Check the module.

 

[Fishlore]

RX-8, lolz I won't even begin to tell you the stories about them when my brother was a salesmen for Mazda...wait 1 will do, one engulfed into flames, needless to say it was done for.

Cyber, put an LT1 in it+ new wiring harness and you should be fine.

Yeah my car was recalled for that purpose. Ten minutes later and the car was back to me. It's been a fantastic car for me thus far. I absolutely love it. Nothing like the P.O.S. Ford car I had before it. That one was recalled every week.

 

[CyberPitz]

RX-8, lolz I won't even begin to tell you the stories about them when my brother was a salesmen for Mazda...wait 1 will do, one engulfed into flames, needless to say it was done for.

Cyber, put an LT1 in it+ new wiring harness and you should be fine.

Hmm. I'll have to look around for this "LT1"...

Did you try asking a car person about a Module? Usually if the car will not start until it cools back down then its the module. It also may shut off when the car gets to hot. Check the module.

That sounds rather expensive..I'll just go for a new 7...

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

LT1's are rather easy to find, I know you don't want to shell out too much, so thats why I never suggested an LS1

 

[CyberPitz]

I wish I had the money for this baby. Looks like a pretty decent ride..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1988...oryZ6327QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

2 days left Maybe I can win and get him to do a payment plan with me? D:

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

Hmm. I'll have to look around for this "LT1"...
That sounds rather expensive..I'll just go for a new 7...

I'm pretty sure that's a Chevy block, and there is no such thing as a new rx-7. The first gen (as well as most 80s Japanese sports coupes) is electrical crap, and you are far better of finding an early 90s FC.

As for your problem with starting, I am not familiar with your engine much less rotaries but you might be running rich and flooding the uh, compression chamber. Starting with the efi fuse out is probably clearing the flooded fuel out prepping it for a clean start.

Tell me, what does your exhaust gas look like, what kind of sounds are you getting at start up, do you smell fuel at all?

 

[CyberPitz]

I'm pretty sure that's a Chevy block, and there is no such thing as a new rx-7. The first gen (as well as most 80s Japanese sports coupes) is electrical crap, and you are far better of finding an early 90s FC.

As for your problem with starting, I am not familiar with your engine much less rotaries but you might be running rich and flooding the uh, compression chamber. Starting with the efi fuse out is probably clearing the flooded fuel out prepping it for a clean start.

Tell me, what does your exhaust gas look like, what kind of sounds are you getting at start up, do you smell fuel at all?

To answer your first part, yes I know there are no "new" rx-7's except 1500 rx-7s made in early 2000's.

Yes my car runs rich, I've tried to make it more lean..but, it stays rich. that's why I get ~200 miles per tank. That thing eats my fuel. I've tried playing with it, nothing. The only thing it does is changes my idle time from right under 1 to 2.

I was saying a new 7 by buying one in better condition. I need to pay more than $900 for the new one

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

To answer your first part, yes I know there are no "new" rx-7's except 1500 rx-7s made in early 2000's.

Yes my car runs rich, I've tried to make it more lean..but, it stays rich. that's why I get ~200 miles per tank. That thing eats my fuel. I've tried playing with it, nothing. The only thing it does is changes my idle time from right under 1 to 2.

I was saying a new 7 by buying one in better condition. I need to pay more than $900 for the new one

I recommend diverting "new" rx7 funds towards the vehicle you currently own.

There's nothing crappier than inheriting someone else's problems. You don't know anything about the car on ebay but you know what you have.
Troubleshoot.
There are a few things that could be causing your ride to drink.

Try cleaning your mass air flow sensor with a cotton swab and alcohol. Adjust your throttle position sensor. Clean out your injectors and egr valve if you have one.
I suppose wankels don't use timing belts.

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You didn't install an ebay "performance chip", did you?

 

[CyberPitz]

I recommend diverting "new" rx7 funds towards the vehicle you currently own.

There's nothing crappier than inheriting someone else's problems. You don't know anything about the car on ebay but you know what you have.
Troubleshoot.
There are a few things that could be causing your ride to drink.

Try cleaning your mass air flow sensor with a cotton swab and alcohol. Adjust your throttle position sensor. Clean out your injectors and egr valve if you have one.
I suppose wankels don't use timing belts.

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You didn't install an ebay "performance chip", did you?

OF COURSE I DID!!! Well, the problem with putting funds towards this car is it's gonna be VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY expensive...The transmission..need to rebuild/new one of those. Needs a new windshield, the entire electicle system needs redone. That's just the top parts..there's a shitload to do after the importants. Body work, paint job, Rims, ugh...

 

[xLostx]

get a bank loan and buy a decent car, unless you're like 16 and dont have a job, in that case, die in a fire.

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

OF COURSE I DID!!! Well, the problem with putting funds towards this car is it's gonna be VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY expensive...The transmission..need to rebuild/new one of those. Needs a new windshield, the entire electicle system needs redone. That's just the top parts..there's a shitload to do after the importants. Body work, paint job, Rims, ugh...

Dude what did I say, new wiring harness+LT1 swap good for a long time to come. And if you don't want to do that, 13b-rew's aren't that expensive so shell out some cash for one.

 

[CyberPitz]

get a bank loan and buy a decent car, unless you're like 16 and dont have a job, in that case, die in a fire.

I'm 20, have a job, but no credit..so I don't think the bank would give me a loan.

 

[JNightshade]

Knock over a convenience store! You know you want to...

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

OF COURSE I DID!!! Well, the problem with putting funds towards this car is it's gonna be VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY expensive...The transmission..need to rebuild/new one of those. Needs a new windshield, the entire electicle system needs redone. That's just the top parts..there's a shitload to do after the importants. Body work, paint job, Rims, ugh...

If you are serious about the chip, take it out asap.

It's also time to learn to rebuild things yourself.
But there are a lot of questions that need to be answered.
How many miles are on your car?
Auto or manual?
How bad is the windsheild?

I automagically assumed your electric would need to be done. Most late 80s cars have shit for electrical systems.

You might want to check out the rx7 forms as well.

 

[CyberPitz]

If you are serious about the chip, take it out asap.

It's also time to learn to rebuild things yourself.
But there are a lot of questions that need to be answered.
How many miles are on your car?
Auto or manual?
How bad is the windsheild?

I automagically assumed your electric would need to be done. Most late 80s cars have shit for electrical systems.

You might want to check out the rx7 forms as well.

No, I bought it from an individual an hour away.

All together, over 230K. Engine was rebuilt some time ago *not sure when a few years I think...again, no clue*
Manual. You think I'd drive a tainted 7?
Windshield is bad enough to where it can't pass inspection again, but it's drivable. here's a pic.

http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=im0005169vm.jpg

learn to rebuild things myself? I sure hope you're not insinuating I learn to rebuild my tranny...cause, that's info that will disappear in my head.

Expensive mechanics ftw....well, if I can find one that's gutsy enough to work on it *3 have passed it up so far..* ..wait! Maybe I can just go to walmart and get my oil changed, and take my car, go and strip my plug and such, and let it drain, and then when I'm out of oil, BAM...

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

No, I bought it from an individual an hour away.
All together, over 230K. Engine was rebuilt some time ago *not sure when a few years I think...again, no clue*
Manual. You think I'd drive a tainted 7?
Windshield is bad enough to where it can't pass inspection again, but it's drivable. here's a pic.
http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=im0005169vm.jpg
learn to rebuild things myself? I sure hope you're not insinuating I learn to rebuild my tranny...cause, that's info that will disappear in my head.
Expensive mechanics ftw....well, if I can find one that's gutsy enough to work on it *3 have passed it up so far..* ..wait! Maybe I can just go to walmart and get my oil changed, and take my car, go and strip my plug and such, and let it drain, and then when I'm out of oil, BAM...

Nomatter who you got it from, if it is a black box with 4 wires poking from it, don't install it.
Damn, that Ebay FC is low mileage compared to yours. I'd get it.
If anything you can swap parts between the two.
Manual transmission are much easier to work on than automatics.

At any rate, find your maf and stuff and give them a cleaning.
You can actually sit your maf in a bowl if vinegar to restore the sensor.
Find your O2 sensors and clean or replace those. They should be sitting right before your catalytic converter.