World Rank Order - Military expenditures - percent of GDP.. interesting...

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Military expenditures - percent of GDP
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Date of Information
1
Eritrea 17.70 2005 est.
2
Jordan 11.40 2005 est.
3
Oman 11.40 2005 est.
4
Qatar 10.00 NA
5
Saudi Arabia 10.00 2005 est.
6
Angola 8.80 2005 est.
7
Israel 7.70 2005 est.
8
Liberia 7.50 2005 est.
9
Madagascar 7.20 2005 est.
10
Armenia 6.50 FY01
11
Yemen 6.40 2005 est.
12
Macedonia 6.00 NA
13
Syria 5.90 NA
14
Burundi 5.60 2005 est.
15
Maldives 5.50 2005 est.
16
Turkey 5.30 2003
17
Brunei 5.10 2003 est.
18
Morocco 5.00 2005 est.
19
Bahrain 4.90 2005 est.
20
Singapore 4.90 NA
21
Bosnia and Herzegovina 4.50 NA
22
China 4.30 2005 est.
23
Djibouti 4.30 2005 est.
24
Greece 4.30 2003
25
Kuwait 4.20 2005 est.
26
United States 4.06 2005 est.
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I remember a while back a topic on certain countries Defense budget -> how "much" the US defense budget was...
I find this an "interesting" fact-list :angel: , especially how it "sheds a different light on the subject"....
For instance, the USA isnt even in the top 25...
 
That is interesting, except as an overall percentage from the particular country 4.06 most likely equates to far more money than alot of countries with higher percentages, seeing as the US economy is far more wealthy. It's all relative.
 
Thats the point. The absolute number is higher then all other countries not because Americans are "obsessed with spending beyond insane amounts on military" (them not even being in the top 25 says alot), but because even only 4% of the US GDP is a freekin big bag of money...
 
LOL, funny how most of the ones ahead of the US are either dictatorships or very small countries.
 
What those figures dont show however, is that USA military spending accounts for nearly half of all federal government expenditure.
 
When you think of it in terms of that Orio demonstration someone posted on here with the lack of balanced funding in the US economy, then it is very wrong.

It's undeniable that corporate America and top polticians are favouring financing the military industrial complex over education, health care, and basically everything thats relevant to supporting the development of the bulk of American citizens.
 
So because the actual amount is higher than all others, because it is the wealthiest nation by far.. the US "should reduce" the relatively small 4%, otherwise its beyond excessive to say the least?... Cmon..
hehe, funny, thats like Bill Gates saying "i demand to pay less tax because the actual amount i pay is way way way larger than anybody else" :p j/k
 
Following on from what SAJ says, I think it would be more illuminating to see a comparision of military spending as a proportion of the government budget, rather of GDP.
 
Ome_Vince said:
I remember a while back a topic on certain countries Defense budget -> how "much" the US defense budget was...
I find this an "interesting" fact-list :angel: , especially how it "sheds a different light on the subject"....
For instance, the USA isnt even in the top 25...
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Yeah, it's good to know that the US is only #26. Until you realize who the top 25 are. In fact, would you want to live in any of the top 40 countries besides the US? We're not in very good company.
 
Whats wrong with Madagascar, Turkey, Morocco, Singapore, Bahrain, Greece, Qatar ,Maldives?
 
/points out Israel
I say we go after Israel once we're done with Iraq ^_^

And who the heck is Eritrea
 
Ome_Vince said:
Whats wrong with Madagascar, Turkey, Morocco, Singapore, Bahrain, Greece, Qatar ,Maldives?
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And kuwait for that matter... Kuwait is supposedly a very nice place to live except when invaded by Iraq.
 
Raeven0 said:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/fy2007/tables.html

Let's see. 440 billion dollars requested for the DoD, plus 33 billion more dollars for Homeland Security, compared to a meager 398 billion for all other government operations.
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Yes, government budgets is a different story, I'm refering to the US GDP as to how oriented US economy is on military.

Raeven0 said:
Not to mention the failure of Israel to partake of the NPT, the CWC, and the BWC.
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hehe, a list of countries that either did not sign NPT, CWC and/or BWC (or none at all):
India, Pakistan, North Korea, Egypt, Libya, Serbia and Montenegro, Israel, Sudan, Syria, Taiwan, Andorra, Angola, Cameroon, Chad, Comoros, Cook Islands, Djibouti, Eritrea, Guinea, Kazakstan, Kiribati, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Federated States of Micronesia, Mozambique, Namibia, Nauru, Niue, Samoa, Trinidad and Tobago, Tuvalu, Zambia

What a funny list, => Happy hunting guys :angel:
 
Ome_Vince said:
Yes, government budgets is a different story, I'm refering to the US GDP as to how oriented US economy is on military.



hehe, a list of countries that either did not sign NPT, CWC and/or BWC (or none at all):
India, Pakistan, North Korea, Egypt, Libya, Serbia and Montenegro, Israel, Sudan, Syria, Taiwan, Andorra, Angola, Cameroon, Chad, Comoros, Cook Islands, Djibouti, Eritrea, Guinea, Kazakstan, Kiribati, Marshall Islands, Mauritania, Federated States of Micronesia, Mozambique, Namibia, Nauru, Niue, Samoa, Trinidad and Tobago, Tuvalu, Zambia

What a funny list, => Happy hunting guys :angel:
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Stupid. Out of that list only a handful have any chance of developing NCB weapons. Only four have developed nukes. There is little need for the rest to sign up to non-proliferation treaties. As a comparitively developed state, Israel are being tools by not signing the NPT.
 
Ome_Vince said:
I'm refering to the US GDP as to how oriented US economy is on military.
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Really? Because it seems to me you're trying to use the percentage of GDP spent to imply, quite ludicrously, that America is not going ridiculously overboard on its military spending. Like you did here, in fact:
Ome_Vince said:
I remember a while back a topic on certain countries Defense budget -> how "much" the US defense budget was...
I find this an "interesting" fact-list :angel: , especially how it "sheds a different light on the subject"....
For instance, the USA isnt even in the top 25...
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Ome_Vince said:
hehe, a list of countries that either did not sign NPT, CWC and/or BWC (or none at all):
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Note that Iraq is not on the list. And yet which random sandy nation did we arbitrarily choose to invade?
 
*sign, as i said in the topic-title, i'm trying to shed a different light on the subject, following-up on a topic that was posted a while back on budgets -> 4% of the GDP implies the economy is not rediculously focussed on military spending.

That half the US Governments budget is being spend on military atm.. hmm.. could that possibly be because they are involved in 2 wars? -> Afghanistan and Iraq??? :)
And that having armies there => expensive?

O, and yeah, Iraq is not on that list indeed => are you possibly expecting me to defend the invasion of iraq with that comment? tsst, pay more attention plz -> i always more than objected the invasion of Iraq.

@pomegranate
Read very carefully what i've said: havent signed NPT, CWC and/or BWC yet you choose to focuse only on NPT? :)
I have no doubt Federated States of Micronesia has little chance to ever develope Nukes lol.
 
I agree you have to try and look at it from a different perspective, but it just so happens it's stories like this that make it hard when trying to cut the US military and pentagon some slack.

That story is really just astounding, and just goes to show that when it comes to funding it's likely the government representitives and corporate entity that revolves around it doesn't really know what the left hand is doing from the right, which is scary.
 
Woa that is indeed scary stuff

From Article said:
To understand how the Pentagon can lose track of trillions, consider the case of one military accountant who tried to find out what happened to a mere $300 million.
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w...t....f.. :O
 
Ome_Vince said:
@pomegranate
Read very carefully what i've said: havent signed NPT, CWC and/or BWC yet you choose to focuse only on NPT? :)
I have no doubt Federated States of Micronesia has little chance to ever develope Nukes lol.
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I chose to focus on NPT because we are talking about Israel, and Israel is notorious for failing to acknowledge having nuclear weapons. What is your point?
 
*sign, we werent just talking about nukes alone, the list setup is about "NPT, CWC and/or BWC" not just NPT........
Slowly reread the history of those quotes.
 
Ome_Vince said:
*sign, we werent just talking about nukes alone, the list setup is about "NPT, CWC and/or BWC" not just NPT........
Slowly reread the history of those quotes.
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Stop being so ****ing patronising, it's totally unwarranted. As I said, Israel is particularly noted for having nuclear weapons and not admitting to it. What if I focus on the NPT, so what of it?
 
I couldnt ****ing care less if you did, just dont quote my posts and cartoonize it by focussing on 1 of the elements i'm refering too.
 
Ome_Vince said:
Woa that is indeed scary stuff



w...t....f.. :O
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Yes, indeed wtf, I know it's probably like me to bring this up, but I just want to make a point from the article.

Minnery, a former Marine turned whistle-blower, is risking his job by speaking out for the first time about the millions he noticed were missing from one defense agency's balance sheets. Minnery tried to follow the money trail, even crisscrossing the country looking for records.
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If you follow the money trail from 911.. this is recorded by mainstream media reports, it points to Pakistan's Lead general Mahmoud Ahmed, who wire transfered $100,000 to Mohammed Atta before the attacks http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1266317,00.html

For years the CIA used the ISI as a conduit to pump billions of dollars into militant Islamist groups in Afghanistan, both before and after the Soviet invasion of 1979.
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The ISI is also a funding conduit for Pakistan.
 
I love the US and its military, most likely because they're our allies and protect us from the threats of stuff...


So I have no qualms about US military spendind being high, I say they should expend it and help us more.
 
15357 said:
D:

WE MUST EXPAND!



Ah, thats better. We have the 6th largest spending. :D
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No... you have the eleventh largest... Starting from the top doesn't work... since Canada spends less than the united states.
 
So wait, cut back on our military budget? Why? Do you want our men and women out there to have shittier guns, armor, training, equipment, and higher casualties? We spend all that because we can afford to, and can't afford not to.
 
Flyingdebris said:
So wait, cut back on our military budget? Why? Do you want our men and women out there to have shittier guns, armor, training, equipment, and higher casualties? We spend all that because we can afford to, and can't afford not to.
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Read this if you missed the earlier link http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/29/eveningnews/main325985.shtml
"According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions," Rumsfeld admitted.

$2.3 trillion — that's $8,000 for every man, woman and child in America. To understand how the Pentagon can lose track of trillions, consider the case of one military accountant who tried to find out what happened to a mere $300 million.
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The majority of that 'supposedly required funding' seems to go missing.
 
secret weapons or the pockets of some of the less scrupulous members of the pentagon. Dammit, i want my exosuits.
 
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