What is the obssesion with this image?

[Kristafon]

I have seen it-
In counter strike
On a DVD cover for ricky gervais
On tshirts
On a poster
On someones avatar on this forum

Where has it come from? It keeps haunting me!

 

[The Dark Elf]

You need to learn your history there

 

[kingthebadger]

its related to terminator 3

 

[<RJMC>]

wow if you dont whi is he you should take history class

 

[Ennui]

its related to terminator 3

I hope to god you're kidding.

It's Che Guevara, a marxist revolutionary from the sixties. He's sort of the poster boy for rising against the oppressors for the people.

Go see "The Motorcycle Diaries"

 

[ComradeBadger]

He's also on my phone :O

 

[SupremePain]

yep, if you wear a t-shirt with him it means your cool.....

 

[ComradeBadger]

I just love propraganda imagery.

And Che is cool.

 

[Your Brother]

Now, where have I seen that picture?

 

[solid snail]

Che Guevara is cool and if you cant accept that go hang your self (not literaly you understand)

 

[Kangy]

I have a t-shirt with Che on.

Kinda.

It's actually a Gorilla Che! With "Go Ape" on it. Believe me, I love it long time.

 

[Dan]

Yeah Che is the epitomy of "cool rebel" although I doubt he'd appreciate having his face plastered on T-shirts and pencil cases. Lucky for us the CIA killed him years ago so we are free to put his face wherever we want.

 

[ailevation]

:O How did the CIA kill him? Same thing they did to Bob Marley? Or they shot him for a reason?

 

[TaiFong]

Che was highly egotistical, best friends with Fidel Castro, and personally executed many people (and ABSOULTELY LOVED doing it). He was killed by militants of a country that I cannot recall, not the CIA.

EDIT: He was captured by the Bolivian Army and ordered to be executed by Bolivian President René Barrientos

 

[Dan]

He was exporting communism to Bolivia and he got caught. He wasn't directly killed by a CIA agent though. It was CIA trained Bolivian soldiers. Essentially the CIA was running the show there, and I'm pretty sure they were present at his execution.

 

[TaiFong]

He was exporting communism to Bolivia and he got caught. He wasn't directly killed by a CIA agent though. It was CIA trained Bolivian soldiers. Essentially the CIA was running the show there, and I'm pretty sure they were present at his execution.

The U.S. Army actually trained the Bolivians.

Anyway, Che was a Communist and I find it hilarious how he has made his way into American pop culture. Everyone praises him for leading a revolution, but that revolution is why Fidel Castro is in power today.

 

[alehm]

He executed people therefore he is sooooo cool! OMG I just ordered 20 shirts.

 

[Dan]

I still don't get how Communism has become some sort of dirty word in America, 20 years after the Cold War. The fact is that it's a lot better than what Cuba had under Batista. He was basically a corrupt thug that supported the Mafia. The U.S. loved him because he allowed American companies to control large portions of Cuba as they had done all throughout the Latin Americas. Ever hear about United Fruit?

 

[The Monkey]

The U.S. Army actually trained the Bolivians.

Anyway, Che was a Communist and I find it hilarious how he has made his way into American pop culture. Everyone praises him for leading a revolution, but that revolution is why Fidel Castro is in power today.

And what's wrong with uncle Fidel?

 

[IchI]

You need to learn your history there

tbh its got nothing to do with hostory. People just think its kewl and pritty much don't have a clue at all. I don't know my history my self, but people seem to just focus on the fact that he rebeled and not the fact that loads of people died. He was also involved in a log of drugs and crime. If I am wrong I will stand corrected though.

 

[Dan]

If you ever travel to Cuba, the people treat Che like a hero. He's like Jesus there. In fact, the Church once tried to copy his face to make Jesus more popular. It's kind of sad. http://www.rejesus.co.uk/expressions/faces_jesus/facesj_media/b_che.gif

 

[TaiFong]

I still don't get how Communism has become some sort of dirty word in America, 20 years after the Cold War. The fact is that it's a lot better than what Cuba had under Batista. He was basically a corrupt thug that supported the Mafia. The U.S. loved him because he allowed American companies to control large portions of Cuba as they had done all throughout the Latin Americas. Ever hear about United Fruit?

Communism, on paper, looks good. But in reality it is never done right. There have always been corrupt government leaders behind the system.

 

[The Monkey]

Communism, on paper, looks good. But in reality it is never done right. There have always been corrupt government leaders behind the system.

At the time of this post, there hasn't been a single real communist state.

 

[Dan]

Either way, Cuba wasn't actually a Communist country until the U.S. forced it to get help from Russia by cutting off trade. It wasn't until about 2 and a half years after the revolution that Cuba was declared Communist. That was after the U.S. started bombing Cuban airfields and was preparing to land CIA-trained exiles at the Bay of Pigs. I'd say that would be a good time as any to start hanging your hat with the Ruskies.

BTW, the only reason I'm posting so much on this is that Cuban history is one of the history subjects that I know a fair bit about. Also feel free to discuss Russian history up to the Bolshevic Revolution or French history from 1789 to the 20th century.

 

[SupremePain]

Che was highly egotistical, best friends with Fidel Castro, and personally executed many people (and ABSOULTELY LOVED doing it). He was killed by militants of a country that I cannot recall, not the CIA.

EDIT: He was captured by the Bolivian Army and ordered to be executed by Bolivian President René Barrientos

or............. maybe that was all a cover up. Made up by the CIA because he was threatning the sales of sock-puppets?

 

[Gray Fox]

Che was highly egotistical, best friends with Fidel Castro, and personally executed many people (and ABSOULTELY LOVED doing it). He was killed by militants of a country that I cannot recall, not the CIA.

EDIT: He was captured by the Bolivian Army and ordered to be executed by Bolivian President René Barrientos

Hey tell me do you also believe that Carl Marx was a wifebeater and a stanworshipper, and that it's communism vs democracy, and is senator McCarthy your democratic idol, do you wear his face on your shirt :E

 

[ComradeBadger]

Half of it is the iconic image itself.

It's powerful. You can't deny that.

Oh, and Communism doesn't work, it's based on 19th Century principles

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

I have a picture of him on my wall...but its more to do with the look of it (Spray paint stencils. White and black face, slightly green top and a red background) rather than the fact I particually felt for his cause.

 

[DarkStar]

Che would be spinning in his grave if he knew how his image has been intensely commercialized.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

Che would be spinning in his grave if he knew how his image has been intensely commercialized.

That would be an interesting trick...I wouldn't be surprised if someone made money out of that as well :O

 

[vetebulle]

I have to admit the image is very stylish, not to mention powerful. It says alot. Can't really say I agree with what it wants to say though - idolizing killers is not exactly my cup of tea. My aunt used to be married to this cuban artist and she went there a couple of times and she brought back a lot of stuff, original stuff, from the revolution. Old posters. For example, Castro's original posters are green, not red.

I kinda like those CCCP-skirts. Not because of Soviet Russia but because of their national hockey team. I'd never wear them in public though... if you ask me you could just as well rubbing a swastika in everybody's faces.

But dang, not knowing who Che Guevara is? Where'd you go to school?

 

[Dan]

well I'd say he was a better role model than those that he was fighting. Namely, the CIA and the Mafia. If you don't think the CIA are killers read up on the number of assassination attempts against Castro. There's atleast a dozen or more documented (proven) attempts. Castro claims it's a lot more than that. Some of them are pretty crazy, like giving him LSD while on the radio, putting fungus in his diving suit.

 

[Warbie]

I used to have a RATM t-shirt with Che on as a teenager ... then I grew up.

"F**k you, no I won't do my homework"!!

 

[nick_t]

I don't think many people who sport that image care who Che is. They just like the grungy look. His face seems also very noble and powerful so it just looks cool.

 

[CptStern]

man some of you guys have some crazy ideas as to who Che was. mass murderer? hardly, revolutionary yes. He's more robin hood than joseph stalin

here's some facts

 

[Mujuro]

He was an Argentine revolutionary leader who was Fidel Castro's chief lieutenant in the Cuban revolution; active in other Latin American countries; was captured and executed by the Bolivian army (1928-1967) though the United States wanted him alive.

 

[Revisedsoul]

ive got a shirt of him, but because i belive in what he stood for. reguardless of what he did, he fought through think and thin to protect what he belived in and what he thought was best for his people no matter the cost.

also he wanst exicuted, he was murdered by the cia, exicution involves a trial which he was suposed to goto, even though the verdict was already guilty. but a cia agent killed him by shooting him whele he was tied up. His supoive words were, "i am but one man"

 

[<RJMC>]

I remenber some years ago I hav a T-shirt of Che
but it wanst that picture it was another one but was the Che

 

[Gray Fox]

As far as I know the CIA was activly involved in his death, i believe an agent named felix was wth him moments before his death, and even has in his ring the ashes of che's last cigar( more on che's capture, CIA and felix)
The reason I and many other respect him cause he wasn't a cold hearted bastard, but someone who truly believed in what he fought for, wanted to help pore people, and didn't use grusom tactics, but that is probably what got him killed, cause if you wan't to fight a succesfull guerilla warfare you need to use some terrible and disgusting tactics.

 

[GhostValkyrie]

In Soviet Cuba, shirt wears you!