Will Breen become an ally?

M

Max35

Tank
Joined
Dec 22, 2003
Messages
1,280
Reaction score
0
Well, presuming Breen survives the explosion at the end. He has nothing left, the Combine wouldn't scurry to rescue a failed administrator. I'm sure he knows alot about the Advisor and his plans. An invaluable tool, except he might actually become a target by the Advisor, who would probably like to silence him.
 
It would be an interesting turnout, yes. We'll probably have to wait until Half-Life 3 for that one, thought.
 
We've got 3 episodes to go to wrap up the HL2 story arc. We won't be waiting until HL3 (which may not happen).
I dunno, it is possible - infact, very possible. But would the resistance accept him? Yeah, he saved Earth for a so called better future but what’s left of the human populace (not much) has had two decades of oppression whilst Breen has continued his pursuit of scientific knowledge undeterred.

And then in 1 week and 3 days, Breen watched everything he spent two decades building crumble and collapse...would he be willing? It'll be an interesting turnout, no less.
 
Well, you were shooting balls of pure energy straight at his face. I don't know about you, but if it was me, I'd hold a grudge.
 
That'd be pretty cool, but I wouldn't want to find him and him suddenly be against the combine. He truly believed that the combine were humanity's best hope for survival and he let them down. Even if the combine make his chances of personal survival a bit grim, he still has a way to go before he's consider betraying them.

So basically, that's be pretty cool, but I'd feel a little cheated if we didn't get to see a good amount of story to alter his character to that point.

On the other hand, there are ways of getting the advantages of his knowledge without him actually becoming a full-fledged good guy. He could be captive, or a betrayer, for example.
 
Greatgat said:
Well, you were shooting balls of pure energy straight at his face. I don't know about you, but if it was me, I'd hold a grudge.
Click to expand...

Well he sent a legion of Combine after Gordon :D
 
No way. I want to be the one putting a bullet in his balding head.
 
Well, I agree with the above posters. He can't change his character/ideology because of a stroke of bad luck. As I mentioned, perhaps you unintentionally help Breen escape the hand of assassins, and he realized that the Advisor wants to silence him. So, he has no other choice but to help you. But maybe his assistance is shortlived because of the resistances' plan for vengeance.
 
He probably knows alot more about the combine than the others, and he seems to know about the G-Man (he mentions Gordon being a pawn). But I dunno, he tried to kill all the resistance forces for years and at the end tried to kill both eli and alyx...he does seems to be good at bargaining though.
 
The Combine announce that humanity has failed at life and they are extreminating. Breen meets up with you at some point and bitches that you have doomed humanity. He is still technicaly an enemy so you have the choice of putting a bullet in his head (to which Alyx will say that he deserved it or perhaps that it was a waste) and you move on. I'd leave him alive.
 
No I wouldn't put a bullet in his head. I would do something more creative, like throwing toilet in his face with the gravity gun.:E
 
Was Breen truly interested in the greater good of mankind, or was he first in line for a decent seat while the planet decayed, using his interest in helping mankind as a front?
 
Breen calls the Combine the "universal union" and derides people that call them "Combine" (ie, small minds). But, when you encounter him on the top of the citadel, he calls them Combine, which leads me to believe that Dr. Breen is only looking after Dr. Breen.
 
Redneck said:
No I wouldn't put a bullet in his head. I would do something more creative, like throwing toilet in his face with the gravity gun.:E
Click to expand...
Sounds good to me. :)
 
Firstly, Breen does not concern the Combine. Since Breen is having no further use or causing threat to Combine, Combine just does care what comes to Breen. Since Breen knows the relationship between G-man and Gordon and he tries to reveal something to Gordon, will G-man is the one who try to chase and kill Breen?

As for the rebel, they have no reason to execute Breen. They are just striving for freedom, not revenging.

0mar said:
"Combine" (ie, small minds).
Click to expand...

What's that? What is the relationship between small minds and Combine? What is the meaning of "small minds"?
 
bbson_john said:
As for the rebel, they have no reason to execute Breen. They are just striving for freedom, not revenging.
Click to expand...

Tell that to all the resistance fighters who died during the rebellion.

I think they set up Breen as too much of a hateful character for him to become an ally. If he did show up in Aftermath I would be completely surprised if Alyx didn't gun him down as soon as she saw him. (He'll probably be behind a forcefield, but she'll still try.)
 
Well Breen could be useful. He may know the information the rebels need to win the war.

Keep in mind that the rebellion leaders are Eli Vance/Mossman/Alyx. If the rebels find Breen somewhere I doubt they will shoot him on sight, but instead take him to Eli/Mossman/Alyx. And out of the three, I think only Alyx would kill him. But that is still very unlikely.
 
bbson_john said:
What's that? What is the relationship between small minds and Combine? What is the meaning of "small minds"?
Click to expand...
"...the Universal Union, who small minds call the 'Combine'..."
 
I believe his point is that Breen isn't totally loyal to the Combine, since:

a) The breencast says those who call them "the Combine" are "small minds," a derisive term.

b) Off the air, he himself calls them the Combine.
 
He calls them "The Combine" because Universal Union is long and inconvenient.
 
He is merely trying to maintain an image, it's propaganda - he wants to try and persuade people that this is a better future, and Universal Union sounds somewhat welcoming. It isn't because it's long and inconvenient (well, sort of), it's because Breen isn't exactly blind to what's going on.
 
I personally dont think Breen expects anyone to buy that crap, he's just following orders.

One thing i never understood in HL 2 - Breen was former Black Mesa admin and is probably highly qualified. Why couldn't he have developed a local teleporter for the Combine before Kleiner?
 
I think Breen does expect people to buy it, actually. His a cold man, but he still did what he thinks best. I doubt the Combine really care whether he lectures his race or not, they don't tell him to do it. Breen simply feels he needs to bridge the gap between his decision and the Combine.

I think the reason behind the local teleporter is, Breen was admin. Yes he is a scientist but I don't think thats his field of expertise.
 
99.vikram said:
One thing i never understood in HL 2 - Breen was former Black Mesa admin and is probably highly qualified. Why couldn't he have developed a local teleporter for the Combine before Kleiner?
Click to expand...

Hm... good question. Maybe Breen isn't a evil genius like he would like everyone to believe but merely a dumb ass bureaucrat.
 
It isn't his field. He is a scientist with an interest in space and what lies beyond, not practical teleportation. There was a great deal of research going on at Black Mesa that did not include teleportation.
 
99.vikram said:
I personally dont think Breen expects anyone to buy that crap, he's just following orders.

One thing i never understood in HL 2 - Breen was former Black Mesa admin and is probably highly qualified. Why couldn't he have developed a local teleporter for the Combine before Kleiner?
Click to expand...
Breen was an admin, a beurocrat. We don't know if he knows anything about physics.
 
ríomhaire said:
Breen was an admin, a beurocrat. We don't know if he knows anything about physics.
Click to expand...
Probably he knows, he is well educated, he is doctor (of what?) and he talked in Citadel about particles....
 
Pesmerga said:
Oh snap, particles, that's some insane abstract shit.
Click to expand...
If you want to study particles, you must have knowledge of physics...
 
Even if he does survive, I doubt very much that the resistence would accept him.
Unless Valve do some pansy "Well, we're so humane that we can forgive and forget. And actually, that bit where you thought it was morally permissible to turn human beings into Stalkers was quite funny actually."
 
Yes, but they have other extremely competent, accomplished scientists who didn't aid the massacre of other human beings.
Although I suppose a tense "You're only here because we need you - one foot wrong and you're dead meat." type atmosphere would be pretty damn cool.
 
Oh, sorry Chi, I was replying to Polaris - didn't realise there was a page 3 :p

el Chi said:
"You're only here because we need you - one foot wrong and you're dead meat." type atmosphere would be pretty damn cool.
Click to expand...

Oh yes, it would.
 
el Chi said:
Yes, but they have other extremely competent, accomplished scientists who didn't aid the massacre of other human beings.
Although I suppose a tense "You're only here because we need you - one foot wrong and you're dead meat." type atmosphere would be pretty damn cool.
Click to expand...

That sounds more than likely. Breen was probably the most intriguing character in Hl 2 and it would be a shame to let him dissapear for good. Hell, he might even be useful. But if he joins the resistance, i cant fight MECHABREEN :(
 
I think the idea of running around with breen, keeping combine assassins at bay is the most ridiculous and retarded AWESOME idea I've ever heard
 
Maybe his help is needed to escape City 17 white its slowly crumbling to the ground bit by bit, but as he fullfills his part of the deal and is about to escape too a Sniper hits him ftw :D :p
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

CombineAdvisor3
Combine Advisors - Leader or Slave?
Replies
0
Views
3K
CombineAdvisor3
CombineAdvisor3
B
Marc Laidlaw releases Half-Life 2: Episode Three's plot
Replies
32
Views
39K
BabyHeadCrab
BabyHeadCrab
B
The leaked maps of the Half-Life 2 episodes - Part 2
Replies
0
Views
9K
Barnz
B
MFL
Fascinating look at the ongoing psychological evolution of flat hieirarchies.
Replies
2
Views
2K
Tollbooth Willie
Tollbooth Willie
B
The cut missions of Half-Life: Decay
Replies
2
Views
21K
Evo
Evo
Back
Top