World War Z: An Oral History of the Zombie War

[MJ12]

Anyone read the book? Just started to, really like it.

Allegedly it's been offered more money for a script than any other book?
I find that to be incredible if true.

There's not much info on the movie, although it's to come out in 2008.

I hope they don't make it really goofy or anything. I can't imagine how they are going to chop it up to fit into one movie.

http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3947&Itemid=99

 

[staticprimer]

I couldn't imagine that story told in any format other than a book. There's just so much detail into everything that a movie could never do it justice.

 

[theotherguy]

Quite frankly I thought the book to be too cheezy, too brief, and just downright stupid.

Max Brook's zombies are not believable at all, and the characters are all rather cardboard. He invents more and more hand-waving charachteristics for his zombies that prevent them from being decimated by things like say, machine guns, gas and incendiary bombs, all of which would obviously kill living, breathing human beings, but (quite retartedly) his zombies are all "dead".

 

[MJ12]

Quite frankly I thought the book to be too cheezy, too brief, and just downright stupid.

Max Brook's zombies are not believable at all, and the characters are all rather cardboard. He invents more and more hand-waving charachteristics for his zombies that prevent them from being decimated by things like say, machine guns, gas and incendiary bombs, all of which would obviously kill living, breathing human beings, but (quite retartedly) his zombies are all "dead".

I don't understand what you mean. Granted I've only finished the first chapter. I didn't think I would like the book, (I loved the survival guide), but I so far I enjoy it.

 

[theotherguy]

I don't understand what you mean. Granted I've only finished the first chapter. I didn't think I would like the book, (I loved the survival guide), but I so far I enjoy it.

He goes through several hair-brained examples in which the zombies are given more and more implausible powers, (extreme strength, resistance to decay and hunger, ability to hear and smell for miles around, resistance to poison gas, biological weapons and nuclear bombs.

But, they can't survive cold weather.

:|

 

[DEATH eVADER]

Max Brooks is pratically the only person who included any type of politics into a zombie flick.

I've just bought the book today (I'll be reading it later)

 

[Cpt Tenacious]

I loved the Zombie Survival Guide and World War Z. The realism Max Brooks puts into his zombies is what I like the most. There not like crazy hollywood zombies, after reading the survival guide I almost began to think zombies were real.

 

[MJ12]

after reading the survival guide I almost began to think zombies were real.

Agree, the way he talks about them makes it seem like a real existing problem.

 

[VictimOfScience]

Yeah, I liked the book a lot, though I question whether the world needs another zombie movie....

 

[MJ12]

Yeah, I liked the book a lot, though I question whether the world needs another zombie movie....

I would really enjoy a grand dominating zombie movie, that would be completely better than any of the ones released in this generation so far. This doesn't mean it has to have huge explosions and be action packed, just a well done zombie movie that ties the idea of the crisis of a zombie plague into one film with a completely realistic feel.

I am really hoping that maybe, just maybe, World War Z could accomplish this.


Dawn of the Dead and 28 Days later captured a good modern societal paniced feel of what it might be like if there was such a thing, both were good films, however both had flaws.

Edit: And oh, the Day of the Dead remake is going to suck so much, Nick Canon is in it, trailer looks terrible.

 

[Narvi]

Oy, what was stopping people in WWZ from using a minesweeper (you know, one of those big things that smash the ground with hammers) to clear out zombie hordes? How are they going to get through a tank now?

 

[theotherguy]

Oy, what was stopping people in WWZ from using a minesweeper (you know, one of those big things that smash the ground with hammers) to clear out zombie hordes? How are they going to get through a tank now?

Exactly, it was retarded. They had the army fight the zombies on foot, and in the confusion the tanks all ran out of ammo, thereby becoming useless. With nobody to refuel them, the crews just jumped out and got zombified.

Later the army abandoned all forms of modern technology and adopted civil war tactics, which were somehow better than using much more efficient, modern automatic weaponry.

WHY NOT JUST RUN OVER THE GODDAMN ZOMBIES!?!? BUILD ZOMBIE-PROOF TANKS YOU IDIOTS!!!

ugh, whatever.

 

[Geogaddi]

Oy, what was stopping people in WWZ from using a minesweeper (you know, one of those big things that smash the ground with hammers) to clear out zombie hordes? How are they going to get through a tank now?

Exactly, it was retarded. They had the army fight the zombies on foot, and in the confusion the tanks all ran out of ammo, thereby becoming useless. With nobody to refuel them, the crews just jumped out and got zombified.

Later the army abandoned all forms of modern technology and adopted civil war tactics, which were somehow better than using much more efficient, modern automatic weaponry.

WHY NOT JUST RUN OVER THE GODDAMN ZOMBIES!?!? BUILD ZOMBIE-PROOF TANKS YOU IDIOTS!!!

ugh, whatever.

Both of these things were addressed in the book. Come World War Z you two will be lunch.

 

[theotherguy]

Both of these things were addressed in the book. Come World War Z you two will be lunch.

Well, come world war Z with ridiculous, Max Brooks style zombies with magic powers.

 

[Narvi]

Both of these things were addressed in the book. Come World War Z you two will be lunch.

I don't have the book. Tell me what happened, besides the army being retarded.

 

[MJ12]

But, they can't survive cold weather.

:|

Did you just ruin the ending for me? :|

 

[staticprimer]

No, that comes up about half way through the book.

 

[Sliver]

He goes through several hair-brained examples in which the zombies are given more and more implausible powers, (extreme strength, resistance to decay and hunger, ability to hear and smell for miles around, resistance to poison gas, biological weapons and nuclear bombs.

But, they can't survive cold weather.

:|

They don't die. They freeze. I even remember a quote in the book questioning why they don't die while frozen , something about the cell walls bursting that should kill them, but it doesn't.

 

[kai]

Yeah, remember that one chick said that they survive when frozen and when they thaw out, they just start eating people again.

 

[Sulkdodds]

The book was alright. Will the film be better or worse? Tune in next week on Apathy Central.

Max Brooks is pratically the only person who included any type of politics into a zombie flick.

lol wut

 

[Adrik_Senturu]

He goes through several hair-brained examples in which the zombies are given more and more implausible powers, (extreme strength, resistance to decay and hunger, ability to hear and smell for miles around, resistance to poison gas, biological weapons and nuclear bombs.

But, they can't survive cold weather.

:|

I dont remember extreme strength, but Ill give you prolonged decay and a hightened sense of hearing and smelling. Although why would poisonous gas or biological weapons have any effect on the dead? The only thing thats alive is the brain, so its not like poisoning a zombie is going to do any good if the heart isn't pumping any blood.

 

[theotherguy]

I dont remember extreme strength, but Ill give you prolonged decay and a hightened sense of hearing and smelling. Although why would poisonous gas or biological weapons have any effect on the dead? The only thing thats alive is the brain, so its not like poisoning a zombie is going to do any good if the heart isn't pumping any blood.

Well its not like the brain would be able to survive if there was no oxygen or blood flowing either.

 

[Adrik_Senturu]

He explains that solanum (the virus that re-animates the body) gets rid of the need for blood or oxygen to the brain. Its in the zombie survival guide.

Why argue about this though? Not only is this a work of fiction, but its about zombies >_> He can do whatever the hell he feels like with his zombies.

 

[ktimekiller]

the zombies didnt have super strength, he states in his book that they dont, but instead they have the ability to push the human body to the limits a normal human usually cannot.

 

[Narvi]

Nobody answered my question on how they managed to take down tanks if they don't have super-duper strength.

 

[AJ Rimmer]

Nobody answered my question on how they managed to take down tanks if they don't have super-duper strength.

I think he describes it as the tanks did do damage, just like the artillery rounds, just not enough. Zombies can still come at you even if they're just a torso and an arm with a head, and in the bigger engagements even a major artillery strike or tank attack are going to wipe out hundreds, maybe a few thousand zombies out of millions that just keep coming. Eventually the lines would be overrun and the tanks would either flee or the crew would panic and try to get out in the middle of a zombie horde.

I agree that the total failure of the american army is a bit contrived but what the hell, suspension of disbelief.

 

[Bob_Marley]

He explains that solanum (the virus that re-animates the body) gets rid of the need for blood or oxygen to the brain. Its in the zombie survival guide.

Why argue about this though? Not only is this a work of fiction, but its about zombies >_> He can do whatever the hell he feels like with his zombies.

He also, in effect, makes his zombies perpetual motion machines, what with their ability to keep on going with no energy intake.

 

[MJ12]

He also, in effect, makes his zombies perpetual motion machines, what with their ability to keep on going with no energy intake.

thats how all zombies are? No nervious system, nothing to indicate to the brain that you need a rest, or need more energy. Just keep going until your skin an bones literally wear down from friction and decay.



Sidenote, from what I've gathered in the book so far, the zombies are very slow, about the speed of original Night of The Living Dead zombies. I must admit this makes them seem less threatening.

 

[theotherguy]

thats how all zombies are? No nervious system, nothing to indicate to the brain that you need a rest, or need more energy. Just keep going until your skin an bones literally wear down from friction and decay.



Sidenote, from what I've gathered in the book so far, the zombies are very slow, about the speed of original Night of The Living Dead zombies. I must admit this makes them seem less threatening.

But the problem is, muscles very much need oxygen and ATP to function. They wouldn't be able to operate their skeletal muscles without oxygen from the lungs and ATP from food.

 

[MJ12]

well sure, but now you are arguing the entire myth of zombies and how they function, not just from the book, which we all know isn't real. The only zombies I can think of that didn't really function that way are the ones from 28 Days/Weeks later.

 

[theotherguy]

well sure, but now you are arguing the entire myth of zombies and how they function, not just from the book, which we all know isn't real. The only zombies I can think of that didn't really function that way are the ones from 28 Days/Weeks later.

Exactley, which is why 28 days later zombies are superior.

 

[ktimekiller]

this is like arguing how mages in dungeons and dragons magically call upon flames into their hands and control them through the air.

IN OTHER WORDS, ITS FICTION DEAL WITH IT

 

[Narvi]

It's moronic when he's trying to be "realistic".