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Go with the sapphire retail, the sapphire OEM will not include software or any add on's. Basically OEM was designed not for cheaps cards, it was designed to replace cards if one broke that was past warranty. I own a Sapphire 9800Pro Retail, belive me, they smoke any other 9800pro i've seen...

I wish my system had a chaos lock........sorry...... :cheers:

----just thought I would comment, I had a friend with an asus mobo, his bios update manual said not to flash from a floppy. So I did anyway, and it worked just fine. Still to this day it boggles my mind why they would say not to flash from a floppy.....---- :eek:

by all means yes, go with the second hard drive. That way if one crashses you still have the other.....:cool: nice avitar...... :cheese:

Wait.. I currently am a proud owner of the Z-680 system and the Audigy 2 Platinum w/ EAX advanced HD, believe me, if you are getting the Audigy 2 Plat. Get the Z-680. Otherwise it is a waste of your money. Plus the only way to get DTS is via 6CH direct. Fiber optic audio is somewhat clearer but...

Meh Yeah, I was unsure if this had been posted before or what. I am late because I just reformatted my system after installing the crapalyst 3.9 drivers. Thank god Sapphire has an archive.....rolled back to CAT 3.7 :cheese:

Got's me wonna dem HEY! I got's me wonna dem, it is a blue LED version, very nice, very quiet, only one though, the rest are Antec quiet fans (low RPM)

For those of you ATI goers running the newest (and most likely unstable) CATALYST 3.8-3.9 drivers here is a cool little feature that ATI gladly added in. Go to your desktop properties ----> settings ----> advanced ----> 3D ----> OpenGL/D3D (either one works) ----> custom ----> SMARTSHADER >>...