Wha??? I'm speechless...

The 9/11 comission report is the final word. The report even takes this memo into consideration. The comission concluded that a lot of people were at fault.
 
Bodacious said:
The 9/11 comission report is the final word. The report even takes this memo into consideration. The comission concluded that a lot of people were at fault.
Actually they didn't blame anyone which is a huge problem with the commission. This memo clearly states that Bush isn't all that amazing on terrorism as he claimed in the campaign and he is partly to blame. He had many prior warnings that al queda was going to strike and so did the air lines; no one took any action.
 
It's bad, but for once I don't TOTALLY condone Bush. They get warnings all the time, although I believe that this one, being direct and from known terrorists should have prompted more of a response.

What I do hate is the way they keep calling Al Quaeda a global terror network, when there's no evidence whatsoever of this.
 
Innervision961 said:
I just wonder why none of the white house press core bring up these tough questions....

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/279556p-239417c.html

oh yeah thats right... I forgot about that....

http://news.com.com/House+approves+...98.html?part=rss&tag=5568415&subj=news.1028.5
This bothers me however

Yeah, I remember reading about that. Freaky. Im sure they knew who this Gannon guy was. All those questions were planned and Bush knew about it. This Administration is a FAKE!!!
 
satch919 said:
Yeah, I remember reading about that. Freaky. Im sure they knew who this Gannon guy was. All those questions were planned and Bush knew about it. This Administration is a FAKE!!!
Combine that with Amstrong Williams and another guy that was paid to promote a program (I need to look up his name) and you have a serious scandal here. I expect the media to make a huge deal out of this soon; it will all blow up in this administration's face soon.
 
No Limit said:
Combine that with Amstrong Williams and another guy that was paid to promote a program (I need to look up his name) and you have a serious scandal here. I expect the media to make a huge deal out of this soon; it will all blow up in this administration's face soon.

I keep expecting the media to get this story going but so far.......nothing. These people need to be exposed for what they are. LIARS!!!!
 
people dont want to disturb the status quo, because they think its politically incorrect to ask some tough questions, especially ones that cover sensitive material.. but i agree, why havnt they been layed down. They should be.

also the media, who ask and broadcast the questions and answers in the first place are not independant of the government, which doesnt help.
 
No the president did not fail to do his job, becuase the bush administration WAS BEHIND the 911 attacks.

Look at the pentagon for instance, there is NO camera footage of a plane hitting it, and on the secrutiy camera, the frames of when the plane supposedly crashed have been removed, but we can still see there is no evidence of a plane.

Ask any experienced pilot at the speeds a plane travels at hitting the pentagon would be almost impossible, hell, try it on microsoft flight sim, and you will see.

A comparrison could be made between 911, and the reichstag, in nazi germany the nazis Burnt down the reichzstag (their parlement) and blamed it on communists. They used people fear of communists(just as we are told to fear terrorists) and used it to pass bills which heavilly cut down on peoples rights (just as the patriot act has).

Did you no there was a terrorism training excersise on 9-11? Norad was ordered to stand down when the planes flew by, becuase everyone thought (well so they say) it was drill.

And on the video footage we can see what appear to be explosions going off just before the plan hits the tower. The building was desighned to withstand an aitcrat attack, so why didnt it, becuase IMO there were charges set to detonate.

If anyone knows anyone in the demolition buissness ask them about how the toweres flew down into themselves, much like what happeneds when a contracter would imploded a building using charges set inside.


Solaris
 
so many people actually believe that same thing, but the powers that be wont ever allow themselves to be caught , even if its true, simply because they run the world, and we get a limited choice yes no vote every so often. but what can you do,,as suspicious as it all is, if it were true, the only way you could rattle them, and answer some sensitive questions is to get on the inside. More importantly, if it is true, we arnt learning from mistakes.. and it would show some important people value power gain through material goods, and their own person, more than the general population itself. but that would be unheard of! right.
 
solaris152000 said:
No the president did not fail to do his job, becuase the bush administration WAS BEHIND the 911 attacks.

Look at the pentagon for instance, there is NO camera footage of a plane hitting it, and on the secrutiy camera, the frames of when the plane supposedly crashed have been removed, but we can still see there is no evidence of a plane.

Ask any experienced pilot at the speeds a plane travels at hitting the pentagon would be almost impossible, hell, try it on microsoft flight sim, and you will see.

A comparrison could be made between 911, and the reichstag, in nazi germany the nazis Burnt down the reichzstag (their parlement) and blamed it on communists. They used people fear of communists(just as we are told to fear terrorists) and used it to pass bills which heavilly cut down on peoples rights (just as the patriot act has).

Did you no there was a terrorism training excersise on 9-11? Norad was ordered to stand down when the planes flew by, becuase everyone thought (well so they say) it was drill.

And on the video footage we can see what appear to be explosions going off just before the plan hits the tower. The building was desighned to withstand an aitcrat attack, so why didnt it, becuase IMO there were charges set to detonate.

If anyone knows anyone in the demolition buissness ask them about how the toweres flew down into themselves, much like what happeneds when a contracter would imploded a building using charges set inside.


Solaris
If the government was capable of orchestrating attacks like that then doesn't it seem obvious that they would have done a better job at making sure no one suspected anything? If they were willing to do that then why would they even allow people like you to report these "beliefs" on the internet? Conspiracy theories like these are really nothing more than theories, every major historical event such as the 9/11 attacks could easily be found to have been part of a mass conspiracy if you look hard enough and interperet the "evidence" in the right way.
 
Mullinator, lets say, 'if its true', the people who would of orchastrated it where hoping their power would keep question away, the ploy may of worked on people in the past who in majority where more controllable and drone like because of better social stability., but more people seem to question our society today are more intuitive . and fairly suspect foul play. theres nothing wrong with suspecting a bit of bad game, infact if we cant investigate properly using external powers, then what assurity do we have that it wasnt all a ruse to start a chain of events in the first place.

the biggest oddity is the total lack of air defense , when 8 minutes is the response time, nearly 2 hours went by, when planes where tracked off course. its like NORAD was told to stand down. the precision flying of massive airliners. , a ground camera around the pentagon that captured shots of something that doesnt resemble a commercial aircraft watsoever. so many questions still unanswered, .. my mind says, impossible, but my intuition says, questions need to be asked.. its simply not good enough, to say, 'they where at fault'.
 
clarky003 said:
Mullinator, lets say, 'if its true', the people who would of orchastrated it where hoping their power would keep question away, the ploy may of worked on people in the past who in majority where more controllable and drone like because of better social stability., but more people seem to question our society today are more intuitive . and fairly suspect foul play. theres nothing wrong with suspecting a bit of bad game, infact if we cant investigate properly using external powers, then what assurity do we have that it wasnt all a ruse to start a chain of events in the first place.
If they really had the resources and the will to do it then I don't see why they wouldn't have had another terrorist attack happen by now. You could just imagine the support the government would get if another "unexpected" attack were to occur and if it was done in such a way so that blame would be nearly impossible to place.

There is nothing wrong with being suspicious, but at least consider the most likely scenerios and decide which is the truth based on that. Not just on your personal distrust of the government.
 
i totally agree, you have to address the situation with the undestanding of the missing answers, but not let yourself get carried away with 'conspiracey'. i actually cant believe the report congress came up with on 9/11, it floats around the important stuff and doesnt address the real questions that are on peoples mind. just for that, again suspicions aroused.

as for another attack, maybe its not needed, maybe killing people for no real justified reason falls short at an event that doesnt give intial impetus to a goal... maybe they have hearts afterall... if thats the case
 
There have been other terrorist attacks, the spanish ones maybe?

I belive that spain have a very leftwing government, im not sure though. Anyway, the spanish government is for civil rights and liberties.

Now, if we travel back to the 70's when America invaded Vietnam, to stop communism. Maybe they dont want left wing governments in place now either, so they bombed madrid to give political ammo to the right wing groups (like the riechstag agian), they could all say,Look at what these freedoms have cost us, we must pass le patrioto acto (well something like that) to stop terrism.

Im not sayings thats what happened but its an intresting hypothesis none the less.
 
solaris152000 said:
No the president did not fail to do his job, becuase the bush administration WAS BEHIND the 911 attacks.

Look at the pentagon for instance, there is NO camera footage of a plane hitting it, and on the secrutiy camera, the frames of when the plane supposedly crashed have been removed, but we can still see there is no evidence of a plane.

Ask any experienced pilot at the speeds a plane travels at hitting the pentagon would be almost impossible, hell, try it on microsoft flight sim, and you will see.

A comparrison could be made between 911, and the reichstag, in nazi germany the nazis Burnt down the reichzstag (their parlement) and blamed it on communists. They used people fear of communists(just as we are told to fear terrorists) and used it to pass bills which heavilly cut down on peoples rights (just as the patriot act has).

Did you no there was a terrorism training excersise on 9-11? Norad was ordered to stand down when the planes flew by, becuase everyone thought (well so they say) it was drill.

And on the video footage we can see what appear to be explosions going off just before the plan hits the tower. The building was desighned to withstand an aitcrat attack, so why didnt it, becuase IMO there were charges set to detonate.

If anyone knows anyone in the demolition buissness ask them about how the toweres flew down into themselves, much like what happeneds when a contracter would imploded a building using charges set inside.


Solaris
You have no idea what you're talking about. Please shush, koolaid person.
 
It is a good friend, that a lot of people dont have as you can see in this thread.

At least I got it a few google hits from all of those people trying to figure out what it is. :p
 
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