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Uhhh. Right. D3 will be a pretty kick ass game as well or everything else id have ever done is no guide. Ho hum. I begin to think D3 will beat HL2 out though so just for you I'll check the D3 box.

I'm not sure how PR has anything to do with it but at this rate I'm guessing id's opus will be out before Valves. Aah well, looking forward to them both.

Aaah nuts. ;(

*sigh* Oh well. You realise this means there's a pretty decent chance that D3 will beat HL2 out the door now?? Hmmm.

I figure they will have learnt a few lessons too. :) I guess, assuming they can give me the usual assurances then I will be happy to hand over the details. I'm inclined to want to do it outside Steams framework though.

Heh. I think some of you are kind of missing the point of the site. Usually I fnd it pretty funny, although Madsen can be a dick, no doubt about it. I think this might be my favourite recent strip - http://www.little-gamers.com/index.php?strip_id=658

As the man says.. If I'd seen a series of new screenies, showing something not in the E3 vids, like ooh, scanners or something I'd believe it. One of the first signs the D3 alpha leak was real was multiple screenies showing new stuff or stuff from very different angles. Nothing like that...

I feel like part of a good old "Burn the witch!!" style mob. ;) Perhaps we should start checking our PC's to see if they way the same as ducks. :E

In which case he should email Valve with it and any logs/proof he has. IT IS his place to get in the middle, he needs to stand up for the actions that have taken place and if he wants to get his JAPS clan off the hook then that's the only good way of doing it.

:thumbs:

Nice analogy with the Bulger case moron. She turned away, turned back and he was gone. You don't think the kid who led the toddler by hand to his death was completely responsible? Uhuh.

Indeed. I would imagine the recent flurry of steam updates are thanks in part to alterations Valve are making to the steam code in order to flummox/patch any gaps. Still I'd keep your firewall up and your eyes on your PC if I were you.

It's really not the cheats that concern me most as much as the potential for hackers to access your PC's by piggy backing on Half Life 2 (Or indeed Steam) and executing code or other unpleasantness on your system.

I thought you didn't want to do that. I know I sure as hell didn't want you to. I'll now have to scroll like a crazy man to get to the next post! >:E ;)

He's conceded you have a point but he's still quite right from a legal point of view, However if permission of use wasn't granted (and it's clear it wasn't) there is no fair use.

No I don't think it likely any major developer will be stupid enough to rip code out of the HL2 source, the potential for expensive and potentially fatal litigation are too enormous. I think most commercial coders in the field will try to avoid even giving the thing a look see to avoid...

I'm fairly positive it is. I can't imagine Dougs comment about problems with their Email system were coincidental knowing what we now know. Which, I'm afraid to say sounds like it was a panic (and completely understandable/necessary) last minute pulling of the release when they worked out...

PiMuRho is right to take this line. You'll find in about the first 3 seconds of your spirited defence in court (or quite probably beforehand if you didn't hire Lionel Hutz as representation) that distribution of said stolen goods is covered under handling stolen goods. As is simply downloading...

Well, ****.

Nope. (Hey w00t! I'm a zombie. :E)