When robberies go wrong in the U.K.

[Nat Turner]

http://www.planetvids.com/html/Robbery-Gone-Wrong.html

Interesting robbery video. If that was my shop, I would have unloaded a shotgun into his face. Of course, in the U.K., all you're allowed to do is wait for the police.

"After some 20 minutes the police finally arrive."

 

[bliink]

detained "at her majesty's pleasure" means "never coming out again"

 

[Vegeta897]

Jesus, videos like that make me so uncomfortable. I'm glad he got caught

 

[bliink]

Jesus, videos like that make me so uncomfortable. I'm glad he got caught

Yes... situations like that are very hostile environments, but I'm surprised the 3 guys in there didn't do more than they did to fend off the lone attacker.

 

[kirovman]

detained "at her majesty's pleasure" means "never coming out again"

I was recently convicted for a string of armed robberies and was sentenced to be detained at Her Majesty's pleasure. I know I've done wrong, but the thought of the Queen sitting in a palace, smirking at my plight really galls me.

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

Thank God I live here, would have shot him as soon as he became violent.

 

[bliink]

Thank God I live here, would have shot him as soon as he became violent.

And then develop PTSD and spend years on medication.

 

[Last One In]

Shoot him in the knee caps

 

[Nat Turner]

And then develop PTSD and spend years on medication.

No.. probably not. Killing is (used to be) a natural part of life, and it's nothing that cripples you as a person, unless you have other issues.

 

[bliink]

No.. probably not. Killing is (used to be) a natural part of life, and it's nothing that cripples you as a person, unless you have other issues.

It might seem different in the movies, or in some nature magazine where you read that, but if you kill someone- it stays with you forever.

Even soldiers have problems afterwards. I haven't spoken to a single soldier, or seen one on tv who wasnt haunted by killing someone. And they're trained to kill other humans! they're specifically desensitised.

Soldiers still arent unfeeling killing machines, and you and I arent soldiers.

If someone dies by your hands, it will **** you up. Even if its in "hot blood".

I put it to you that theres something wrong with you if killing doesnt mess with you head.

 

[JNightshade]

erm, I beg to differ. Killing has always been a part of life, even a natural one, but that doesn't mean it's not absolutely wrenching and brutal. I mean, have you ever killed someone?

EDIT: I was begging to differ from Nat, not from bliink.

 

[Nat Turner]

It might seem different in the movies, or in some nature magazine where you read that, but if you kill someone- it stays with you forever.

Even soldiers have problems afterwards. I haven't spoken to a single soldier, or seen one on tv who wasnt haunted by killing someone. And they're trained to kill other humans! they're specifically desensitised.

Soldiers still arent unfeeling killing machines, and you and I arent soldiers.

If someone dies by your hands, it will **** you up. Even if its in "hot blood".

I put it to you that theres something wrong with you if killing doesnt mess with you head.

Yeah obviously it stays with you, I'm just saying you won't have to go on meds for it and such. It doesn't have to be that serious of an impact on you mentally. But I guess it depends on the person.

 

[JNightshade]

ah, ok. I thought you were saying that it's perfectly normal to kill someone, then just go on and never even think about it.

 

[FictiousWill]

I was recently convicted for a string of armed robberies and was sentenced to be detained at Her Majesty's pleasure. I know I've done wrong, but the thought of the Queen sitting in a palace, smirking at my plight really galls me.

Nicely put!

 

[bliink]

Yeah obviously it stays with you, I'm just saying you won't have to go on meds for it and such. It doesn't have to be that serious of an impact on you mentally. But I guess it depends on the person.

I think it would be a higher amount of people than you think.

For example, 18% of the troops in Iraq have been diagnosed with PTSD.

thats nearly 2 in 10.

Imagine what it would be for a civilian who's had no desensitisation training

 

[Nat Turner]

I think it would be a higher amount of people than you think.

For example, 18% of the troops in Iraq have been diagnosed with PTSD.

thats nearly 2 in 10.

Imagine what it would be for a civilian who's had no desensitisation training

But on the other hand, they have to live in combat situations for even years, while with a civilian it's just a one time thing.

 

[evil^milk]

son of a bitch! when he went for his eyes, it made me fill with rage.

 

[MilkMan12]

I dont get why england doesnt allow for shopkeepers like those to have a knife or better a gun...thats when its needed and thats when it should be used.

 

[DannyC.]

I dont get why england doesnt allow for shopkeepers like those to have a knife or better a gun...thats when its needed and thats when it should be used.

Indeed.

Anyway, I found it fun to watch, though it would have been much better without that screaming lady. :flame:

 

[bliink]

But on the other hand, they have to live in combat situations for even years, while with a civilian it's just a one time thing.

After being in combat for about 30 days straight, a soldier will probably be mentally broken. They used to call it battle fatigue.

Short, high impact, traumatic events can have the same effect though, especially if untreated- or not treated properly.

Soldiers all have access to psych staff whenever they need it, and they get given a good quality of care for as long as they need it. (now days anyway).

A civilian may get some counselling immediately after the event (from a (formally)untrained counsellor even), and after that, they're on their own.
In a country like the US, you need money to keep up mental health treatment, and not a lot of people have that.