what are ROMS?

john121

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I've heard about ROMs and emulators alot lately, what are they and where can I download them?
 
Shens said:
And we know the chances of that... ;)

Yo, I've got a copy of Crono Trigger! Sure.....it's sitting at the bottom of a closet at my parent's house in Nebraska. But I own that sucka!

*goes back to SNES emulator*
 
Rom
Rom is like Cd-Rom except..it isn't a Cd.....
Anyway Roms are what the N64 uses, NES, etc...
Now the Pc term Rom is something that is illegal to download except if you have the game else you must delete it within 24 hours. In other words if the cops get pist off cuz of roms and come knocking on your door, take your computer..you better be read to hand over the real copy of the game to prove you have it.

Though...game companies really care less when it comes to....older games..
 
DarkStar said:
Not if you own the original game brotha-man.


Apparently that isn't true... because it still isn't using your copy. Also the 24 hour rule is fake too. Sadly, there isn't much companies can do about it.
 
The word ROM is what they call the computer chips that older arcade and console games stored their software on, equivalent to a hard drive, CD, whatever (only much smaller and not rewriteable). Slot machines still use ROMs for the most part - only a handful of the newer ones have moved to more modern media. An emulator is a software program that will play the old game software found on the ROMs. When you play the game in an emulator, it'll be the exact same game as was in the console/arcade - bugs and all.
 
It's not illegal if the licence has expired for the game.
ROMNation.net has all legal ROMs.
 
The emulator is what plays the ROM, the ROM is the game. Some of the best emulators (Nintendo):
NES - NESticle
SNES - ZSNES
N64 - Project 64

And there plenty of legal ROMS around, I've played a few SNES roms made by people (not Nintendo). Granted, they were crap, but they were still public domain/legal.
 
Just felt like pointing out, ROM stands for Read Only Memory.
 
Here I am going to tell you a really big story on Read Only Memory.

Ah well.
 
Talking about legality is a bit pointless when a lot of ROM's are for games you can't even buy any more except in mysterious shops that appear and disappear overnight.
 
Shouldn't alot of ROMs be abandonware or whatever? Those -are- legal to download.
 
ummm... all i asked was what they were and where i could find them.. i didn't want a bunch of talk about "legal or illegal".. what about MP3s? where can i find those? will i be getting a full 56 page report on what is legal and illegal about MP3s now?
 
Roms are images or copies of the Read Only Memory chips that are present on the cartridges of consoles and arcade machines. The chips are usually removed from the board they are attached to and then run through the appropriate hardware to create the image on PC. Emulators, which mimic the console in a PC environment, can then be used to run these images, although not always flawlessly.

The process of obtaining these ROM's is illegal as it requires reverse engineering, which is against the licence agreement. Owning a cartridge and then downloading a Rom is also illegal as the Rom does not represent a backup of your copy, but that of someone elses. As you can see this is a catch 22 situation, making it impossible to make a legal backup of a cartridge.

Companies tend to keep their intellectual property under license for a long time on the off chance that there could still be some money in them. A prime example of this is Nintendo, who are planning to release their entire back catalogue over their new console. You can bet they will be selling these games off and therefore would take a dim view on anyone distributing games that they intend to be making money from.

As for where to find Roms: We wouldn't tell you where to download a copy of Half Life 2 or any other PC game, so why do you expect us to tell you where to get the equivelent for consoles?

I swear warez kiddies get dumber and dumber. It's not like this stuff is hard to find.
 
The process of obtaining these ROM's is illegal as it requires reverse engineering, which is against the licence agreement. Owning a cartridge and then downloading a Rom is also illegal as the Rom does not represent a backup of your copy, but that of someone elses. As you can see this is a catch 22 situation, making it impossible to make a legal backup of a cartridge.
Or Bill Clinton just passed a law that says if you download a Rom from the internet you must delete it in 24 hours if you do not posses the actual game......
They arn't making backups... It is legal to download a Rom(U.S.) because of a law that was passed while Bill Clinton was president.
 
go to netsplit.de, and type 'roms' in the IRC channel search part of that website. that's all the help i'll give you. :p
 
Good lord Mineral, what don't you understand about the paragraph you quoted?

The very first step to getting a rom is to create one, this is illegal. It doesn't then suddenly become legal just because you downloaded it in America.

If you're gonna download roms, fine, whatever. Just make sure you know where you stand in regards to the law. The only 100% legal rom is one that has no copyrights on it or that has been released to the public by the copyright holder.

Here is an interesting read if you are truely interested in roms and emulation. Of Particular note:

Can I Download a Nintendo ROM from the Internet if I Already Own the Authentic Game?

There is a good deal of misinformation on the Internet regarding the backup/archival copy exception. It is not a "second copy" rule and is often mistakenly cited for the proposition that if you have one lawful copy of a copyrighted work, you are entitled to have a second copy of the copyrighted work even if that second copy is an infringing copy. The backup/archival copy exception is a very narrow limitation relating to a copy being made by the rightful owner of an authentic game to ensure he or she has one in the event of damage or destruction of the authentic. Therefore, whether you have an authentic game or not, or whether you have possession of a Nintendo ROM for a limited amount of time, i.e. 24 hours, it is illegal to download and play a Nintendo ROM from the Internet.
 
YEs, this is a very interesting read... it also came from Nintendo... I like to hear two sides to every debate and/or discussion as well.
 
john121 said:
ummm... all i asked was what they were and where i could find them.. i didn't want a bunch of talk about "legal or illegal".. what about MP3s? where can i find those? will i be getting a full 56 page report on what is legal and illegal about MP3s now?

Haha.

New to the internet young one?
 
i suppose "xune" and "minerel" are lawyers, LOL.. sound like a few i know.
 
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