wow new ati stuff

[Gajdycz]

http://www.ati.com/companyinfo/press/2004/4783.html

does this mean my 1 gig ram will sorta combine with by 128 vid card, thus giving my vid card more than 1gig ram? at lower speeds?

 

[The Dark Elf]

http://www.ati.com/companyinfo/press/2004/4783.html

does this mean my 1 gig ram will sorta combine with by 128 vid card, thus giving my vid card more than 1gig ram? at lower speeds?

pretty much yeah, AFAIK. Aswell as making video cards cheaper too, which I guess is a good thing.

*waits for nVidia to suddenly out of the blue tomorrow, announce the same thing weeks ago.. like they do*

 

[Gajdycz]

ok i just read it in depth here is the jist

with a pci express solution, a video card will use ur system memory

if u have 2 gigs of ram, and hl2 like 1 gig, one gig will go to hl2 and programs, while the rest is "borrowed" by ur vid card

vid cards MAY come out with no ram in the future, AFTER this has CAught on, or we may see vid cards wil pumped up cores and little memory

2 things for my self, waits for amd pciexpress, and what does afaik mean?

 

[The Dark Elf]

ok i just read it in depth here is the jist

with a pci express solution, a video card will use ur system memory

if u have 2 gigs of ram, and hl2 like 1 gig, one gig will go to hl2 and programs, while the rest is "borrowed" by ur vid card

vid cards MAY come out with no ram in the future, AFTER this has CAught on, or we may see vid cards wil pumped up cores and little memory

2 things for my self, waits for amd pciexpress, and what does afaik mean?

afaik = as far as I know


As for cards coming with no memory.. its possible, if this method allows cards to eventually run as well and/or better than current methods it'll catch on for sure, otherwise it wont I'd say.

 

[Gajdycz]

well im saying in like 3-4 no ram on the cards, or very little to no emphizes on it.

 

[The Dark Elf]

well im saying in like 3-4 no ram on the cards, or very little to no emphizes on it.

if it works well you could probably expect it in less than 3 years, next year even. IF it performs well. Course that could have the knock on effect of PC memory going up, always seemed very susceptible to the market, whereas most things stay around the same price, memory can skyrocket without much warning. So it might be a bad thing in the long run.. And you'd probably have to have very expensive brand memory in the first place for it to work well. regular memory maybe wouldn't be able to cope with it in a year or so.

 

[Gajdycz]

yeah, i see some glitches early on, mostly about the performance of the ram, there will probably be an on/off feature.

 

[jonbob]

We'll have to see about the RAM sky-rocketing. Didn't Infineon just get slapped for fixing prices?

 

[Gajdycz]

yeah, but havent ddr been going down?

 

[Dr. Freeman]

vid cards MAY come out with no ram in the future, AFTER this has CAught on, or we may see vid cards wil pumped up cores and little memory

i don't think video cards will come with absolutely no ram at all.. justs just how i think it will be regardless of how good thie tech is.
before this technology actually works in combination with PCI-Express, PCI-Express itself needs to start showing some major benefits of owning it.

i think this time next year PCI-Express will become a mature technology and will have many benefits in-turn causing gamers to eventually purchase motherboards with the tech...

 

[Gajdycz]

well apg has 2x the bandwidth needed, pci expepress is needed for this memory borrowing, thu snow having a purpose.

 

[Cybernoid]

Not exactly "innovative" if you ask me. Integrated display adapters have been running with system RAM for years.

 

[blahblahblah]

It kinda of sounds like they are preparing the technology that will be used in DX 10.

http://www.beyond3d.com/articles/directxnext/index.php?p=2

 

[ailevation]

:cheers: Sounds great. But could be utter bs.

 

[psyno]

Sounds like the old AGP aperature to me, ported to PCIe. The fact is that system memory is signficantly slower than video memory. It would require the equivalent of DDR2000 (two thousand) before a dual-channel system could even match the bandwidth of current local video memory solutions, not to mention latency.

Anyone see that speed of memory in the roadmaps for the next few years?
I haven't.

 

[crabcakes66]

Which is why the things that need to be instantly accessed will still be stored on the cards ram. Improving speed and/or reducing cost.


..and things that normally are read from system ram and the hardrive will happen at a faster rate.

 

[JimmehH]

I think the really interesting ATI thing is their new AMD chipset. It's going to be the first out for AMD that has PCI-E support. Looks like they're really going after nVidia's position.

 

[ailevation]

:naughty: Would be neat if those ATi boards supported SLI, haha. Smart move.