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I don't believe any release dates from Valve anymore. They didn't learn from the 1997 HL1 release disaster (1 year delay if you remember) and so their dates are worth nothing and should be ignored.

"One of the most anticipated games of the year, Half-Life, has had its release date set back from its original schedule. Expected to be released in November with the demo in mid-October of this year, Sierra pushed back the release date of its game to the first quarter of 1998. The demo should be...

@oldi1knoby: sure, no big deal

http://fs.arke.de/temp1/believe.jpg

Doom3... http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2003/20030924l.gif

just gimme the benchmark and the bink videos of the buggy racing against the flying alien and the city17 strider attack and I have something to chew on for 2 more months.

@Munro: nevermind, you edited your reply already

@Schmudi: Ja @Kschreck: It will not be on Steam, that's been confirmed by Gabe. But Bittorrent works fine, too.

E3 is over for a long time and it's been a while since the last Videos. I want to see the Strider in it's full 1024-res glory!

join now: http://fs.arke.de/temp1/believe.jpg

get over it, they did

Valve should just update their finger files. Faster, no html crap. id Software found that out a long time ago. 1. No release date - "when it's done" is enough 'till gold-status 2. Update your information status via finger files to keep your fans up-to-date. Dunno why Valve doesn't do the...

I always wanted to play it, wanted to find out what's inside those "city eating devices" and wanted to fight with striders (I love the Tripods saga). That's why I would have ordered via Steam to get it earlier.

more time for Vivendi to advertise, holiday sales are much higher than before that time (and if you release too early the game will be seen as "old"). It's a strange but it's a fact, that releasing a game during holiday will push your sales. Especially the "first week" sales.

gordon: HL1 was pushed a whole year if you remember... delays can range from 1-2 weeks to a full year and if you look at Duke Nukem 4ever even longer than that... But in this special case all looks to me like a marketing/distribution problem between Valves "I want to screw the retailers with...

I bet Vivendi just won in the big fight about distribution. Vivendi wanted the game to be a holiday title to get more money and they want it to be released before or same time like steam version. And I bet the last month was a hard fight between both and Vivendi finally won it.

@poseyjmac and Jasco: Yes, it's dissappointing. But you are both going too far. Telling Gabe how to kill himself and comparing this to murder is ridiculus.

@weerat: they just shouldn't have confirmed the 30. Sept. about 1 month ago at ECTS and told everybody there (even foreign press from France and Germany) that the release date is set, final, working and coming despite all those internet rumours. That was their fault. If they would have said "we...

Here it is quoted: ">Did Lombardi actually talk to IGN? >Or did you guys get this news from >that email floating around. Yep, we talked to Doug today. That's why the story says "Doug Lombardi, Valve Software's director of marketing, confirmed with us today that Valve has decided to...

I think this is the last big example, that they should not give a release date at all. id Software invented the "when it's done". Screwed this politics for Doom3 and told everyone 2003 at E3. Now they pushed to 2004. Valve couldn't give a correct release date after 5 years of developement even 1...