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ive read them but why would i care they were using dx 8.1 drivers for the test meaning that it would run like shit. I dare valve to test a raedon 9800 pro with its dx 8.1 drivers and it would preform worst then the 5900 ultra i garuntee it

You ppl are missing my question i want to know where i can get a 5900 ultra for cheap

i could careless about sound

how can you even dare to say sucha thing their dx 9.0 drivers arent even out

o well whatever aslong as its a nvidia cause ive aklways had thier products and they have never failed me

Im looking at getting on of these for hl2 but doom 3 and deus ex 2 mainly. any ideas?

ypu being able to oc right out of the box really does suck ;( unlike you pentium ppl that pay twice just for a god danm name

nah maya kills it with their newest release of 5.0

but everyone knows that Alias' Maya has the best out there

one thing most ppl forget when comparing AMD's and inetls is that they do different ops/cycle. amds do 9 while pentiums do 6. meaning an AMD can be slower and stillg et the same preformance as a faster pentium cause its doing more at one time. This was why a few years ago AMD's just...

How it has everything actually more then what you would ever need. The fluid effects and fur are the best out there.

for game modeling they are basically the same but for effects and dynamics and fluids maya is where its at. Thats the only one i use is Maya 5.0 unlimitied i love being a student i got it for free