What is needed to make Republicans stop liking Bush?

[No Limit]

After the following fail to dent Bush's Christ-like status with Republicans,

1. Bush lied to start a war that has killed nearly 2,000 American soldiers and scores of innocent Iraqis, bankrupted our economy, and has kick-started an era of Islamic terrorism that will claim countless more lives.

2. Bush's Brain leaked a CIA operative's identity to toady reporters to score a political hit against her husband for criticizing Der Leader's case for war.

3. Bush employs people from the energy industry who paid the most for his political campaigns to edit environmental reports in their favor, endangering our health and future.

4. Bush has released tons of domestic covert propaganda on Americans in the form of fake news, bribed pundits, and fake town hall meetings, and paid for with our tax money.

5. Bush has accelerated the widening gap between the super-rich and the rest of us with massive giveaways to the rich in times of record debt, recession, and war.

So, what do we need to do to convince Republicans that Bush is not Jesus Christ? I mean honestly, can any of you Republicans tell me what it would take for you to lose your confidance in Bush? Do you not understand his actions will hurt you in 06 and 08?

 

[CptStern]

blahblahblahblah I cant hear you cuz I have my fingers in my ears and I'm babbling loudly blahblahblah

disclaimer: may or not be true, republicans may or may not truely believe bush is a liar liar pants on fire: cheney and rummy too

 

[No Limit]

disclaimer: may or not be true, republicans may or may not truely believe bush is a liar liar pants on fire: cheney and rummy too

Well, yesterday I posted video showing direct lies from Bush and Cheney and didn't get a single republican in there. So I think this is about correct:

blahblahblahblah I cant hear you cuz I have my fingers in my ears and I'm babbling loudly blahblahblah

 

[CptStern]

Well, yesterday I posted video showing direct lies from Bush and Cheney and didn't get a single republican in there. So I think this is about correct:

ya I was going to post this pic in that thread but I thought it might be too hard a concept to grasp for some of them

 

[Lemonking]

all we can do is wait and hope nothing bad happens anymore...to bad we noticed to late that Bush is really dumb and greedy

 

[Tr0n]

liek omg republicans suck lolololol

 

[Icarusintel]

Well, yesterday I posted video showing direct lies from Bush and Cheney and didn't get a single republican in there. So I think this is about correct:

well, i'd have been in there, but your thread was posted while i was at work (like i am now) and i dunno if video is really tolerated, and i'd rather not push it
on topic, he isn't jc, but he is the President of the United States and he was voted in by a majority, if he gets impeached, so be it, but for right now, he's our leader, and while i may not agree with everything he has to say or does, its a simple fact, one i think many people are still having a hard time trying to grasp:upstare:
i voted for him, and i'm still glad i voted for him, because i'm glad he is in office rather than kerry, and honestly, if he gets kicked out of office, cheney takes over, so take your pick

 

[Lemonking]

its sad that a nation is divided only becuz of political views

 

[CptStern]

hmmm a lying drunk or the devil's cabana boy ...hmmm tough choice

 

[Raziaar]

Why would you care to make us stop liking bush?

Liking or not liking a man has nothing to do with his politics. If I liked or didn't like a person based on their politics, i'd hate many people here. I don't.

 

[Tr0n]

its sad that a nation is divided only becuz of political views

Yea it is.

That civil war john titor was talking about doesn't sound so stupid now...

 

[Raziaar]

Yea it is.

That civil war john titor was talking about doesn't sound so stupid now...

Only morons would start a civil war based on something like this.

 

[Tr0n]

Like how the revoultionary war was started just because of a little taxes?

All wars are started by small things that "morons" started.Hell we're already losing our liberty day by day...I guess bliink was right about how most democracy's only last around 200/300 years.

 

[Foxtrot]

Like how the revoultionary war was started just because of a little taxes?

All wars are started by small things that "morons" started.Hell we're already losing our liberty day by day...I guess bliink was right about how most democracy's only last around 200/300 years.

Most...do most governments last more than 300 years?

 

[Raziaar]

Like how the revoultionary war was started just because of a little taxes?

Did I say it wasn't started by moronic reasons? :-P

 

[Tr0n]

Most...do most governments last more than 300 years?

Some.

I think the roman empire lasted over 300, but it went through many types of goverment systems.Like dictorships/republic and so on.

America will last..but the goverment will change from time to time in my opinion.

Did I say it wasn't started by moronic reasons? :-P

Nope..I was just stating a fact.

 

[No Limit]

liek omg republicans suck lolololol

tanslation = I have nothing to add to this thread except to point out how bad No Limit because he states facts that aren't nice to the republicans.

well, i'd have been in there, but your thread was posted while i was at work (like i am now) and i dunno if video is really tolerated, and i'd rather not push it
on topic, he isn't jc, but he is the President of the United States and he was voted in by a majority, if he gets impeached, so be it, but for right now, he's our leader, and while i may not agree with everything he has to say or does, its a simple fact, one i think many people are still having a hard time trying to grasp:upstare:
i voted for him, and i'm still glad i voted for him, because i'm glad he is in office rather than kerry, and honestly, if he gets kicked out of office, cheney takes over, so take your pick

But to say he is our leader so just shut up until the next election is not how democracy works. If we did that the white house could do anything they wanted; Republican or Democrat controlled. The fact is I have to keep hammering in your head that you voting for Bush in 04 was not a good idea (you just said it was) or you will again make a mistake in 08 and 06 (if you vote in midterm elections). And you have every right to counter my arguments with your own as to why you think it was a good idea. Democracy in action, you gotta love it.

 

[Olympus]

I think it will take a little bit more than extreme left wing talking points to convice republicans of anything. For example, take a look at michael moore and other left wing extremeists, all of their blathering serves only to strengthen Republican's resolve, at least in theory, anyways.

 

[No Limit]

Why would you care to make us stop liking bush?

Liking or not liking a man has nothing to do with his politics. If I liked or didn't like a person based on their politics, i'd hate many people here. I don't.

Well, I think you know what I meant. I was talking about his politics; however, if I had a family member that died in Iraq because of Bush you can bet it would turn in to personal hatred for him as many people have done.

 

[No Limit]

I think it will take a little bit more than extreme left wing talking points to convice republicans of anything. For example, take a look at michael moore and other left wing extremeists, all of their blathering serves only to strengthen Republican's resolve, at least in theory, anyways.

What's extremely left about what I posted?

 

[Tr0n]

tanslation = I have nothing to add to this thread except to point out how bad No Limit because he states facts that aren't nice to the republicans.

No you ain't bad for stating those facts...which are true.I just said that, because I wanted to spam the thread just once.You already know I'm a centrist and agree with some things both sides. (Even tho you rights and lefties suck ass.)

<3

 

[No Limit]

No you ain't bad for stating those facts...which are true.I just said that, because I wanted to spam the thread just once.You already know I'm a centrist and agree with both sides.

<3

Okay, no problem. Not sure how you can agree with both sides but I'll leave that up to you :E.

 

[Tr0n]

I edited. "On some things."

I don't agree with everything on both sides.

 

[Raziaar]

I agree with many things from both sides too.

For instance... I seriously dislike firearms and am all for civil rights... but while at the same time, I hate drugs, am vehemently against them.

But I consider myself republican.

 

[Olympus]

What's extremely left about what I posted?

Well, to begin with, judging from the content of your other threads it seems like you paste almost every talking point straight from democraticunderground.com

As for this thread, however, points 1,2, and 5 are about as left wing as they can get.

1: Bush lied. So where are the charges against him and why did congress overwhelmigly vote along with his decision? If Bush deliberatly fixed intel, whatever then why is it 600+ congressman couldn't see through his scheme? That leaves a lot to be said about congress and they get no animosity directed towards them whatsoever about the Iraq war. What is worse: Bush lied or Congress believed him? I am inclined to think the latter is worse, but that is just me.

As for the economy, the unemployment rate is 5%. Compare that to Germany's 11% unemployment rate. The economy might be heading down the wrong path as it is but it is most definatly not bankrupt or imploding as we speak, as your words imply.

The whole anti-war message seems like something straight from Micheal Moore's playbook. I don't think any sane person can dispute MM is an ultra leftist and that any extremist, right or left, is bad for the country as a whole. Just my opinon, but when not only the people the US is fighting against, left wing hardliners, and communists have the same general goals (get the US out of Iraq), I have a hard time swallowing the idea that republicans are going to start agreeing with democrats.

2. There are a lot of unanswered questions here and it is not the public's place to be judge, jury and execution for Rove. Despite his sleazyness he deserves rights afforded to him by the constitution. This whole crusade to burn Rove stinks of left wing scare tactics. For example, Rove's whole message to Cooper was a warning not to proceed on the Wilson story, at least that is my interpritation; he never mentioned Plame's name. Even if he did Wilson published Plame's name on his web biography, so it is not like it was some big secret who his wife was. Any laymen armed with google could figure out who his wife was at the time.

5. I can pull up sources straight from Greenspan's mouth that say Bush's tax cuts got the US out of the '01 recession.

Point 3 I am not sure about and point 4 is the spot on unadulterated truth, not much arguing can be done there on my part.

 

[Lemonking]

rome lasted a 1000 years

 

[Foxtrot]

rome lasted a 1000 years

And went through many governments and religions.

 

[DEATH eVADER]

...to bad we noticed to late that Bush is really dumb and greedy

Next time, take advice from the British, we spotted that hooligan when he was trying to become president

 

[Lemonking]

And went through many governments and religions.

time to make the US a muslim country !
:x

 

[MjM]

A devil on his shoulder ...

 

[Edgar]

I am a Republican, but in no way I belive Bush to be the Christ-level, hell I would care less for Bush. He is not my concern.

 

[OCybrManO]

Why do people try to express indifference by saying "I could care less" (or this new one "I would care less"... which makes no sense whatsoever)? Almost everyone uses it incorrectly. Most people seem to think it means that they don't care about something at all. In fact, it's really saying you do care about it... at least somewhat. If you could care less, why don't you? What is keeping you from caring less? It hints that there is something worth caring about. If you care at all for something you could, obviously, care less... but to be able to care less you have to actually care in the first place.

The way you say you have no feelings about something is "I couldn't care less." It means you care so little that it isn't even possible to care any less. Does that make sense?

I hate to be a grammar Nazi... but that gets incredibly annoying, mostly because of the frequency at which it is improperly used.

 

[Foxtrot]

Why do people try to express indifference by saying "I could care less" (or this new one "I would care less"... which makes no sense whatsoever)? Almost everyone uses it incorrectly. Most people seem to think it means that they don't care about something at all. In fact, it's really saying you do care about it... at least somewhat. If you could care less, why don't you? What is keeping you from caring less? It hints that there is something worth caring about. If you care at all for something you could, obviously, care less... but to be able to care less you have to actually care in the first place.

The way you say you have no feelings about something is "I couldn't care less." It means you care so little that it isn't even possible to care any less. Does that make sense?

I hate to be a grammar Nazi... but that gets incredibly annoying, mostly because of the frequency at which it is improperly used.

I thought there was already a thread about this, and everyone used couldn't....

 

[OCybrManO]

There are nearly twice as many results for the incorrect version on Google... and, from my experience, that seems about right.

 

[Foxtrot]

There are nearly twice as many results for the incorrect version on Google... and, from my experience, that seems about right.

Twice, that is better than 5 years ago where it would be 100 times.

 

[Hapless]

Oh, boy...

After the following fail to dent Bush's Christ-like status with Republicans,

1. Bush lied to start a war that has killed nearly 2,000 American soldiers and scores of innocent Iraqis, bankrupted our economy, and has kick-started an era of Islamic terrorism that will claim countless more lives.

Say there, friend, can you point out exactly where Bush lied? The uranium quote? Hmmmm...let's look at what the Butler Review says...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butler_Review#Conclusions_of_the_Review

the report states (6.4 para. 503): “The British government had intelligence from several different sources indicating that this visit was for the purpose of acquiring uranium. Since uranium constitutes almost three-quarters of Niger's exports, the intelligence was credible.”

Anything else? Relying on intelligence which is never 100% is not lying. But hype away...

Our economy is bankrupt?
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000006&sid=aoh3OCkhi548&refer=home

The U.S. economy remains the strongest of all major industrialized nations.

Kickstarted an era of Islamic Terrorism?
http://library.thinkquest.org/CR0212088/tertime.htm

So all the incidents listed here dating back to 1979 were nothing? Or are you saying this is a different era of terrorism? I thought you guys said it was all hokum and scare-tactics anyway.

2. Bush's Brain leaked a CIA operative's identity to toady reporters to score a political hit against her husband for criticizing Der Leader's case for war.

Valerie Plame had not been a CIA "covert operative" for 9 years. At this point, we only know that Rove hinted to the reporter that Wilson's wife may have gotten him the job, and what has NOT been said is that Rove leaked her name. I think it would be wise to withhold judgment until all the facts are out there, after all, it wouldn't do to make allegations based on faulty intelligence, now would it?

3. Bush employs people from the energy industry who paid the most for his political campaigns to edit environmental reports in their favor, endangering our health and future.

Blah, blah, blah, and Bush invaded Afghanistan to make way for the UNOCAL pipeline too. Next.

4. Bush has released tons of domestic covert propaganda on Americans in the form of fake news, bribed pundits, and fake town hall meetings, and paid for with our tax money.

What the hell are you babbling about?

5. Bush has accelerated the widening gap between the super-rich and the rest of us with massive giveaways to the rich in times of record debt, recession, and war.

Massive giveaways to the rich, huh? Are you aware that the top 20% of people in this country pay 80% of taxes. And that the top 50% pay over 96% of all taxes? That's a pretty massive redistribution of wealth, I think. Of course, to you it's not enough. Those rich people should be punished for being rich. How dare they make money. Evil bastards.

So, what do we need to do to convince Republicans that Bush is not Jesus Christ? I mean honestly, can any of you Republicans tell me what it would take for you to lose your confidance in Bush? Do you not understand his actions will hurt you in 06 and 08?

I don't think I've ever heard any Republican on this forum or elsewhere refer to GWB as the Messiah. I'll lose confidence in him if he starts sounding like Hillary Clinton or John Kerry. And as far as his actions hurting, "us" in 06 and 08, isn't that what you fools were saying back in 04?

 

[seinfeldrules]

Well, to begin with, judging from the content of your other threads it seems like you paste almost every talking point straight from democraticunderground.com

SHUSH, ONLY RIGHT WINGERS POST TALKING POINTS. THEY ARE ALL OREILLY CLONES, WE ALL THINK FOR OURSELVES.

 

[gh0st]

What is needed to make No Limit stop talking? You cling to your desperate ideals that mommy has instilled in you; do you never change your mind? With the grace of a drunk eating his own vomit, you post again, and again, constantly trying the "right wingers", constantly trying to get us into a fight, and every time you are wiped out utterly. I don't know why you try anymore. Everything you posted in this thread is so completely bogus, so completely wrong, that is is utterly obvious it could only come from one vacuous abyss: No Limits brain. Most frightening of all is your notion that our economy is in shambles... on what do you base this idiotic assertion? The socialist weekly? I mean... ughh it just makes me want to bash my head into the wall. That sounds like a play straight out of John Kerry's book. "Ohh we dont have enough jobs". When our unemployment goes down 2 percent "Ohh we dont have enough GOOD jobs". "Oohh bitch bitch, I get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars a year for making ketchup". It never ends with you people does it? If there is something to bitch about, the democrats will find it.

One quote here deserves a bump

I think it would be wise to withhold judgment until all the facts are out there, after all, it wouldn't do to make allegations based on faulty intelligence, now would it?

Hilarious.

 

[Glirk Dient]

From the looks of it No Limit must think america is doing the worst in the world. If everything no limit has said were true no one would have a job, money, and we would all be living in the streets while terrorists bomb us to pieces.

 

[Sulkdodds]

I know a lot of 'right wingers' who dislike Bush.
And though I haven't seen any concrete evidence, I've heard a lot more about Bush lying, scheming and fixing facts than I have about him being a great guy. The impression (and only an impression) I get is that Bush has been allowing corporations to run rampant with the polution and such. He certainly didn't seem very interested in participating in the G8 summit.

Basically, I'm hearing more bad things (Bush being a liar and possibly the Antichrist) than good.

For instance... I seriously dislike firearms and am all for civil rights... but while at the same time, I hate drugs, am vehemently against them.

Me too. Except possibly cannibis, which is not so bad, but it shouldn't be legalised.