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the lighting's pretty good, but the shadows are overrated they completely black out any texture they fall on, no matter the backlighting they are RAZOR sharp, again no matter the backlighting for something so processor intensive, i expected something a little more realistic

ATI will use PCI express as well i'm sure, they wouldn't let Nvidia take all the glory

Hl2 has some dynamic shadows as well, and for the record, i've seen Doom 3 dynamic shadows, they aren't that great

don't worry, i'm running a 9800 Pro on 4x AGP, 8x AGP does nothing right now

remember, HL2 does not use a base form of Havok, Valve has played around with it and changed quite a few things in it

well, first of all, BF has built in ballistics, although not completely realistic, it does amount to leading, second of all, i'm on a 768 dsl connection, i NEVER experience lag actually, i don't see that many people complaining about BF at all

i've never experienced any of those things in BF

yeah, but DoD claims realism and when games try to portray a historical event and time, they should attempt to at least portray realism

DoD is more of a fragfest, it doesn't come close to simulating real life at all. Your running speed is too fast, your weapon too accurate to come close to simulation the drawn pitched out firefights that took place in WWII that required tactics like flanking and suppressive fire call of duty...

most games today have quite a clear difference between medium and high settings to me that even i notice when running through action sequences

was the extra z really necessary?

i said, R360, not RV360 like the post above said R = performance model RV = mainstream model that's assuming there is going to be a performance 360, because i haven't heard of one yet, just the RV360

the R360 will probably be something akin to the 4800 AGP 8x, a stop gap with little performance gains until the next generation comes along.

basically everthing alb said, minus Doom 3 and including Halo 2

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that's the Loki, which will be the NEXT generation of cards, the 9900 is basically a stop gap to make some money in the meantime

my dad thinks i break everything i touch, but he lets me do whatever i want to my computer anyway, though he likes to debate me on the usefulness of it all

i doubt it'll be much more effective than a 9800 Pro

the Abit NF7-S IS an Nforce2 board

if i were you, i'd go for a Dx9 card instead, even though it's a solid card, what's the point in getting a last generation card when it's time has already passed? my friend has a 9500 non pro and he is VERY happy with it, you can get them for about 120 bucks.