Whats wrong with "The Core"??????

[soulslicer]

Seriously, why does everyone here think that movie is crap. I mean you can't say it is better than many other great movies out there, but this movie is not all that bad. What the hell was it that made you hate it, the improbable scientific theories? The acting? Or the special effects? Or just the atmosphere of it?

Seriously, I don't get it. :|

 

[lePobz]

It was entertaining the first time round, although it is plagued with inaccuracies, a very poor script, and quite a lot of cheese. The effects were pretty poor, too.

From the outset, the story is a bit poor, so inevitably it wasn't going to make for a great film, but I guess it's worthwhile to watch it once. Only once though... the second time its just painful.

 

[G-Dub]

I saw it in the cinema when it came out. Really liked it actually.

 

[pomegranate]

It annoyed me because the science is so poor (more fantasy than actual sci-fi, really) it's actually insulting to the knowledge of your average Joe.

 

[Atomic_Piggy]

Yeah, lets disregard science and use a nuke to somehow (we're working on how) to reactivate the planterary core, the size of mars. That'll work!

 

[Reginald]

It is unbearably boring. I'd rather stay on the surface and watch destruction reign supreme like the trailers promised.

 

[soulslicer]

It is unbearably boring. I'd rather stay on the surface and watch destruction reign supreme like the trailers promised.

what the heck..no it was not..

 

[Lucid]

It was a decent flick, when it's the only movie on TV I'd probably watch it again.

It was still pretty bad though, scientifically speaking.

 

[Deleted member 56031]

The science was horrible, absolutely horrible.

 

[Asknoone]

Can you tell me what was right with it?

 

[Absinthe]

Armageddon 2: This time underground!

Yes, let's take a ridiculous premise and make it even more inane, with bad acting and a paint-by-numbers plot. Oh, and let's throw in that creepy looking kid from Road Trip.

 

[The Monkey]

The first time I saw it it wasn't all bad. But when you look back at the terrible acting, poor script and ridiculous plot, you really realize how shitty it is.

 

[ríomhaire]

Inconsistencies abound, the science is retarded and film itself is just not entertaining.

 

[Bad^Hat]

Soul, you need to stop worrying so much about what other people think and just value your own opinions. Trust me, you'll feel better. And we'll feel better not having to hear about it.

As for input on the movie, I switched in on half-way through, gave it 5 minutes and I'd had enough. I would've given it another chance, but Armageddon clones are right up there on my no tolerance list, tied with mini series centering around natural disasters.

 

[Fliko]

The Core is good, just shut off your brain while you watch it, and you'll come out entertained.

 

[Omega11]

The Core. . . was utter crap. . .

It wasn't that good, not even the first time in =/.

Spoiler

1) The Earth's Core is not about to stop spinning, if it did (or could for that matter) we'd be screwed.
2) Since it stopped spinning, HOW THE HELL did we SOMEHOW have enough time, to build 'a spaceship to the core', let alone, the platform for it. The effects wold be much more immediate.
3) HOW THE HELL does some one invent a laser, AND a substance that is immune to it? Well, it IS Morgan Freeman ^^, beyond the point. Also, if it could penetrate that mound of rock clean through, would it not continue onwards? And seeing as light IS affected by gravity, would it not continue along the earth, until it eventually died out (if ever) and probably destroy a few more objects?
4) WTF with the Geode? It was a completely useless seen O_=.

 

[Ridge]

Yeah, it was immensely rediculous..what on earth makes you think you can put on a metallic silver suit and walk around in a cave made of hardened lava?

The only thing good about that movie was the Golden Gate scene with the guy on the cell phone...

I mean, the core cant just stop spinning...I mean, if you spin an egg on edge, and cause egg global warming, will the center just stop dead in its tracks? Not likely... More importantly, will sticking fireworks into the core cause it to spin again? Also impossible.

 

[ríomhaire]

Plot holes:

Spoiler

• The Earth's magnetic field goes crazy and the US government is somehow able to hide this from the general public despite the fact that all compasses in the world would stop working properly
• The sound-machine thingy someone turns into a laser half-way through the film
• The magic stuff that is the only thing that can survive the intense heat and pressure of the Earth's core doesn't cover the sound-mahcine/laser yet this equipment doesn't seem to get damaged at all on the journey
• One compartment of the ship is jetisened mid-way through the film but has grown back by the time they put a nuke in every compartment to kick-start the core (Which in itself is stupid and exicuted far too crudly to have worked, even if a few nukes could kick-start the Earth
• Some other things but I'm sick of talking about such a crap film

 

[Remus]

The Core is good, just shut off your brain while you watch it, and you'll come out entertained.

QFT LOL

It wasn' t great but, still entertaining. To those that said the FX were poor, well IMO they were decent, nothing extraordinary but good nonetheless.

 

[Dog--]

I think it's pretty good, if it's on, I'll watch it..

And to those who hate it because the science is bad.. wow.. give up on life. It's a movie, not an educator.. idiots.

 

[Lucid]

I think it's pretty good, if it's on, I'll watch it..

And to those who hate it because the science is bad.. wow.. give up on life. It's a movie, not an educator.. idiots.

But it comes across as a semi-serious movie.

 

[Dog--]

That doesn't change that it is, in fact, a movie... I suppose you believe Arnold Swarzenegger really is a robot from the future sent to find and kill John Connor...

 

[Jintor]

Is it the core where because the Earth's planetary magnetic fields fail, a gigantic laser comes from the sky and wipes out the Golden Gate Bridge?

 

[Lucid]

That doesn't change that it is, in fact, a movie... I suppose you believe Arnold Swarzenegger really is a robot from the future sent to find and kill John Connor...

What the hell?

The premise of Terminator 2 is plausible whereas The Core's isn't.

 

[xcellerate]

was this the movie where the coliseum was stroke by lighting so many times it exploded?

and then lighting traveled up the street creating a crevasse along it's path?

and for some reason there's a huge hollow space towards the center of the earth?

from another site:

In the scene where the crew's vessel gets stuck in the giant geode and the crystal jams the 'impeller', the magma begins to fill the chamber. They see it melting the crystals, yet they frantically continue working to free the crystal from the impeller and lose a crewman...and yet when they get back in the vessel, the magma indeed melts out the crystal that jammed the impeller. With 2 geologists onboard you would think they'd know that.

In the scene where 'Rat' is trying to hack into Project Destiny control, he gets several '404' errors, but '404' is page missing, not access denied. It should say '401- Access Denied'.

When the Golden Gate Bridge is destroyed by the sun's unfiltered rays (ya, right) the two towers of the bridge lean in the wrong direction. When the middle of the bridge is gone, only the tension from the anchor wires (connecting to land) would remain and they would pull the towers outward. However, in the movie the towers lean inward.

At the very end of the movie when the credits are rolling you see a panned view of the earth. The earth is rotating the wrong way.

In the scene where Dr. Keys is giving a lecture, he mentions that sound waves gain wavelength and lose frequency as they enter a denser medium. That's not completely true. Sound does gain wavelength, but frequency NEVER changes. It is velocity and wavelength which change to maintain the relationship velocity = frequency x wavelength. It is impossible for frequency (no. of waves per second) to change since that would mean waves get lost or created from nothing.

Magnetic fields do not stop electromagnetic radiation (such as microwaves).

When the vessel entered the geode (the great big empty hole), the crew was forced forward by the falling of the ship. They should have felt weightless - the ship was in free fall just like the "Vomit Comet" used by the Air Force to train astronauts and by Ron Howard to film Apollo 13.

In a few shots through the movie the gauges or screens displaying information, they use "PPI" for pounds per sq. inch instead of PSI. PPI is wrong it's always PSI. The first time you see it is in the scene when they just launch the ship right before they pierce the crust with Braz and Serge for sure.

While in the giant geode, the inflowing magma is referred to as lava. It is only lava when it is erupted onto the surface of the earth. In any case the mantle is nowhere near as liquid as is shown, it is almost completely solid.

When they come up with the idea of setting off the 5 bombs separately, there is a computer screen showing a picture of the Earth and the shock waves starting and interfering with each other. Each shock wave starts off from a different point - they are separated by at least 2000 km. But when they are dropping the bombs, they manage to drop them all within 2 hours (judging by the timer that they set on the first bomb). How did they manage to travel 10000 km in 2 hours?

In the scene where Eckart is decrypting data from Qualls using primes, the first number he enters is '1', which is not prime. [Some people have debated this, saying that as primes are any numbers not divisible by any number except themselves and 1, 1 must be prime. While it technically fits the description, 1 is generally considered NOT to be prime (http://www.utm.edu/research/primes/lists/small/1000.txt)].

 

[Ridge]

Imdb?

 

[Krynn72]

I actually just watched it. The few times where I wasnt saying "Oh, shut the **** up" it was an ok movie.

 

[Asknoone]

That doesn't change that it is, in fact, a movie... I suppose you believe Arnold Swarzenegger really is a robot from the future sent to find and kill John Connor...

What are you talking about?

 

[Absinthe]

That doesn't change that it is, in fact, a movie... I suppose you believe Arnold Swarzenegger really is a robot from the future sent to find and kill John Connor...

There is a bold distinction between requiring suspension of disbelief and insulting your audience's intelligence.

For me however, the bad science is just icing on the cake. A cake made of crap.

 

[ríomhaire]

I think it's pretty good, if it's on, I'll watch it..

And to those who hate it because the science is bad.. wow.. give up on life. It's a movie, not an educator.. idiots.

I don't hate it because the science is bad, I hate it because the science is retarded.

 

[Jintor]

I don't hate it because the science is bad, I hate it because the science is retarded.

And because the acting is retarded, and the premise is retarded, and the whole damn movie is retarded...

When we see something that bills itself as a 'scientific thriller', we expect the movie to adhere to basic laws of physics.

 

[Omega11]

That doesn't change that it is, in fact, a movie... I suppose you believe Arnold Swarzenegger really is a robot from the future sent to find and kill John Connor...

HELL YES!!
Sorry, I didn't even read the rest of this thread, I had to reply to that statement ><.

EDIT: Seconded Jintor, I don't care about the science much, I just care about the 'realism' and 'atmosphere'. Immagine playing HL2, where there was no gravity, nothing rolled, and everything stayed in place EVEN when 'affected' by a grenade. Not to mention,no ragdoll =[
It just adds to the experience, in which case, The Core is seriously lacking ANY THING more than an EXCUSE for an experience =|.

 

[The Monkey]

From Wikipedia:

Scientific Inaccuracies

While Hollywood science fiction films often tend to bend the laws of science in order to create a more compelling plot and keep the audience engaged, The Core bends the laws much more than most other big-budget films. Critics and scientists in general have pointed out multiple scientific inaccuracies and plot holes in the film:

In geology

* The Mariana Trench was described as being in the South Pacific, but it is actually located in the western North Pacific.
* Much of the Earth from the mantle inward is shown as liquid in the movie; however, the only wholly liquid layer of the Earth's interior is the outer core. Many researchers suspect that much of the Mantle is solid, except for magma that is contained in "pockets" within the lithosphere. However, little is known about the precise composition of the inner Earth.
* Though most scientists agree that the rotation of the Earth's liquid metal core is key to the Earth's magnetosphere functioning properly, the exact mechanism is not well understood. Furthermore, it is highly unlikely that anything short of a major cosmic impact event could stop the core's rotation completely; in which case, a diminished magnetic field would be the least of human troubles.
* The magma would have filled the giant geode seen in the movie in much less time than it did on screen because of the extreme pressures that are present at that depth.
* At the end of the movie, the ship is said to be rising between two tectonic plates "near Hawaii". Hawaii is in the center of the Pacific plate. There are no tectonic plate boundaries near Hawaii.
* When the ship is stuck in the geode, it is unnecessary for the crew to stay outside of the ship once they realized that the magma could have melted the crystals. The ship is impervious to the magma while the crystals weren't. The magma would have melted the crystals and left the ship unscathed.

In physics

* Despite being underneath hundreds of miles of solid rock, the crew is able to maintain radio contact with the control centre; the connection between ship's crew and the mission control center is maintained almost instantaneously throughout the entire operation by unspecified means, though electromagnetic radiation that could be used for real-time transmission at relatively short distances (outside of the Earth) would not reach the ship. Transmitting the signals using sonic waves would require much greater time. The control center keeps tracking the ship in the same real-time manner, though losing it in final stage of the operation when it seems to be captured between tectonic plates.
* The rotational momentum of a closed system is conserved. If the Earth's core were suddenly to stop rotating (or suddenly start rotating), the enormous change in rotational momentum would have to be balanced by a corresponding increase (decrease) in the rotational momentum of the Earth's crust, i.e. the length of day would change dramatically. The transfer of momentum would also result in earthquakes massive enough to render the Earth's surface uninhabitable, and internal heating of the planet which would likely produce the same result.
* The Earth's seasons would be dramatically changed as the bombs may not be placed in a straight order. The axis would change and seasons would differ. Changing of seasons and axis would also affect the magnetic field even more.
* Moving closer to the center of the Earth should result in a decrease in the force due to gravity, but no such effect is shown in the movie.
* In the movie scientists say that microwaves emitted by the sun will fry the earth. A yellow star like the sun emits a very small proportion of microwaves compared to its visible light output, and this radiation is largely unaffected by the geomagnetic field, or the "electromagnetic energy field" as it is called in the movie.
* The same beam of microwaves destroys the Golden Gate Bridge. The main cables snap, the center span collapses, and the two towers are shown leaning inward. The towers would lean outward from the break due to the tension of the remaining cable at the ends. This is an engineering design principle of a suspension bridge. Assuming that the bridge did snap, the conducted heat would loosen the cables holding it at the end. Also, it leans only slightly, which would result from this tiny melting.
* The cars on the Golden Gate bridge seem to be unaffected by the microwaves, while these same waves easily melt the bridge. In fact, it is likely that most metal structures would either reflect the microwaves or become electrically charged, not melt.
* A swarm of pigeons collides into buildings, cars, statues and people in London, with the ostensible explanation that birds navigate via the Earth's now-malfunctioning magnetic field. Such a magnetic sense, while indeed theorized, couldn't possibly guide birds around buildings, vehicles and people, a task for which they use their eyes (their eyesight was not affected), though some could argue that the pigeons were confused. The strength of the Earth's magnetic field is less than around most power lines, and this behavior is not seen in birds perched on power cables.
* When Braz ventures into the crawlspace where the ambient temperature is "9000 degrees", nothing around him is glowing (but this could be due to the metal that Braz created called "unobtainium"). Anything at 9000 degrees (either Fahrenheit or Celsius) would be white-hot. Additionally, he would have died almost instantly as the gases he was breathing would have heated to unbearable levels; also, his composite suit could never maintain its cohesion at temperatures that would melt virtually all known materials. [Though the suit could have been made of the same "Unobtainium" to a slight degree with a weave, the face mask of the suit obviously did not and would have been the first to melt and expose him to the high temperatures.] Furthermore, the match Braz lights in the chamber would've incinerated from the ambient temperature, as wood and phosphorus have autoignition temperatures of only a couple hundred degrees, far less than the geode's 9000 degrees.
* Braz's glasses crack under the intense heat. He would have died before the glass was hot enough to crack.
* When the Space Shuttle Endeavor crash lands towards the start of the movie, sonic booms can be heard as it approaches, but at this point the vehicle would be traveling at subsonic speeds Also, its touchdown vertical speed appears to be 50 or 60 metres per second, which would severely damage if not destroy the orbiter. A vertical speed of 1 or 2 m/s would be more appropriate.
* The Space Shuttle should not have been able to raise its landing gear when on the ground - the landing gear on most aircraft is equipped with a micro switch that detects pressure on the gear (i.e. it detects when the wheel is on the ground), and prevents it from retracting. In addition, the shuttle's landing gears cannot be retracted. They have to be manually retracted once it has landed and is prepped for the next flight.
* When the ship pierces the geode's surface and begins to fall, the crew are thrown forward in their seats. In reality, the crew would experience momentary weightlessness, similar to the "Vomit Comet".
* Lightning of any kind could not possibly cause buildings, particularly buildings made of stone, to disintegrate.[citation needed]

Regarding nuclear bombs

* Several large H-bombs are used to restart core rotation, each with a 200 megaton yield. The largest H-bomb ever built, the Tsar Bomba, had a 50 megaton yield. It weighed 25 tons and was 8 meters long and 3 meters in diameter. The bombs shown in the movie are roughly human-sized and can be pushed around by one or two people.
* The last bomb had to be 30% larger, or another 60 megatons had to be added to its yield. The fuel rods from the nuclear reactor (seven kilograms of plutonium) are used as additional fissile material. Such an amount of plutonium (Keyes lifted it around, and it was only the size of his torso) could not generate that much explosive force. The Fat Man bomb used roughly this amount of plutonium and had a 20 kiloton yield. Later improved bombs using this amount of plutonium still yielded less than 50 kilotons, less than a tenth of a percent of what was required.
* Furthermore, Keyes's approach of just leaning the plutonium reactor core against the bomb would have done nothing for yield. For fissile material to affect yield, it must be part of the weapon's physics package, not placed nearby. Since the weapons in the movie were ostensibly French, the implication would be that these would be implosion-type thermonuclear weapons. Ergo, unless the nuclear material was shaped perfectly and was within the explosive "crush sphere" in the bomb's physics package, there would be no effect on yield. The reactor core would merely be vaporized.
* The nuclear explosions depicted in the movie were roughly spherical. A spherical explosion would produce no torque on the Earth's core, and thus would be unable to start its rotation.
* Even with a total yield of one gigaton, the explosions would not be nearly powerful enough to start or even influence rotation in the outer core, which is roughly the size of Mars. The effect would be akin to attempting to impart a current into a swimming pool using small fireworks.
* During the preparation, it is made clear that the calculations upon which success or failure hinged were based on 'guesses' about core density.

Inconsistencies with the ship's design

* Even when the reactor core is removed, depriving the ship of power, the interior heats up far too slowly.
* Heat was used to form the hull together, even though the ship is supposed to be heat-resistant.
* There is a lengthy explanation about sections of the ship being designed to detach when the hull is compromised, which works for the plot as long as only the end section is damaged, but doesn't take into account the possibility that a middle section would be damaged, which would mean ejecting all subsequent sections.
* Each compartment houses a different function of the mission, rather than each designed with redundancies so that ejection of one compartment (the one with the bomb, for example), won't ruin the mission.
* The name of the material used in the ship's hull is also a small attempted joke by whoever did the "science" for this film; unobtainium is term used for a "magic" material, used whenever something impossible is being referred to. Hence, a material that converts heat into energy, withstands thousands of degrees and hundreds of atmospheres over long periods of time, and is a perfect thermal insulator, is something which does not, and possibly cannot, exist in the real world.
* Another inconsistency of the ship, is that they had designed the crew cockpit to be gyroscopic to gravity so the occupants would always have their feet facing the direction of gravity no matter how the terra-ship was orientated towards the center of gravity. As they are heading for the earth?s core, the center of earth's gravity, they should be for most part vertical towards it. A minor scene has Dr. Braz showing a model of the cockpit with this feature, and another major scene has the crew doing badly in a simulation cockpit to work as a team. However, this feature is not played properly through most of the journey aboard the terra-ship as the orientation of the ship is horizontal and not vertical. This includes nothing to say about the other chambers which there were apparently no gyroscopic consideration to orientation of the center of gravity within the movie scenes.
* The nuclear bombs used to restart the Earth's core in the movie are all clearly detonated still inside their separate compartments of the Virgil and as these compartments exteriors are all made of the same indestructible material, logically, they should entirely contain the nuclear explosions, rendering the detonations useless. (This could be excused if we assume that 'unobtainium' has some kind of asymmetric property so that it is indestructible only from the outside and not from the inside, but that is not stated.)

 

[Omega11]

One word, spelled out in spaced letters, and could pass for an acronym;

O W N A G E ! ! !

*An exclaimation marks

 

[Viperidae]

All I remember from this movie was: 'The earth will light on fire. Demonstrate.' Which then the main character lights a peach on fire, as if the audience could not possible imagine wtf fire is.

And 'THE WHALES.'

 

[Absinthe]

Haha! That scene always reminded me of the Earthworm Jim cartoon. One of the villains wanted to demonstrate his power, so he crushed a cupcake in his hand and everybody gasped in awe.

It's pretty sad when you can draw direct comparisons between a movie's plot and that of a Saturday morning cartoon...

 

[Omega11]

Lol, yeah, that scene was pretty pathetic =P

I REALLY hate that Whale scene though =___=

'They're signing to us D='
No, they are not, you crazy B***h, they're PROBABLY communicating to OTHER whales, I think that they care MUCH less about how you 'saved the earth'. . . from, you know, totally screwed up and obscure 'scientific' destruction -_-.

 

[Jintor]

Haha! That scene always reminded me of the Earthworm Jim cartoon. One of the villains wanted to demonstrate his power, so he crushed a cupcake in his hand and everybody gasped in awe.

It's pretty sad when you can draw direct comparisons between a movie's plot and that of a Saturday morning cartoon...

Hey. Earthworm Jim was BRILLIANT.

 

[soulslicer]

oh my god, that wiki article... just owned the movie. anyway, It was not exactly very famous btw, none of my friends have even heard of it.

 

[Omega11]

Yeah, it was on Movie Central in only like, a couple months
most movies have to wait almost a hole year