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please explain shamrock, as i have heard this many times, also if you have read the benchmark the inquirer had earlier, they say the settings i have now came up with fairly good results, is that true? here's the link, http://theinquirer.net/?article=19405 i'm really looking forward to the hl2...

yea, cheap. but just scared of refurbished products(any opinions of them?) i'ma save up for processor later it's the graphics that's important rite now heehe

well if i'm not going to go refurbished, does any one have recommendations to a trust worthy company that has cheap 9800 pros that's unused?

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-268R&depa=0 this is the one i want to get, i'm still deciding on refurbished ones or unused ones i have a amd athlon xp 1800+ 512 mb of ram gigabyte GA-7VAXP ultra mobo 80 gb of hard drive space( dunno company)

yesterday i told my brother about the 9800 pro and he said it was too expensive and the 9200 series will be okay to play half life 2 or other games i'd like to ask about ur opinion about this and i will be showing my brother this forum and how yall think

i don't know if it's the correct forum, but i'm planning to buy a 9800 pro in newegg, and i'm wodering if the refurbished products are trust worthy?

coo, that's all good, i'm set about half life 2, but i'm more worried about cs:s

does anyone know of any good easy to access cpu temperature programs from the net for download?

does any one have suggestions to programs that shows my cpu temperature? in the bar on the bottom? for quick access

i know how processors will be an important factor too, but i simply can't find money for a new one......i would consider an athlon 64 because of it's reliability, etc. But i simply can't afford another processor........i might probably have to wait til next summer(when i MIGHT get a...

runninig low on budget can't get new processor, i'm saving up for 9800 pro and still not enough money yet, just think the system will work, i got 512 mb of ram the processor and the 9800, it MIGHT be in medium-high settings i REALLY hope

When a graphics card is being bottlenecked, is it the mobo problem or the processor problem? I want to learn more about bottlenecking and i have a amd athlon xp 1800+ i wonder if a 9800 pro will get bottle necked, if it's the processor's problem.

damn...all pci-e? crap gotta get new comp in around 1-2 years you say? any recommendations of cheap and good pci-e mobos?

I know there's a lot of other cards out there, but i've always heard 9800 pro is the cheapest one bring out great quality, it's really true that it's cheap too, at newegg i found one for $177, i wish they'll get cheaper by the time it's thanks giving sale, therefore shortening my wait......

what i mean is if there's gonna be any new vid cards yall know that'll be coming out in dec, easier to understand? ecthelion i agree, my brother keeps telling me to not buy a new vid card because he's gonna say my geforce 2 mx 400 is GREAT with his amd athlon 1800+.......... :sleep: :sleep...

iight, i was planning to upgrade my graphics card in december but i was reading a thread about there might be new video cards coming out, can you pplz gimme some if you know it? i'd appreciate it if it was good quality and affordable like the radeon 9800 pro

ok, i have a intel p4 1.7 ghz, a geforce2 mx, and 256 gigs of ram, how much would the improvements when playing hl2 will be with this investment? add half a gig of ram to my existing 256 buy a radeon 9800 pro 128mb and a BIG increase of 100, that's right, 100 mhz with a mobo replacement...

oh so the online stores have slaes too?? ne one know if newegg.com has any sales? i found a $155 radeon 9800 pro there, they got the BEST prices! :cheese:

sup, i was wondering, since earlier, i talked about the christmas sale wit someone. If you like live in america, can you tell me about how much the prices drop? cuz i'm plannin to buy hl2 and a radeon 9800 pro then, i hope they'll be half off or somethin like that

oh...yea, well i'ma need a new mobo too cuz it's too tight spaced for the video/network/sound cards......i'm gonna need to fix up space for 9800 pro when i get it too haha :D thx homie