we all need more Sikth in our diets

[KagePrototype]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=93ezq27Qgz8

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[knut]

Sikth are mad amounts of awesome. Aswell as being, in general, mad. I must've seen them.. what, 5 times now I think. Never disapoint when it comes to a live show.

The new album is so good, too, although not as good as The Trees...

 

[ComradeBadger]

Not my thing. I HATE those type of vocals, and the generic generic metal..

Soz.

 

[ericms]

Lame.

 

[Aenama]

yay a Slipknot rip-off.

 

[KagePrototype]

yay a Slipknot rip-off.

must...not...ban...nnrrgghhhh

 

[586FAC75]

That link needs a "Contains Metal" disclaimer.

 

[knut]

the generic generic metal..

As much as I agree that metal, on a whole, is a very generic genre of music, I wouldn't really say it about a band like Sikth. As far as the term generic [same-sounding, etc] goes, theres not alot out there doing the same thing they are, unlike alot of bands around at the moment plastered around on the covers of magazines like Kerrang, NME or Terrorizor.

 

[ComradeBadger]

I'm afraid to someone who isn't into the genre, they sound like almost every other example I've heard of the genre.

The magazines you mentioned are rather dire.. not a fan of any of them

But yeah, not my thing really, I don't think I could tell 'good' metal from 'bad' metal.

 

[knut]

Yeah, it's fair enough. The magazines are pretty rubbish, I know, but amongst all the bands out today, Sikth are doing something different within them all. But looking closer at them and beyond the 'mainstream', they can be considered generic to ALOT of bands doing that kinda of thing, it's just as you said, as your not a fan of metal in general, I presumed you were comparing them to MetalBand #23375... or something.

I know it makes sense in my head, anyway.

/leave.

 

[gick]

Sikth are all kinds of awesome, but I didnt like their new album much. TBH, my favourite bits are when they go off on a big long trippy melodic thingy. And Scent of the Obscene is easily one of my top 10 favourite songs ever.

What do you think of this one badger?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79yP5MJw_6w

 

[ComradeBadger]

I prefer it to the other one, but I don't really see what they're doing thats so 'different' to other bands in their field..

I really don't like screamed/growled/whatever vocals at all.. I think they ruin songs completely.

 

[Lucid]

Not a death metal fan... the song started out nice though... until the screaming banshee stuff kicked in.

 

[Markdude]

I'm not a huge metal fan, but I dig SikTh.

And for the record, they are most certainly not death metal or a Slipknot ripoff. The latter being the most far-fetched offense.

 

[Fliko]

I prefer it to the other one, but I don't really see what they're doing thats so 'different' to other bands in their field..

I really don't like screamed/growled/whatever vocals at all.. I think they ruin songs completely.

Well, depends. You could use screaming vocals at some point in a song to get out the point and raise the excitment (Or angst in the case of rock).

The think that gets me about metal is how the drummer is just a beat machine, and everyone else sounds pretty offtime

 

[mortiz]

I like the video, the music isn't great though.

 

[Absinthe]

Sounds indistinguishable from the rest of the crap in its genre. And I'm sorry, but if your idea of "vocals" consists of growling/screaming your way through your songs, then you need to have your lungs ripped out.

I have developed an intense hatred for Metal in general. The rare cases in which two bands don't sound exactly alike still fail to raise them above the quality level of crap. Perhaps I'd be less judgmental if my brother didn't play it non-stop when he's around. But man... Pop stars at least have to learn to ****ing dance or something. I think the recipe for Metal is drinking excessively and then wailing about on your instruments like monkeys.

 

[mortiz]

Sounds indistinguishable from the rest of the crap in its genre. And I'm sorry, but if your idea of "vocals" consists of growling/screaming your way through your songs, then you need to have your lungs ripped out.

I have developed an intense hatred for Metal in general. The rare cases in which two bands don't sound exactly alike still fail to raise them above the quality level of crap. Perhaps I'd be less judgmental if my brother didn't play it non-stop when he's around. But man... Pop stars at least have to learn to ****ing dance or something. I think the recipe for Metal is drinking excessively and then wailing about on your instruments like monkeys.

I'm sorry, say what you will about this, but to group the whole metal genre under one banner is foolish imo. This is only one style of metal, one that I do not particularly enjoy either, but Metal is far more varied than you'd think. Honestly, you complain that Metal bands sound the same yet in the indie scene you've got a bunch of Oasis wannabees. I suppose it comes down to the fact that if you've acquired a taste for the music then you can notice the differences, if you don't like the genre of music then you're more likely not to pick up on the subtleties. Though you'd have to be pretty dense not to notice the differences between this and say classic Heavy Metal.

Pop stars at least have to learn to ****ing dance or something.

And people in Metal bands have to learn to play their instruments with some degree of competency so what's your point? There's no hard and fast rule about this to say that everyone in a metal band is an awesome guitarist or an awesome drummer, but usually the genre is far more demanding as far as instrumental skill goes that other genre's of music. Hell, some of the best guitarists in the world are Heavy Metal guitarists: Eddie Van Halen, Yngwie Malmsteen, Joe Satriani, Ritchie Blackmore, others were in bands that heavily influenced the direction Metal has taken, Eric Clapton for example for his work in Cream used quite a lot of heavy blues riffs and Jimmy Page for obvious reasons. Led Zeppelin were arguably a heavy metal band for god's sake.

 

[Doppelgofer]

metal is like anal leakage

 

[Absinthe]

I'm sorry, say what you will about this, but to group the whole metal genre under one banner is foolish imo.

My mistake. I should have specified a subgenre. But I don't like any Metal regardless. I don't care about any of the guitarists you mentioned, nor Led Zep. And for the most part, I think synchronized dance moves take more skill than power chords.

 

[DeusExMachina]

I'm all about viking and folk metal. Sikth are pretty good though.

 

[Pulse]

My mistake. I should have specified a subgenre. But I don't like any Metal regardless. I don't care about any of the guitarists you mentioned, nor Led Zep. And for the most part, I think synchronized dance moves take more skill than power chords.

The determiner for a good piece of synchronized dancing all relies on the choreography; any jackass can dance in unison with the right amount of coaching, look at Broadway!

Try learning up to Grade 8 guitar and tell me that dancing takes more skill. Just because you don't like a certain genre of music it doesn't mean said musicians from that genre are unskilled or unprofessional.

 

[Absinthe]

The determiner for a good piece of synchronized dancing all relies on the choreography; any jackass can dance in unison with the right amount of coaching, look at Broadway!

Try learning up to Grade 8 guitar and tell me that dancing takes more skill. Just because you don't like a certain genre of music it doesn't mean said musicians from that genre are unskilled or unprofessional.

The same complaint you leveled at synchronized dancing can apply equally to guitar. And hell, if you can't play, at least you can turn up the distortion to cover your subpar skills. Or maybe the singer can growl a little louder.

If I make any kind of reference to skill in regards to music, I'm talking about the compositional thought and ingenuity that goes into it. So you could be the best guitar player in the world, but that's not going to cover up bland, homogenized, shitty music (and yes, that is my personal opinion, I don't need a disclaimer). Technical skill on its own is worth absolutely zilch to me. So sure, they're proficient with their instruments. But their musical output shows no sign of any talent worth mentioning, and that's what matters. Your ability to kick bass drums real fast or rip a mean solo on your guitar is trivial at most.

And am I the only one who thinks that percussion in most metal is severely lacking? Those pussy, barely audible snare drums and pathetic bass thumps? It's as if no matter how hard they try, it has no balls.

 

[KagePrototype]

And am I the only one who thinks that percussion in most metal is severely lacking? Those pussy, barely audible snare drums and pathetic bass thumps? It's as if no matter how hard they try, it has no balls.

This much is true, though I'd blame shitty tin-can production more than anything.

 

[Absinthe]

You're probably right. But maybe years of stabbing my ear drums has sort of shifted my perspective. =\