Was watching TV

[15357]

And guess what I saw? A documentary on protesters beating up police with iron sticks here.

WTF is the matter with them?

We should just outlaw all protests and use APCs and the military to subdue protesters.

Of course, theres the civil and human rights shit, but tell that to the police officers burned to death after getting hit by a fecking molotov (sp?) cocktail.

Outlaw protesting and save society.

-end of rant without reson-

 

[CyberPitz]

Then there would be riots of people who say "THERE SHOULD BE PROTESTING" and more would die for no reason...

 

[Naudian]

Then there would be riots of people who say "THERE SHOULD BE PROTESTING" and more would die for no reason...

The less humans on this planet, the better. Cuz humans are a bitch...n stuff

 

[DaveyCrocket]

Earth is doomed.

 

[CyberPitz]

Earth is doomed.

Only because of the gas that we all expell from our anus. It's whats deteriorating the Ozone. Learned that on VH-1 We Love the 80's 87.

 

[Jintor]

Oh deah.

 

[Steven]

Civil disobedience is still disobedience. :naughty:

 

[Cormeh]

I say just allow the police to crack skull. Edinburgh was a joke during that G-8 thingymabob.

 

[destrukt]

anyone who thinks they're going to actually change/improve something by doing some ignorant protest walk should get a clue.

 

[Cormeh]

anyone who thinks they're going to actually change/improve something by doing some ignorant protest walk should get a clue.

And a job! OMGLOL!

Half the battle is that if people are putting on a genuine protest (I.E. with no intent to get violent, but to shout their mouths off at police and the like) it usually attracts thugs who are basically looking for an excuse to pelt the law with everything and anything.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Tru.dat ^^

We should just outlaw all protests and use APCs and the military to subdue protesters.

Perhaps this attitude is the reason they feel the need to protest, and so violently. Now there are always thugs, but hasn't it occured to you there might be a good reason for protest? Seems that there is if you judge by all the annocdotes you've told us before about life in South Korea.

Tell me, how are peaceful demonstrations usually handled?

The other thing is, considering the crazy amount of propoganda, it sounds like a documentary produced to paint all protesters as violent crazy killers beating the shit out of innocent police officers. Not saying there aren't any violent crazy killers or that there aren't any innocent police officers. But looking at history I can't say I've ever heard of a protest where rioters have spontaneoously gone medieval on the police with no provocation or background of civil unrest and discontent.

Outlaw protesting and save society.

CLEVAR

 

[Jintor]

Hmm... recent protests were against Howard's Industrial Reforms laws, where a bunch of truckies blocked off one of our major highways for half the day.

No politicians were effected. But were voters? YES!

 

[15357]

Tru.dat ^^



Perhaps this attitude is the reason they feel the need to protest, and so violently. Now there are always thugs, but hasn't it occured to you there might be a good reason for protest?
-perhaps, but anti-goverment = bad. economic prosperity = good
Seems that there is if you judge by all the annocdotes you've told us before about life in South Korea.

Tell me, how are peaceful demonstrations usually handled?
-The police just let them be, unless they're blocking traffic or might go violent, or praising communism.

The other thing is, considering the crazy amount of propaganda, it sounds like a documentary produced to paint all protesters as violent crazy killers beating the shit out of innocent police officers.
-Well, it wasn't exactly a documentary but I couldn't find a better word. and it showed the police throwing rocks at protesters while getting beaten up with iron stick and LPG Canisters. It said that several people were injured by the rocks. WTF? I suppose iron sticks are better than rocks...
Not saying there aren't any violent crazy killers or that there aren't any innocent police officers. But looking at history I can't say I've ever heard of a protest where rioters have spontaneoously gone medieval on the police with no provocation or background of civil unrest and discontent.
-We seem to take everything to the extreme


CLEVAR
-I just realized the stupidity of that statement :E

answer in quote.

 

[The Monkey]

Are you against democracy, 15357? The freedom of speech is one of the most important factors in a democracy.

 

[CptStern]

meh it's nice that it's the police getting their wacks instead of protestors for a change ...I'm not saying they should be firebombed to death but they are entitled to get what they dish out ...most police are their to protect the state not you, the individual


kinda makes up for her

http://www.labournet.net/docks2/0304/mwmpic3.jpg

and for him

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38456000/jpg/_38456091_kabul6ap.jpg

and him

http://members.fortunecity.com/fstav1/dolof2.jpg

and this guy:

http://www.manalaa.net:8888/files/terror-260_640x480.jpg


and this guy:

http://www.chem.ucla.edu/~craigim/P...0030323 AntiWar March/slides/beating2_07c.jpg

and this guy:

http://www.lib.jjay.cuny.edu/rootimages/suppolice.JPG


and this girl:

http://apc.resist.ca/uploads/123/police-brutality.gif

and this guy:


http://words.yovo.info/img/togo-4-05-policebrutality-ap.jpg




15357 you need to step down from that ivory tower you live in and see how the proletariat live ...it's nice to be able judge from your nice cozy couch while people fight for what they believe in


like many have already pointed out ..the people who go to protests to start violence are in the overwhelming majority. Usually in a crowd of say 10,000 there'll be a half dozen people who feel the need to take it to the next level. The very essence of protest is non violence ...you'd understand that if you actually went to one

 

[Da-Muffin-Man]

You know.....you should start a protest to protest the protesters! :|

 

[WacK]

ooooohhh! an APC.. gggrraaaarrrrrrhh...........

 

[Ennui]

And guess what I saw? A documentary on protesters beating up police with iron sticks here.

WTF is the matter with them?

We should just outlaw all protests and use APCs and the military to subdue protesters.

Of course, theres the civil and human rights shit, but tell that to the police officers burned to death after getting hit by a fecking molotov (sp?) cocktail.

Outlaw protesting and save society.

-end of rant without reson-

How about no? Move to a country where the government has that degree of control over people's personal freedoms. You won't support it for long. It's far more common for the protestors to get the shit kicked out of them by police and riot control without provocation than the other way around.

Also, if protest was illegal, there would still be protesting, and the governments would deal with them much more violently... example? Tiananmen, China, 1989. An indeterminate number (generally estimated between 400-4000) of peaceful protestors murdered by the Chinese army because they wanted democracy. Oh, they fought back, but they didn't provoke it, on the whole.

 

[Teta_Bonita]

And guess what I saw? A documentary on protesters beating up police with iron sticks here.

WTF is the matter with them?

We should just outlaw all protests and use APCs and the military to subdue protesters.

Of course, theres the civil and human rights , but tell that to the police officers burned to after getting hit by a fecking molotov (sp?) tail.

Outlaw protesting and save society.

-end of rant without reson-

f*ck that. Here in western civilization, the ability to (peacefully) protest is my constitutional right. And I'm not gonna give that right up any time soon.

 

[Jintor]

Also, if protest was illegal, there would still be protesting, and the governments would deal with them much more violently... example? Tiananmen, China, 1989. An indeterminate number (generally estimated between 400-4000) of peaceful protestors murdered by the Chinese army because they wanted democracy. Oh, they fought back, but they didn't provoke it, on the whole.

Afterwards, the Chinese Government got a bunch of actors and hired them to set themselves on fire in the Square again a couple of years later, and then denounced the protesters and the Falun Gong as 'evil' because they were willing to resort to extremes to achieve their ends (apparently).

 

[kirovman]

How about the government just take your right to vote away from you?

Obviously they know what's best for you, after all, the leaders are descended from God, right?

 

[15357]

My rant has made some people angry....



Please, ignore all that I said except for the police-beating part. I was trying to 'exaggerate' my err, opinions by err, um, the APC thingy.

And I meant that protests that may threaten social order, and that might go violent be banned.

Also, I thnk that the 'freedom of speach' could be done by ways other then protests and iron pipes.

 

[kirovman]

My rant has made some people angry....



Please, ignore all that I said except for the police-beating part. I was trying to 'exaggerate' my err, opinions by err, um, the APC thingy.

And I meant that protests that may threaten social order, and that might go violent be banned.

Also, I thnk that the 'freedom of speach' could be done by ways other then protests and iron pipes.

Well, quite often an organised protest is the only means people have of making their voice heard. Obviously they should protest peacefully, if they start being violent, there should be no excuse.

But often, criminals use the protests as an excuse to make trouble, so giving the protest a bad reputation.

 

[Absinthe]

How would banning violent protests change anything.

 

[15357]

I just saw some anti-APEC protesters getting hosed down by police, them beating up police with iron pipes. They were dragging riot police to the center of the 'riot' and then beat them up mercilessly.

Evil bastards.

 

[$kelet0r]

violence begets violence
the police are civil protection - not the protection of special interests, the government, social structure numbers - man

protesting will be your job when you reach your late teens - the young must usurp the old, challenge the old ways, innovate
because if there is no dissent there is no progress

don't knock people's need to express their views in the way they choose

 

[Sulkdodds]

Also, I thnk that the 'freedom of speach' could be done by ways other then protests and iron pipes.

Generally, it's done like that because all other avenues have been closed.

 

[Solaris]

And guess what I saw? A documentary on protesters beating up police with iron sticks here.

WTF is the matter with them?

We should just outlaw all protests and use APCs and the military to subdue protesters.

Of course, theres the civil and human rights shit, but tell that to the police officers burned to death after getting hit by a fecking molotov (sp?) cocktail.

Outlaw protesting and save society.

-end of rant without reson-

OMFG, outlaw the peoples right to express there opinion.
The vast majority of violence in protests in BECUASE of the police, see the miners strike for example, the police just beat them all.

I posted a clip a while ago of Police Breaking the arms of peace ful pro-life demonstraters with numchucks.

And I love your generalisation there:

I just saw a bad Protestor>All protestors are bad.

Edit:

I just saw some anti-APEC protesters getting hosed down by police, them beating up police with iron pipes. They were dragging riot police to the center of the 'riot' and then beat them up mercilessly.

So, why were they doing this, maybe its becuase the police deserved it? Or maybe they were just bastards. Either way it doesnt justify banning protests.